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batting1000

macrumors 604
Sep 4, 2011
7,464
1,874
Florida
In addition to the features that were already there before like sending text messages, setting alarms, calling businesses (by saying their name), and other things...Google Now does other things, like check the traffic to your most likely next destination and shows you the travel time, traffic, and routes to get there. It does that automatically without you having to do anything. If you're waiting at a bus stop, Google Now will automatically tell you what time the next bus should arrive.

I'll leave when I think I need to, don't need Google telling me. I can always check the internet beforehand for any accidents if I'm that worried.

When your favorite team is playing, Google Now will update you with the score of the game, automatically.

The SportsCenter app does this.


If you have an appointment scheduled, Google Now will check the time it will take to get there (with current traffic), and notify you of when you should leave. Again, it does this automatically. Voice searching is just a piece of the puzzle.

I know when I have to leave, why do I need Google telling me?

[steps on crickets]

Nothing groundbreaking here.
 

nuckinfutz

macrumors 603
Jul 3, 2002
5,542
406
Middle Earth
In addition to the features that were already there before like sending text messages, setting alarms, calling businesses (by saying their name), and other things...Google Now does other things, like check the traffic to your most likely next destination and shows you the travel time, traffic, and routes to get there. It does that automatically without you having to do anything. If you're waiting at a bus stop, Google Now will automatically tell you what time the next bus should arrive. When your favorite team is playing, Google Now will update you with the score of the game, automatically. If you have an appointment scheduled, Google Now will check the time it will take to get there (with current traffic), and notify you of when you should leave. Again, it does this automatically. Voice searching is just a piece of the puzzle.

[steps on crickets]

That's ****ING AWESOME!!

but there's one problem...

I didn't ask for it. My "personal" philosophy is that my computer should keep the guessing to a minimum. I know what I want and when I want it and what I need is for the device i'm using to deliver my queries as quickly as possible and not cycles trying to guess what i'm going to need next.

For instance the traffic times sound really sexy...until I realized that every GPS i've owned from Tom Tom to Navigon have done a respectable job of estimating how long my trip is going to take.

Scores for games. ESPN has been chiming the score updates. Not an issue for me.

This does dovetail into my point about Google. They are a web company and thus they don't understand what it's like to support 3rd party developers. Apple's been doing it over 30 years and it shows.

Google presents a feature that's best handled by a sporting app or a GPS app and it's trumped as amazing but what it has really done is simply lessened the focus on the talents of Android developers who would likely deliver a better experience.

Much like Apple's approach to local Transit apps in Maps will likely prove to be a superior solution for all.
 

The iGentleman

macrumors 6502a
Jul 13, 2012
543
0
I'll leave when I think I need to, don't need Google telling me. I can always check the internet beforehand for any accidents if I'm that worried.
Manually having to check traffic and different routes is much more time consuming that having it already waiting for me when I pick up the phone. Besides, what if I have to be at work at 9:00am, my job is 30 minutes away, and there is a 20 minute delay on the highway? With your manual method, you'd have to hope you happened to check the traffic with enough time to spare to account for the delay. On the other hand, with it being done automatically, Google Now will notify of the change in traffic and tell you that you need to leave early. To try to deny the usefulness of this is a bit disingenuous at best.


The SportsCenter app does this.
So we're going to play this game now? There's always an app that you could do something else on. The point is it's all convergent, it's all in one device. It does this and several other things, without the need for ANY configuration. To attempt to devalue that is a bit disingenuous.

I know when I have to leave, why do I need Google telling me?Nothing groundbreaking here.
Perhaps you don't know what groundbreaking means. It hasn't been done before/innovative = groundbreaking. No app currently does the functions of Google Now, so yes by definition it is indeed groundbreaking. Let the agenda go, and give credit where credit is due. Google Now is useful even if you aren't actively using it, that's impressive.
 

batting1000

macrumors 604
Sep 4, 2011
7,464
1,874
Florida
Manually having to check traffic and different routes is much more time consuming that having it already waiting for me when I pick up the phone. Besides, what if I have to be at work at 9:00am, my job is 30 minutes away, and there is a 20 minute delay on the highway? With your manual method, you'd have to hope you happened to check the traffic with enough time to spare to account for the delay. On the other hand, with it being done automatically, Google Now will notify of the change in traffic and tell you that you need to leave early. To try to deny the usefulness of this is a bit disingenuous at best.



