High end nexus phone

[cynics]

Oh my gosh. Do you not know how this even started? I never said the Nexus was the best. I am not arguing that it is the best. I am not arguing that it is the worst. Go back and read my other comments. All I am saying is that if people think the Nexus 4 is a flagship device, then it barely fits into that category.


You said "What else should LG and Google have done?" And this is one of them.


The vast majority of people also won't be looking into a developers phone. This is another thing LG and Google could have done to improve the Nexus 4.


So all features should go through you for approval?


Again, you asked what they could have done, and I simply told you something they could have done.

And the display doesn't even come calibrated. In order to make the display actually looking somewhat decent, you need to install a custom kernel. So this is another thing they should have done.


Well I think the Nexus 4 speaker sucks. So who do we go by, me or you? Or should the company just ask themselves if they can make it better. And if the answer is yes, they should do it. Simple as that.


Too bad that's not true at all. There is more to it than just performance. The Nexus 4 only has 1 heat sensor inside. This controls how fast the CPU and GPU can go as well as how fast the device can charge. So in addition to thermal throttling causing dropped frames in games, which IS noticeable, it will also significantly slow down charge time. If I am playing a hardware intensive 3D game for an hour while plugged in, it won't charge nearly as fast thanks to aggressive thermal throttling.



It has been reported in multiple places that the Nexus 4, thanks to only having 1 sensor, throttles performance sooner than other phones with the exact same CPU. And that causes dropped frames.


A better battery is something that won't make a difference? A better camera is something that won't make a difference? Allowing the user to quickly put in a fully charged battery whenever they want won't make a difference? Easily giving the user the ability to add storage space when they need it don't make a difference? Making images, movies, and text crisper won't make a difference? Allowing you to hear your movies and music better without headphones won't make a difference? Making your games play back smoother won't make a difference? What the **** is wrong with you?




Apparently you can't read:



Clearly I said that they were competitive at first. But that just didn't last longer. And hopefully you caught that I was exaggerating on the 3 weeks, but who knows. Maybe that flew over your head. A more accurate time line would be 3 months.


Apparently you think that the only difference between every phone is benchmarks. This may be news to you, but there are other things that makes phones stand out: resolution, battery, storage, camera, and overall smoothness.


I was never expecting anything. I can even quote myself where I say that I consider my Nexus 4 a flagship device, but only barely. There are too many things where it falls short when compared to other phones. Need me to re-quote myself on that too to make it easier on you?


No, in my world the Nexus 4 would have a battery that lasts an entire day without me having to charge it. In my world the camera wouldn't suck. In my world the speaker wouldn't suck. Apparently those are too much to ask for of what Google calls its "Flagship" device. Maybe you should wake up and see that this phone falls short in many areas.


Holy crap, you really don't understand. The only reason I brought all this up was because The iGentleman simply asked "What else should LG and Google have done?" And I simply answered with what they could have done. Is it a crime to you for answering someone's question?

Strausd, the nexus was never meant to be a flagship phone.

 

[The iGentleman]

You said "What else should LG and Google have done?" And this is one of them.

ACTUALLY I didn't say that....

The vast majority of people also won't be looking into a developers phone. This is another thing LG and Google could have done to improve the Nexus 4.

You actually have no idea who did or did not buy a Nexus 4. You are ASSUMING you know, but really you don't.

So all features should go through you for approval?

Actually that would be a question better pointed at you, since you seem to think you know best.

Again, you asked what they could have done, and I simply told you something they could have done.

Again...no I did not ask that at all...

And the display doesn't even come calibrated. In order to make the display actually looking somewhat decent, you need to install a custom kernel. So this is another thing they should have done.

Only in the wonderful world of message board nitpicking, done by those who THINK they are a tech guy. Funny how most people seem to think the screen looks quite nice...

Well I think the Nexus 4 speaker sucks. So who do we go by, me or you? Or should the company just ask themselves if they can make it better. And if the answer is yes, they should do it. Simple as that.

There is always something that can be done better. Nothing/nobody is perfect. That said, I have no issue with the speaker at all. *See above statement regarding message board people such as yourself*

Too bad that's not true at all. There is more to it than just performance. The Nexus 4 only has 1 heat sensor inside. This controls how fast the CPU and GPU can go as well as how fast the device can charge. So in addition to thermal throttling causing dropped frames in games, which IS noticeable, it will also significantly slow down charge time. If I am playing a hardware intensive 3D game for an hour while plugged in, it won't charge nearly as fast thanks to aggressive thermal throttling.

You have no idea what you're talking about. You are merely repeating more of that message board nonsense you've read. Every time a phone is released, this happens. There's always someone who thinks they know so much, and they go about spewing nonsense, and people such as yourself eat it right up and go regurgitate it elsewhere as fact.

It has been reported in multiple places that the Nexus 4, thanks to only having 1 sensor, throttles performance sooner than other phones with the exact same CPU. And that causes dropped frames.

..so in other words, you don't really have anything to specific to speak to...
lmao it's been reported multiple places? lol I seem to recall once upon a time it being reported in many of those same places, that a particular phone had a "grounding issue"...shortly after, a software update was released that fixed this so-called "grounding issue". *see above statement regarding not knowing what you are talking about*

A better battery is something that won't make a difference?

Did not say that either... Perhaps you should stick to what I actually said. Like I said, I would welcome a high capacity battery. That said, I easily make it through a full day now, so it wouldn't make a massive difference. It would be a welcome improvement (because you can never have too much battery), but that alone, I'd hardly call compelling...and the rest of the things you named are for the most part far from compelling. Furthermore, your reasoning behind most of it, is severely flawed.

