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Point is Apple has a whole range of cutting edge and previous generation phones available. All of which run the same apps and offer roughly comparable performance. The biggest differences in Cameras and onboard AM. But the X does so at a much higher price point.

Outside of this forum most people just want a phone that works and don't care about the specs... just the price. The X is most definitely priced as a premium product compared to the rest of Apple's lineup.

Yes I agree with all that but I’m just saying that buying an X doesn’t define any financial stability by any means. It’s only a $1000 and if that means financial stability then I don’t know what to think for people like that.
 
Yes I agree with all that but I’m just saying that buying an X doesn’t define any financial stability by any means. It’s only a $1000 and if that means financial stability then I don’t know what to think for people like that.

I think @DeepIn2U misspoke by saying "financial stability" or maybe not. I think the appropriate term is disposable income. A Median income family of 4 is less likely to get an iPhone X yet alone 2,3 or 4. Where someone from Upper middle class wouldn't think twice about cost. Those with more privilege are less likely to see it as such.

iPhones are certainly a designator of status. In fact a female friend of mine just the other day commented how her recent date was using an iPhone 3G/s. So, she certainly noticed and probably™ assessed his ability to proved based on that and a few other indicators. I don't want to get into what kind of a person that might make someone who does that. That's besides the point and shouldn't be debated. The point is people notice and DO care.
 
Yes I agree with all that but I’m just saying that buying an X doesn’t define any financial stability by any means. It’s only a $1000 and if that means financial stability then I don’t know what to think for people like that.

There are some that believe who have the latest or most expensive iPhone, defines your overall wealth. It does not. A mobile phone is something that can be financed and used by those who can't even afford their payments on a monthly basis. By no means does a smart phone define anyone's wealth or status in society.

And for those who actually believe an iPhone determines somebody's wealth, then they don't have a logical understanding of monetary investments or finances.
 
The heck with the X and all modern cell phones. Just like 'old school' vinyl (LPs) are the new status symbol retro cell phones are making a come back too baby. You want STATUS and a larger than iPhone Plus? I'm rocking a Plus, Plus, Plus, Plus... Everyone just stares in disbelief and envy as they see me walking down the boulevard using my Moto. You are just a 1 in 30 million clone and I'm truly a one of a kind status KINGPIN.

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The heck with the X and all modern cell phones. Just like 'old school' vinyl (LPs) are the new status symbol retro cell phones are making a come back too baby. You want STATUS and a larger than iPhone Plus? I'm rocking a Plus, Plus, Plus, Plus... Everyone just stares in disbelief and envy as they see me walking down the boulevard using my Moto. You are just a 1 in 30 million clone and I'm truly a one of a kind status KINGPIN.

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I think @DeepIn2U misspoke by saying "financial stability" or maybe not. I think the appropriate term is disposable income. A Median income family of 4 is less likely to get an iPhone X yet alone 2,3 or 4. Where someone from Upper middle class wouldn't think twice about cost. Those with more privilege are less likely to see it as such.

iPhones are certainly a designator of status. In fact a female friend of mine just the other day commented how her recent date was using an iPhone 3G/s. So, she certainly noticed and probably assessed his ability to proved based on that and a few other indicators. I don't want to get into what kind of a person that might make someone who does that. That's besides the point and shouldn't be debated. The point is people notice and DO care.

With that 3GS, could it also be said that the person just didn’t care about smartphones?! Of course without knowing him in person it’s difficult to say but I just don’t understand how a cheap smartphone is taken that seriously?! I mean, I understand if someone rolls in on a rolls Royce or Lamborghini but a damn iPhone?! Seriously?!
 
It's 29 million out of 7 thousand million. That's less than 0.04% or, in other words 99.6% of the population doesn't have an iphone x.
 
The reality is that pretty much everyone can afford an iPhone X, there are so many other options without spending over £999+ in one go, I’m not sure there’s many adults out there that work full time and want an iPhone X but genuinely can’t afford it.

The people I know who have one are Apple fans, they’re not people who were due a new phone and decided in the store to take an X, they’re people who watched the keynote and preordered for launch day
 
Apple products have always been “status symbols”.

Seriously. Who gives a flying fig role. I use my device for me. Screw what anyone else thinks of me.
Statements, arguably [about being a ‘liberal creative professional’ traditionally, and nowadays more a ‘trendy businessperson’ or ‘student’ :D] I think status symbols are genuinely exclusive things, like £250,000 cars, £1,000,000+ properties, £50,000 watches, private jets, an art collection, antique family heirloom jewellery, hundreds of acres of land, a title... ok we’re getting into the intangible with that but the point stands...
 
Have you seen the fit and finish of the materials? I haven’t seen jewelry that gets even close to the precision of the iPhone X. The materials are luxurious, the brand is perceived as premium. The price is one of the highest in its category.

It isn’t just expensive, physically it looks and feels expensive, and competitors don’t come close. Add to that the weight that the brand carries. Just take a look at the flagship Apple stores.

Look, I’m not saying that you give up your Rolex and your gold for an iPhone... but as a phone it is way above average in physical fit and finish, more similar to jewelry than to a phone.
 
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Have you seen the fit and finish of the materials? I haven’t seen jewelry that gets even close to the precision of the iPhone X. The materials are luxurious, the brand is perceived as premium. The price is one of the highest in its category.

