High Sierra 10.13.2 Broke Sleep

[OEMPT]

I have been running my 2010 Mac Pro 5.1 all original except for a ram upgrade to 64gb and changed the GPU to a Gigabyte RX 460 4gb.

I have been running this setup since Sierra with no problemas whatsoever.

With the most recent 10.13.2 update... it broke the sleep function what the heck apple ???!?!

I put the Mac in Sleep mode, the screens turn off as usual and it seems that the Mac Pro enters sleep mode, but not totally. The power light slowly blinks as usual, but all the fans stay on. To top it off... only with a hard shutdown allows me to boot it up back again.

Anyone else with the same problem? I suspect it may be graphics card related.. maybe they changed the drivers ?

 

[namethisfile]

Hi,

I also have the same exact issue as well. Sleep is broken. I don't remember it being like this in 10.3.1 and in Sierra since I have had the RX460 for a while.

I wonder if they did it on purpose to inconvenience us RX 460 owners since these cards aren't officially, official?

 

[dotnet]

The Mac Pro (like Chuck Norris) doesn't sleep – it waits.

(SCNR)

 

[namethisfile]

The Mac Pro (like Chuck Norris) doesn't sleep – it waits.

(SCNR)

it also doesn't unwait... or what do you call that state from waiting to acting? The cMP with RX460 doesn't do that, either.

So, I basically have a hackintosh now, which it isn't.

PS--And what does (SCNR) mean?

 

[AndreeOnline]

PS--And what does (SCNR) mean?

If you really want to know, entering those letters into your browser's search field and pressing enter gives you the answer within roughly 5 seconds (including time to switch to the browser and type it in). It's the first hit and the answer is already in the short description.

 

[namethisfile]

If you really want to know, entering those letters into your browser's search field and pressing enter gives you the answer within roughly 5 seconds (including time to switch to the browser and type it in). It's the first hit and the answer is already in the short description.

OGY

 

[zemaker]

Anyone try the upgrade with a RX 580?

 

[AndreeOnline]

OGY

I'm sorry. I don't know what that means. And contrary to *scnr* google doesn't explain it either.

 

[macpanzer]

If you really want to know, entering those letters into your browser's search field and pressing enter gives you the answer within roughly 5 seconds (including time to switch to the browser and type it in). It's the first hit and the answer is already in the short description.

South Carolina Department of Natural Resources is shown as the first search result. South Central Newfoundland Rescue as second for me.

Not all search engines are the same.

 

[Kris Kelvin]

Anyone try the upgrade with a RX 580?

My Mac Pro with a Sapphire RX 580 Nitro is affected as well. Not sure if it's the GPU or something else though (didn't try swapping GPUs yet).

Going to sleep results in screen off, pulsing light but no power down.
Waking from sleep is impossible (tried USB input, power button and network access). Mac stays at pulsing light until force-shutdown (holding power button for 5 seconds).

 

[jimithing1]

Have the Sapphire Pulse RX 580 and no issues here.

 

[namethisfile]

I'm sorry. I don't know what that means. And contrary to *scnr* google doesn't explain it either.

Oh, Got Ya!
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Have the Sapphire Pulse RX 580 and no issues here.

So sleep works in 10.3.2 with RX 580?

Sleep is broken on RX 460 with 10.3.2.... I have been using this RX 460 since Sierra and have been trouble-free until now.
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My Mac Pro with a Sapphire RX 580 Nitro is affected as well. Not sure if it's the GPU or something else though (didn't try swapping GPUs yet).

Going to sleep results in screen off, pulsing light but no power down.
Waking from sleep is impossible (tried USB input, power button and network access). Mac stays at pulsing light until force-shutdown (holding power button for 5 seconds).

Ok.

So, it looks like from initial response that Apple is clamping down on "non-official" or non-Sapphire Pulse RX580 cards in cMP's running 10.3.2????

If, that's the case, that's not good. Price for Sapphire Pulse is inappropriately high. Even, prices of RX580's with the 2 HDMI, 2DP and 1 DVI ports are higher than other models due to probably retailers knowing Mac ppl are buying them.

I wonder if other RX580 models besides Pulse have sleep working as normal in 10.3.2???

And/or, which models exactly now in the Polaris Lineup have sleep working normally in 10.3.2???

If, there is an RX 560 model that works in 10.3.2 correctly, I might try to get it since it's the most affordable one....

But, $300 for RX 580 on some models with the 2 HDMI ports or Sapphire Pulse for even higher is too much for me.

PS--, and if Sapphire Pulse RX 580 wasn't marked up enough, 10.3.2 just marked that thing up even higher!!! Oh, boy!

PSS--By 10.3.2 in my post, above, I meant 10.13.2.....

 

[jimithing1]

Oh, Got Ya!
[doublepost=1512667882][/doublepost]

So sleep works in 10.3.2 with RX 580?

