Home DIY Project Picture Thread: Big and Small

[Acorn]

i understand the value of do it yourself. however there is a difference when installing electrical which is not ok and must be certified. especially regarding electrical outlets. My parents have talked to the house insurance company for this specifically before because we have an old house. Im not just guessing.

it was not my intention to start a heated discussion or argument.

I will leave it at that. I feel i expressed my point and concern.

 

[zwodubber]

This is not entirely true. The people that are installing do not have to be certified. As long as code is maintained, there is nothing within the code that states the person needs to carry a specific certification to install (and an individual is allowed to work on their own dwellings, although this is not the case with renters). The certifications are there only to prove that someone has passed a test certifying that they know what they are doing. If they are charging they must have the certs in most regions, as a protection for the owners only, but if a friend is helping no law exists that they must have a cert only if they are charging as a business.

This is true, as long as everything is up to code it does not matter who installs it. However, if you do it yourself (or a friend does it) and something goes wrong you are liable. If you paid an electrician or contractor do it and something goes wrong you will have records of the installation and can make them liable.

is why Lowe's, Home Depot, and other home improvement places do so well as it is not against the law for do it yourself, and if the extension code is rated fro in wall use, then it is not against code to run such a cord (although you would be hard pressed to find one that meets that cert). Also, most people don't even realize the same applies to low voltage as well, and most installers don't use in wall approved hdmi and audi connect cables for TV mounts (I have inspected lots and they have no coding for in wall). Unless you are getting inspected most would never know this and will never care, you are trusting that the installer follows code, just because they are certified.

All in wall low voltage wiring must be at least CL2 or sometimes CL3 rated (depending on location) including speaker, hdmi, etc.

 

[fhall1]

its not an extension cord, the outlet and the wall hole is only a foot from each other



i rent, i dont own...some landlords give permission some dont, mine does, fire codes are different from state to state

Fire codes may differ, but I don't think you're going to find any state that lets you plaster a power cord into the wall like that. Others have already told you why it's a bad idea. 99% of the time - nothing will happen....you don't want to be that 1%. I'm not sure if you're in a multi-unit apartment building or single family house, but if it's a multi-unit how would you feel if one of your plastered in cords got hot, started a fire, and burned everyone out of house and home (not even saying it killed someone that couldn't get out)?

Since you've re-plastered that shelf multiple times now, cut a hole in it and mount a proper box....as Mike Holmes says "make it right the first time".

 

[The Afroman]

Fire codes may differ, but I don't think you're going to find any state that lets you plaster a power cord into the wall like that. Others have already told you why it's a bad idea. 99% of the time - nothing will happen....you don't want to be that 1%. I'm not sure if you're in a multi-unit apartment building or single family house, but if it's a multi-unit how would you feel if one of your plastered in cords got hot, started a fire, and burned everyone out of house and home (not even saying it killed someone that couldn't get out)?

Since you've re-plastered that shelf multiple times now, cut a hole in it and mount a proper box....as Mike Holmes says "make it right the first time".

Freaking love Mike Holmes. If he saw this DiY he would flip his ****. Seriously though, i wanted to comment on this when you posted it.. and i was beaten to it. Cords in walls are bad like that. you need to get a box installed.

Hope the install go well.

 

[GoCubsGo]

I don't think so, at least to make people aware that they exist and codes exist regarding through wall mounting, as it is so popular these days.



I don't see how this is really applicable as there is no guarantee that either following or not following codes offers any substantial protection. Codes very so much by area and age of dwelling that unless this was a specific discussion of codes in your area, there is little that would guarantee the codes even apply to a specific situation. What wasn't mentioned is that extension cords can be mounted through the wall if they are tested for such mounts and in specific cases, if mounted in proper conduit don't even need that specific coding. This type of discussion in a public forum as directed by a non-certified inspector or installer is worth exactly what we paid for it.

I completely understand. I merely thanked the person who mentioned it and made a comment about the fact that a tenant poked a large hole in a wall for a gaming console. I'm no more qualified to discuss fire code than most DIYers and I never, not even barely, presented myself as such.

your funny...smh

It's you're and I am. Thank you.

 

[squeakr]

This is true, as long as everything is up to code it does not matter who installs it. However, if you do it yourself (or a friend does it) and something goes wrong you are liable. If you paid an electrician or contractor do it and something goes wrong you will have records of the installation and can make them liable.



All in wall low voltage wiring must be at least CL2 or sometimes CL3 rated (depending on location) including speaker, hdmi, etc.

FIrst, Of course you would be liable. I never intended it to read that you wouldn't, just that it is allowed as the other poster was stating that only certified personnel could install and that is incorrect, they are technically the only ones allowed to charge for it, but anyone can and as stated they assume the liability.

As for the ratings that is correct. I reread what I posted and it read that as if they didn't exist what it should have read like was that those I have inspected haven't had the proper rated cabling in use. It does exist they just didn't use it.

 

[partyBoy]

 

[kolax]

I thought that was a fish tank at first.

 

[partyBoy]

i cut my 'lack' table from ikea to 15"x15"
so it can fit the little space that i have next to my bed
will also be spray painting it as well, dont know what color yet,maybe a metallic color? or maybe i was thinking to add a mosaic type of upgrade to it, ill be posting the final pic after im done...

 

[Firestar]

You might want to paint a second coat on the right part.

 

[Acorn]

You might want to paint a second coat on the right part.

maybe. if i zoom in it more or less looks like a reflection from a window.

 

[kooskoos1814]

DIY Macbook Desktop Stand :

Made with an old piece from a DVD-writer box which was laying aroud for a long time

Less classy than a BookArc, but hell, it's free !