It isn’t just expensive, physically it looks and feels expensive, and competitors don’t come close. Add to that the weight that the brand carries. Just take a look at the flagship Apple stores.

Look, I’m not saying that you give up your Rolex and your gold for an iPhone... but as a phone it is way above average in physical fit and finish, more similar to jewelry than to a phone.

I’m sorry, can’t agree with that comment of the competition not coming close. From pure look stand point, the flagship galaxy devices are at least equal if not better than the iPhone X.
 
LOL! I really don't care if my iPhone X is considered a "status symbol" or an item of which to be jealous....I didn't buy it for other people's appreciation, consideration and possible envy, I bought it for my own use and enjoyment. I love the thing, it is just great, fitting into my lifestyle very well and doing what I need it to do. End of story......

This exactly - Yesterday on the bus I had a look at what other people were using (and none of them were flaunting their phones), I saw another X, some Samsungs and what looked like an iPhone 5 or maybe 5s. It really doesn't matter what phone you are using as long as you like it.

I had my 8 for a couple of months, really enjoyed it but decided I wanted an X as well. So those are my 2 phones, the 8 is really a backup device now.
 
Perhaps if you are 15 years old, no job and no income and you carry an iPhone X around your peer group you will seem to be hot ****

But for the rest of us, a phone is a phone is a phone these days. They all do virtually the same things, calls/text/email/pics/music and all have the same apps available Youtube/Facebook/Instagram/Snapchat/Messages or Whatsapp etc. Some have personal preferences like a small SE size or a large Note or Plus size. Some prefer colors and naked, others prefer cases. But it is all the same.

And the differences in cost are honestly trivial and minimal, and certainly not enough to define wealth, financial stability, disposable income or anything else. Seriously, the difference in a free giveaway phone by the carriers and the iPhone X is $1000. Really? $1000 is the difference between rich and wealthy and poor and destitute? The difference is even slimmer when you consider the phones most are buying. To say the 8 Plus is for the poorer class and the X is for the rich upper crust and somehow a status symbol at a difference of $200? Again, if you are 15 with no income that might be something to brag about to your peers, but honestly, I have more than that in cash in my pocket right now. I must be one rich bastard.
 
I beg to differ.

If you have a circle of friends that use iOS especially if you're attracted to your sexual preference then yes that WILL matter.

Status Symbol is in the pricing:
over $1000 retail anywhere in the first few months means you have the financial stability to purchase it without affecting your daily lifestyle. For those seeking a life long mate ... financial stability IS a HUGE check box that is sought after, and ranks higher than phsyical attributes and up there with personality.

Sad I know because financial stability can change for a LOT of people over a short period of time. But that's the world we've been living in since the 1990's ... or longer. Smartphones, Cars, and your home is usually a better view than jewelry which is easily faked.

Nearly all Flagship phones cost $600 or more. Personally, I wouldn’t say that one has more “status” or financial stability for shelling out an additional $400 on a purchase that most people make every two years.

And if anyone is making decisions on whom to marry based on that, then...well, see my first post.
 
I’m sorry, can’t agree with that comment of the competition not coming close. From pure look stand point, the flagship galaxy devices are at least equal if not better than the iPhone X.

Yeah but the galaxy doesn’t carry the brand Apple carries.

Samsung makes cars, construction equipment and fridges... not very glamorous.

Apple, on the other hand, makes almost every design worthy of being in a museum.
 
Nearly all Flagship phones cost $600 or more. Personally, I wouldn’t say that one has more “status” or financial stability for shelling out an additional $400 on a purchase that most people make every two years.

And if anyone is making decisions on whom to marry based on that, then...well, see my first post.

Your straw man is implying that any decision making is based solely on this data point. It would be one of many observations people make on a daily basis. This isn't magic or make believe. Everyone does it to some degree... from choosing who to sit next to on the bus to who or who hire after a job interview. I once saw a candidate get passed over because of his choice in tie color. So yes, when people are observing the whole package things like premium accessories do get factored in.
 
Yeah but the galaxy doesn’t carry the brand Apple carries.

Samsung makes cars, construction equipment and fridges... not very glamorous.

Apple, on the other hand, makes almost every design worthy of being in a museum.

A Note 8 and an iPhone X cost the same and are equally easy to get.

Even if you believe that the iPhone X comes form a better brand, how does ones choice to get one over the other imply status?
 
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I saw a homeless man using an iPhone X. This was during the launch week.
For about 40 bucks a month anyone can own an iPhone X or whatever phone. Ever since Apple introduced iPhone Upgrade Program. It has lost its value.

That "homeless" gig isn't automatically as bad as perceived. Sometimes, it's a fake... and not just for drugs or alcohol. The income is tax-free, it's all about location-location-location, no degree or degree debt required, no dry cleaning bill (in fact, it's probably better if you DON'T clean the uniform), etc.

I once saw a woman with a child begging for money just outside of a Walmart. I went in and purchased whatever I was purchasing. I was leaving at the end of her day and saw her walk across the lot, hop into a Mercedes (no joke) and drive away.

With all due sympathies to those who are really homeless, there are a subset of scammers who play this as a game too. Do a search for "fake homeless guy caught" and watch a dazzling number of videos on this topic.
 
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