So we're going to play this game now? There's always an app that you could do something else on. The point is it's all convergent, it's all in one device. It does this and several other things, without the need for ANY configuration. To attempt to devalue that is a bit disingenuous.


Perhaps you don't know what groundbreaking means. It hasn't been done before/innovative = groundbreaking. No app currently does the functions of Google Now, so yes by definition it is indeed groundbreaking. Let the agenda go, and give credit where credit is due. Google Now is useful even if you aren't actively using it, that's impressive.

The fact that other apps, such as GPS apps and sporting apps as nuckinfutz said, can do what Google now does, proves it's nothing groundbreaking. Most GPS apps or even standalone GPS devices will tell you about traffic and delays and will offer alternate routes. Sure it's not all in one app but it performs the same functions. Same with the sports; once I add in my favorite teams, it will alert me automatically. I don't need to wait for it to learn my favorite sports or purposely search my teams so that it does learn them.
 

nuckinfutz

macrumors 603
Jul 3, 2002
5,542
406
Middle Earth
So we're going to play this game now? There's always an app that you could do something else on. The point is it's all convergent, it's all in one device. It does this and several other things, without the need for ANY configuration. To attempt to devalue that is a bit disingenuous.


Perhaps you don't know what groundbreaking means. It hasn't been done before/innovative = groundbreaking. No app currently does the functions of Google Now, so yes by definition it is indeed groundbreaking. Let the agenda go, and give credit where credit is due. Google Now is useful even if you aren't actively using it, that's impressive.

By and large apps from 3rd parties will do a better job and likely be more accurate to boot.

Google Now sounds like Google's way of getting your buy-in to let them data mine you some more.
 

The iGentleman

macrumors 6502a
Jul 13, 2012
543
0
That's ****ING AWESOME!!

but there's one problem...

I didn't ask for it. My "personal" philosophy is that my computer should keep the guessing to a minimum. I know what I want and when I want it and what I need is for the device i'm using to deliver my queries as quickly as possible and not cycles trying to guess what i'm going to need next.
Don't want to use it? Don't use it. Nobody's forcing you to use it. However, that still doesn't change the fact that it is quite useful.

For instance the traffic times sound really sexy...until I realized that every GPS i've owned from Tom Tom to Navigon have done a respectable job of estimating how long my trip is going to take.
Problem is your GPS doesn't warn you ahead of time when you're still in the house that you need to leave early because there is a delay on your route.

Scores for games. ESPN has been chiming the score updates. Not an issue for me.
So now you're adding in having to use a GPS, and now the ESPN app too. Anything else you want to add in that you'll need to use? The idea is convergence. You're talking about having to have extra devices and run other apps, whereas with Google Now, I don't have to do anything at all. It does it all for me, automatically. BIG difference.

This does dovetail into my point about Google. They are a web company and thus they don't understand what it's like to support 3rd party developers. Apple's been doing it over 30 years and it shows.

Google presents a feature that's best handled by a sporting app or a GPS app and it's trumped as amazing but what it has really done is simply lessened the focus on the talents of Android developers who would likely deliver a better experience.
If a person would rather use an app to get the same information, they can. However, you seem to be contending that Google just shouldn't make this type of software at all because it takes "focus" away from developers. I'm sorry but that whole logic is asinine. It makes no sense to purposely withhold features so someone else can make it.

Much like Apple's approach to local Transit apps in Maps will likely prove to be a superior solution for all.
That's quite an assumption to make there, especially considering that Apples Maps app currently is well behind Google Maps.

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By and large apps from 3rd parties will do a better job and likely be more accurate to boot.

Google Now sounds like Google's way of getting your buy-in to let them data mine you some more.

Actually, the information presented in Google Now is a culmination of the information Google already has from you using their services (remember that privacy policy change? ;) ). Google Now just makes that information they have on you useful for you in your everyday life.
 