A better camera is something that won't make a difference?

So the best two things you've got is better camera and larger battery? How profound...

Allowing the user to quickly put in a fully charged battery whenever they want won't make a difference?

In short, NO. The average person doesn't carry around a pocket full of batteries... That's just message board type people that do that sort of thing..

Easily giving the user the ability to add storage space when they need it don't make a difference?

Only to those that carry everything on their phone. To the average person? No.

Making images, movies, and text crisper won't make a difference?

Do you really think that full hd actually makes those things ostensibly "crisper" on a screen that isn't even 5"? If that's what you think, then you don't understand the relation between resolution and screen size. Allow me to help you understand. After a certain point, a screen has to be larger for there to be any sort of meaningful benefit of substantially increased resolution. This is why even though the iPhone 5 does not have an HD display, it still looks quite crisp. You're stuck in the message board spec sheet mentality.

Allowing you to hear your movies and music better without headphones won't make a difference? Making your games play back smoother won't make a difference?

You speak as if you cannot already hear your content clearly already (which you can). You speak as if games aren't already smooth (which they are). Sure, improvement is always welcome, but it wouldn't be anything substantial.

What the **** is wrong with you?

Temper temper....
Your response is nothing more than message board guy type thinking. Overall, the things you state would not add much of anything of value to most people. It is just something YOU would like for YOU. The average person doesn't care about removable batteries and isn't going to carry around batteries in their pockets. They aren't going to buy an external charger to charge the second battery, and make sure they remember to do it every day. The average person doesn't do that. That's something message board type guys do. The average person isn't concerned about how many heat sensors a phone has. All they are concerned about is, does it work well. If the answer to that is yes (which it is), then that's what matters. The average person doesn't care about which resolution is higher on a small screen, they just care about the screen looking nice. You're worried about spec sheets and benchmark bragging rights, but unfortunately, message board mentality does not translate into the real world.

Holy crap, you really don't understand. The only reason I brought all this up was because The iGentleman simply asked "What else should LG and Google have done?" And I simply answered with what they could have done. Is it a crime to you for answering someone's question?

No... I didn't..

 

[Tig Bitties]

There are only two Android phones with large batteries with great battery life. Motorola's MAXX, which they are the only ones making that type of battery so far. And the Note 2, but that's a huge phone, that can fit that 3100mAh sized battery inside. No room inside the Nexus 4 for the Note 2's huge battery.

Yes in a perfect world LG would license the MAXX battery tech from Motorola, but obviously that's not happening right now. So we got what we got. I get 5h On Screen Time with my Nexus 4, and total battery life, anywhere from 12 hours to 16 hours total on busy workdays. And more on light weekend use. I say the Nexus 4 for it's size offers pretty good battery life overall, better than the One X, and Galaxy S3.

Camera I agree, the N4 is not the best by any means, but it does the job for me. The best is the iPhone 5 camera. But again, we got what we got.

Keep in mind the Nexus 4 is $350 for an unlocked phone, off contract. No other phone in that price range even comes close to the same specs as the Nexus 4. Other phones with similar spec's are $650 - $700, twice the price.

 

[daveathall]

Granted, I haven't used it much for a couple of days (just under an hour on screen time) but, not being a power user, my Nexus 4 does me fine. I have Google Now switched on plus all the bells and whistles.

 

[jrswizzle]

Granted, I haven't used it much for a couple of days (just under an hour on screen time) but, not being a power user, my Nexus 4 does me fine. I have Google Now switched on plus all the bells and whistles.


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Me too....any issues I have with making it through the day will be rectified when my wireless charger gets here....I think I'll simply set it on my desk during the day (when I'm at work and generally not using my personal phone) and then pick it up and use it at night....

Generally I charge overnight, and will likely continue to charge my apple products this way (my iPad mini once every few days and my iPhone 5 once every day or two).

I always keep an extra cable (both lightning and micro-usb) in my bag and have both a wall plug and car charger as well in case I'm ever travelling and need to charge...

More battery life would be great, but I think a reason why battery tech moves so slow (at least compared to other areas of the mobile phone, say the screen quality) is because most people simply need the phone to last a day and then charge them overnight anyway. A cable isn't difficult to carry around in my bag....honestly I put them there and forget about them until I actually need them.

The other reason battery tech seemingly lags behind is because of all the power we're putting into these phones nowadays.....people expect to get higher powered processors, super dense high quality displays and still INCREASE battery life....when its a big enough feat to maintain the battery life from before with all the new drains on it.

I like my Nexus 4....it gets decent battery life, though not as good as my iPhone 5. I like vanilla android the best, and am looking forward to the next Nexus phone....upgrade is coming in September and I had planned on using it on the GS4 or HTC One....given the Nexus phone generally doesn't come to AT&T (though maybe the Motorola X phone will?) I may not have to worry about using my upgrade.....many options to pick from this year!

 

[daveathall]

Me too....any issues I have with making it through the day will be rectified when my wireless charger gets here....I think I'll simply set it on my desk during the day (when I'm at work and generally not using my personal phone) and then pick it up and use it at night....

Let us know what you think when it arrives please. I hope they hurry up and get it released to the rest of the world (well, being selfish, England at least. ) very soon.

many options to pick from this year!

I think this year will be a super year, and TBH, I think next year will be even better.