Sleep is broken on RX 460 with 10.3.2.... I have been using this RX 460 since Sierra and have been trouble-free until now.

Well someone above posted that their RX 580 Nitro is affected. The RX 580 Pulse however is the card used in the Apple eGPU Developer Kit and is fully supported by the OS X.

 

[namethisfile]

Well someone above posted that their RX 580 Nitro is affected. The RX 580 Pulse however is the card used in the Apple eGPU Developer Kit and is fully supported by the OS X.

What about the Sapphire RX570 Pulse? It's cheaper. Is that card the same or "supported" as the RX 580 Pulse?

It also consumes less power, which is perfect for my need.

And, cheaper, if I didn't mention that already.

 

[jbarley]

Oh, Got Ya!
[doublepost=1512667882][/doublepost]

So sleep works in 10.3.2 with RX 580?

Sleep is broken on RX 460 with 10.3.2.... I have been using this RX 460 since Sierra and have been trouble-free until now.
[doublepost=1512668224][/doublepost]

Ok.

So, it looks like from initial response that Apple is clamping down on "non-official" or non-Sapphire Pulse RX580 cards in cMP's running 10.3.2????

If, that's the case, that's not good. Price for Sapphire Pulse is inappropriately high. Even, prices of RX580's with the 2 HDMI, 2DP and 1 DVI ports are higher than other models due to probably retailers knowing Mac ppl are buying them.

I wonder if other RX580 models besides Pulse have sleep working as normal in 10.3.2???

And/or, which models exactly now in the Polaris Lineup have sleep working normally in 10.3.2???

If, there is an RX 560 model that works in 10.3.2 correctly, I might try to get it since it's the most affordable one....

But, $300 for RX 580 on some models with the 2 HDMI ports or Sapphire Pulse for even higher is too much for me.

PS--, and if Sapphire Pulse RX 580 wasn't marked up enough, 10.3.2 just marked that thing up even higher!!! Oh, boy!

PSS--f**king, Apple!

You do realize that 10.3.2 is a very old version of OS X, Panther I believe.

 

[jimithing1]

What about the Sapphire RX570 Pulse? It's cheaper. Is that card the same or "supported" as the RX 580 Pulse?

It also consumes less power, which is perfect for my need.

And, cheaper, if I didn't mention that already.

No only the RX 580 Pulse

 

[namethisfile]

You do realize that 10.3.2 is a very old version of OS X, Panther I believe.

Oops. I meant, 10.13.2, obv.
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No only the RX 580 Pulse

Ok. How do you know?

 

[jimithing1]

Oops. I meant, 10.13.2, obv.
[doublepost=1512670770][/doublepost]

Ok. How do you know?

Because there are plenty of posts here in this forum explaining how the Sapphire Pulse RX580 8GB is supported since it is the same card used in the Apple eGPU Developer Kit.

 

[AndreeOnline]

South Carolina Department of Natural Resources is shown as the first search result. South Central Newfoundland Rescue as second for me.

Not all search engines are the same.

OK. I get the explanation as top hit by only searching for scnr. But it's probably a good idea to contextualise it by adding 'lingo' or 'slang'.

I'm guessing search results depend on geographical location and|or previous searches.

But look, I'm not trying to be internet police here...

 

[zemaker]

So has anyone tried the non Sapphire RX 580? Curious as I have a different brand 580.

 

[Kris Kelvin]

According to this:

"This is a bug Apple added [in 10.13.2] by fixing another bug of incorrect connector detection from VBIOS. In certain kexts (e.g. AMD9500Controller) they hardcoded 6 connectors as a total connector amount regardless of the number read from VBIOS. The consequences are black screen after wake and/or failure to sleep."
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So has anyone tried the non Sapphire RX 580?

Yes: My Sapphire RX 580 Nitro exhibits the same sleep problems under 10.13.2.
Too much noise in this thread.

 

[zemaker]

According to this:

"This is a bug Apple added [in 10.13.2] by fixing another bug of incorrect connector detection from VBIOS. In certain kexts (e.g. AMD9500Controller) they hardcoded 6 connectors as a total connector amount regardless of the number read from VBIOS. The consequences are black screen after wake and/or failure to sleep."
​

Yes: My Sapphire RX 580 Nitro exhibits the same sleep problems under 10.13.2.
Too much noise in this thread.

Well that's no good, they must have added this bug after the last Beta because this issue was not present before.

 

[Ih8reno]

Same here, sapphire rx 460 won't wake from sleep, have to force shut it down.

 

[William Payne]

I have no idea whats going on with you AMD guys. Could it be something to do with apple expecting these cards as eGPU's where sleep is less important via the card.

 

[zemaker]

I have no idea whats going on with you AMD guys. Could it be something to do with apple expecting these cards as eGPU's where sleep is less important via the card.

No, seems like Apple took the lazy way and hard coded something, and introduced this bug. See above.