The iGentleman

macrumors 6502a
Jul 13, 2012
543
0
ACTUALLY, if he's in the UK it would be spelled favour.... :eek:

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You kind of leave me hanging by saying "That's quite an assumption." and fail to explain your sarcasm.

It wasn't sarcasm.... Furthermore, I've already explained what the assumption was. I suggest you go back and read what was written, as I very clearly quoted what your assumption was. In the meantime, I'm moving on.
 

AQUADock

macrumors 65816
Mar 20, 2011
1,049
37
In addition to the features that were already there before like sending text messages, setting alarms, calling businesses (by saying their name), and other things...Google Now does other things, like check the traffic to your most likely next destination and shows you the travel time, traffic, and routes to get there. It does that automatically without you having to do anything. If you're waiting at a bus stop, Google Now will automatically tell you what time the next bus should arrive. When your favorite team is playing, Google Now will update you with the score of the game, automatically. If you have an appointment scheduled, Google Now will check the time it will take to get there (with current traffic), and notify you of when you should leave. Again, it does this automatically. Voice searching is just a piece of the puzzle.

[steps on crickets]
So does it tell you out loud at random or does it show you a notification? If its the former thats annoying.
 

Judas1

macrumors 6502a
Aug 4, 2011
794
42
So does it tell you out loud at random or does it show you a notification? If its the former thats annoying.
From my understanding, it shows a notification. And if you happen to have a phone with led notification lights, it will light that up. Sounds pretty great.
 

tekno

macrumors 6502a
Oct 15, 2011
840
4
I also think Siri is a bit rubbish, but in fairness, the lady in the video ignored the times Google got it wrong.

First time she asked about some sporting event, the Android tablet didn't show anything. At least Siri offered to show a nice picture of a stallion.

When she asked "What's better, iOS6 or Jelly Bean", the Android tablet searched for "Who's better I was 6 jelly bean". Although, Google did offer results that matched the question.
 

Certinfy

macrumors 6502a
Jan 29, 2011
933
0
London
Siri was always a useless piece of **** to me. After actually buying into all the hype and buying an iPhone 4S ages ago now I've realised why I made a relatively big mistake and how overrated this phone really is. Siri for me is turned off as it's just annoying and ever since I've got my SGS3 I haven't even touched my 4S much either. What's worse is how **** iOS6 is looking, complete joke of an update I think.
 

matttye

macrumors 601
Mar 25, 2009
4,957
32
Lincoln, England
That's ****ING AWESOME!!

but there's one problem...

I didn't ask for it. My "personal" philosophy is that my computer should keep the guessing to a minimum. I know what I want and when I want it and what I need is for the device i'm using to deliver my queries as quickly as possible and not cycles trying to guess what i'm going to need next.

For instance the traffic times sound really sexy...until I realized that every GPS i've owned from Tom Tom to Navigon have done a respectable job of estimating how long my trip is going to take.

Scores for games. ESPN has been chiming the score updates. Not an issue for me.

This does dovetail into my point about Google. They are a web company and thus they don't understand what it's like to support 3rd party developers. Apple's been doing it over 30 years and it shows.

Google presents a feature that's best handled by a sporting app or a GPS app and it's trumped as amazing but what it has really done is simply lessened the focus on the talents of Android developers who would likely deliver a better experience.

Much like Apple's approach to local Transit apps in Maps will likely prove to be a superior solution for all.

A few things.

1. If you want fast answers to queries, look no further than Google voice search. It's significantly faster than Siri and it performs a normal Web search without asking you if it can't find the answer elsewhere.

2. Features built in by the manufacturer so they can fully integrate with the OS is always better than a third party app. For example; you can use Siri to play your local music tracks by voice, but not your spotify ones.

I'm kinda pissed with Android for a few reasons atm but Google voice search obliterates Siri.
 

beamer8912

macrumors 65816
May 30, 2009
1,137
3
If that's all you think it does, then you don't fully understand what it is.

Just commenting on the results of the video. Everything just came up with a google search result. I assumed she was demonstrating what we should expect when we use the feature. No?

By the looks of the rest of the thread this seems really important to you, considering how defensive you are.
 
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