How do YOU pronounce "Read Receipts"?

[toobravetosave]

That’s not how rhymes work. You’re describing assonance.

thank you I didn’t know the word for this phenomenon

 

[BLtheP]

"Reed" receipts...which is how it was pronounced during the WWDC event the feature was announced in.

Exactly why I always pronounced it this way.

 

[jagolden]

Worked with email for a long time...I've always said reed receipts and have heard it said as reed receipts....as in "did the person reed my email?"

Or, has the person red your email?

 

[timsutcliffe]

"Reed" receipts...which is how it was pronounced during the WWDC event the feature was announced in.

I think I'd say 'reed' too.

Thanks for posting this - great to watch a little bit of the old keynotes.

 

[Wowfunhappy]

How is it translated in other languages?

Edit: Derp, I should read the thread before posting, sorry.

 

[flobach]

You're all wrong, it's pronounced Jason.

I thought it was JIF? ;-)

 

[dumastudetto]

Riyad Res-cept-eetsaaa

 

[dfj74]

can you justify the grammar and tell us why?

Yes.
"Read receipt" has two words. Receipt is obviously a noun, and read is a modifier to that noun, it gives a quality of it, in other words, that's what an adjective does, so it is an adjective. The way verbs provide the functionality of adjectives is via the past participle form. For example, spoken word, boiled egg, tempered glass, driven person, half-eaten biscuit, etc... You wouldn't say "boil egg" or "speak word". Thus, the form of "read" being used is that of "I have _read_" (past participle, pronounced RED).

Now, for "Read receipt", if you pronounce read as REED, you're using the verbal imperative form (i.e. you're giving an order to read something?). But that's not what it is, 'read' is not functioning as a verb. That is why you can say 'enable read receipts' (enable = verb, read receipts = direct object, read = adjective/past participle, receipts = noun).

Now, I have never pronounced this, or even thought of this, and I don't like it. Also, english is not my native language, so I have a high degree of tolerance for weirdness in the way the language works. But in this case, even if just for once, the grammar is perfectly clear!

PS: former resident of Reading, UK. Pronounced REDDING (yes, really)

 

[smirking]

I thought it was JIF? ;-)

Can we split the difference and say it’s Jiffson?

Or maybe it’s Joff.

 

[dfj74]

It doesn't make grammatical sense either way because you aren't receiving the "read" (regardless of pronunciation), and "read" also doesn't refer to the receipt being read.

Yes, you are receiving a receipt. Read refers to the type of receipt (it's an adjective). Like a read book (vs. an unread book). I have read this email. The email is read (RED).

Do you pronounce "Delete read emails" as Delete READ emails, or Delete RED emails?

 

[toobravetosave]

Yes.
"Read receipt" has two words. Receipt is obviously a noun, and read is a modifier to that noun, it gives a quality of it, in other words, that's what an adjective does, so it is an adjective. The way verbs provide the functionality of adjectives is via the past participle form. For example, spoken word, boiled egg, tempered glass, driven person, half-eaten biscuit, etc... You wouldn't say "boil egg" or "speak word". Thus, the form of "read" being used is that of "I have _read_" (past participle, pronounced RED).

Now, for "Read receipt", if you pronounce read as REED, you're using the verbal imperative form (i.e. you're giving an order to read something?). But that's not what it is, 'read' is not functioning as a verb. That is why you can say 'enable read receipts' (enable = verb, read receipts = direct object, read = adjective/past participle, receipts = noun).

Now, I have never pronounced this, or even thought of this, and I don't like it. Also, english is not my native language, so I have a high degree of tolerance for weirdness in the way the language works. But in this case, even if just for once, the grammar is perfectly clear!

PS: former resident of Reading, UK. Pronounced REDDING (yes, really)

Funny enough it is often non native speakers who have the most technically proficient grammar because y’all actually have to learn the language whereas native speakers are taught only the most basics and assumed to fill in the gaps themselves. At least that’s how it is in America unless you take special electives or are attending the rare quality institution.

Thank you for the explanation

 

[klasma]

Yes, you are receiving a receipt. Read refers to the type of receipt (it's an adjective). Like a read book (vs. an unread book). I have read this email. The email is read (RED).

Do you pronounce "Delete read emails" as Delete READ emails, or Delete RED emails?

The difference is that in “read email”, “read” refers to the email, whereas in “read receipt“, “read” doesn’t refer to the receipt. That’s why the latter doesn’t make particular grammatical sense (regardless of pronunciation).

 

[adrianlondon]

Yep - that's why it's a "shopping receipt" and not a "shopped receipt".

 

[VisceralRealist]

Yes.
"Read receipt" has two words. Receipt is obviously a noun, and read is a modifier to that noun, it gives a quality of it, in other words, that's what an adjective does, so it is an adjective. The way verbs provide the functionality of adjectives is via the past participle form. For example, spoken word, boiled egg, tempered glass, driven person, half-eaten biscuit, etc... You wouldn't say "boil egg" or "speak word". Thus, the form of "read" being used is that of "I have _read_" (past participle, pronounced RED).

Now, for "Read receipt", if you pronounce read as REED, you're using the verbal imperative form (i.e. you're giving an order to read something?). But that's not what it is, 'read' is not functioning as a verb. That is why you can say 'enable read receipts' (enable = verb, read receipts = direct object, read = adjective/past participle, receipts = noun).

Now, I have never pronounced this, or even thought of this, and I don't like it. Also, english is not my native language, so I have a high degree of tolerance for weirdness in the way the language works. But in this case, even if just for once, the grammar is perfectly clear!

PS: former resident of Reading, UK. Pronounced REDDING (yes, really)

The issue with this is that “read” can also be a noun. English is quite flexible with parts of speech and turning verbs into nouns and vice versa. “Read” can be a noun meaning “an act of reading”, as in “this book was a quick read” or “I’ll give it a read later”, and nouns can modify other nouns, like in the phrase “computer case”. Ultimately “read receipt” is a compound noun, with “read” either being a noun meaning “a reading” or a verb in its bare infinitive form, like in the phrases “cheat sheet” or “run time”.

This isn’t to say that interpreting it as a past participle and saying “red receipt” is wrong, just that “reed receipt” isn’t wrong either and this is why.

 

[nicho]

Yep - that's why it's a "shopping receipt" and not a "shopped receipt".

Shouldn't it then be a reading receipt?

Given the different translations in different languages, I'm fairly convinced that this feature is named by convention rather than solid principles of logic or grammar by anyone involved in implementing it at Apple.

 

[GrayFlannel]

Read receipt = red receipt

If it meant “reed” then marking something as “not read” is saying “not reed”?

 

[Fred Zed]

How does one pronounce the word “film” is it pronounced as filem? 😂

 

[DeltaMac]

No
(nover realized there would be so many web links showing how to pronounce "film")
Search Google for "Show pronunciation for the word film"
(seems that American English pronounces it differently from UK english.. So, it will depend on what your local language is...

 

[JRoDDz]

Reed. Did the recipient read "reed" your email?

 

[adrianlondon]

Reed. Did the recipient read "reed" your email?

To be fair, the system has no idea.

It only knows the email was opened, or "right click mark as read (red!)". it's still pronounced "reed receipt" though 😜