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If you're the mop man at McDonald's and you are cleaning up around a table of 6 people and 5 of them have iPhone 3GS's and 4's and 5's and 1 of them has an iPhone X you're making a quick judgement of those people and you are very impressed with the owner of the iPhone X, you assume he has more money and is more successful than the others.

If you're a CEO hosting a meeting where your 10 summer interns are presenting their accomplishments and are pitching for the 1 full time position you have open, the one with the high-end iPhone stands out as "sophisticated", "worldly", and "polished" and has an advantage over the others with their shabby Android's and cracked-screen iPhone 6's.
Yeah, in many situations that doesn't really happen.
 
In the US, where 0% financing is available through both Apple and the major carriers, all you need is good credit.

By the way, good credit isn't a given, almost 35% of the population has no credit or credit so bad they can't get a credit card at all. Talk about a status symbol. The ability to not worry about getting credit or making on-time payments is a big one. So having an iPhone X is not only telling the world you have money and only want the best, it's also telling the world you are very healthy financially.

Again, it's all about context. If you're in high school you think it's perfectly acceptable to have a cracked mobile screen and a popsocket. f you're a college student, you think everyone knows about Android. If you're well-off with a good job and a good credit rating, you think everyone else has one too. If you're a 40+ successful senior executive it would be career suicide to be seen with an old iPhone in a ratty case.
 
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You can't look at the price and make that determination; you have to look at it in context.

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If you're a CEO hosting a meeting where your 10 summer interns are presenting their accomplishments and are pitching for the 1 full time position you have open, the one with the high-end iPhone stands out as "sophisticated", "worldly", and "polished" and has an advantage over the others with their shabby Android's and cracked-screen iPhone 6's.

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I would rather think that a CEO would be more interested in the creativity, work ethic, clear indications of genuine ambition and accomplishments presented by the ten summer interns who are all hoping to get the one full-time position that is available than in whatever smartphone the summer associate or intern has been using..... In the end, aren't the results of someone's actual work product and signs of the potential to be a high achiever more significant?
 
By the way, good credit isn't a given, almost 35% of the population has no credit or credit so bad they can't get a credit card at all. Talk about a status symbol. The ability to not worry about getting credit or making on-time payments is a big one. So having an iPhone X is not only telling the world you have money and only want the best, it's also telling the world you are very healthy financially.

Again, it's all about context. If you're in high school you think it's perfectly acceptable to have a cracked mobile screen and a popsocket. f you're a college student, you think everyone knows about Android. If you're well-off with a good job and a good credit rating, you think everyone else has one too. If you're a 40+ successful senior executive it would be career suicide to be seen with an old iPhone in a ratty case.

I agree with you about good credit. I’ve been on both sides, so I know the hurts of having bad credit and the privilege afforded when your credit is spotless. It’s a financial goal many should strive for and seek to maintain when able. Too many people underestimate the importance of having good credit and what it means in our current economy.

As for the rest, I think that’s just a different way of stating what I said before. If your social circle says the iPhone X or any iPhone is a status symbol, then yes, it can be. In general, it’s not really.
 
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I would rather think that a CEO would be more interested in the creativity, work ethic, clear indications of genuine ambition and accomplishments presented by the ten summer interns who are all hoping to get the one full-time position that is available than in whatever smartphone the summer associate or intern has been using..... In the end, aren't the results of someone's actual work product and signs of the potential to be a high achiever more significant?

You would certainly think so. I think real CEO’s do look for those qualities over superficial nonsense as being good at the job is far more important than whether they own an iPhone or not. Unless of course you are the store manager of a phone shop lol.
 
You don't have to be wealthy to own an X. You just have to have good credit.

You don't even need "Good credit". There are a lot of iPhone owners would likely have subpar credit with the iPhone X. The large majority of iPhone owners finance their phones through carriers, which there are those who are approved who likely cannot afford the iPhone X based just on their credit score alone.
 
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You don't even need "Good credit". There are a lot of iPhone owners would likely have subpar credit with the iPhone X. The large majority of iPhone owners finance their phones through carriers, which there are those who are approved who likely cannot afford the iPhone X based just on their credit score alone.

It might be different in the States but you have to be credit checked by carriers in the UK. A lot of people get others to sign up in name though.
 
It might be different in the States but you have to be credit checked by carriers in the UK. A lot of people get others to sign up in name though.

You do have to apply for credit in order to finance an iPhone through carriers in the US, however; it seems the "Credit requirements" are rather lenient and there are those who barely have adequate credit, let alone the income to even afford the iPhone X, yet some struggle to even pay their monthly invoice to their carrier.
 
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By the way, good credit isn't a given, almost 35% of the population has no credit or credit so bad they can't get a credit card at all. Talk about a status symbol. The ability to not worry about getting credit or making on-time payments is a big one. So having an iPhone X is not only telling the world you have money and only want the best, it's also telling the world you are very healthy financially.

Again, it's all about context. If you're in high school you think it's perfectly acceptable to have a cracked mobile screen and a popsocket. f you're a college student, you think everyone knows about Android. If you're well-off with a good job and a good credit rating, you think everyone else has one too. If you're a 40+ successful senior executive it would be career suicide to be seen with an old iPhone in a ratty case.
"Career suicide".

You are dominating. I don't agree with much of what you're on about, but the entertainment factor's 10/10.
 
You can't look at the price and make that determination; you have to look at it in context.

If you're the mop man at McDonald's and you are cleaning up around a table of 6 people and 5 of them have iPhone 3GS's and 4's and 5's and 1 of them has an iPhone X you're making a quick judgement of those people and you are very impressed with the owner of the iPhone X, you assume he has more money and is more successful than the others.

If you're a CEO hosting a meeting where your 10 summer interns are presenting their accomplishments and are pitching for the 1 full time position you have open, the one with the high-end iPhone stands out as "sophisticated", "worldly", and "polished" and has an advantage over the others with their shabby Android's and cracked-screen iPhone 6's.

A $1,500 iPhone X is certainly "wealth" when its out in the real world surrounded by crappy old smartphones. Visit a college campus. Visit a Starbucks.

Anyone who sees $1500 as wealth doesn't know wealth.
 
It's about disposable income. The X isn't anything special over an 8. It has virtually the same specs and runs the same apps but can cost $400 more. The same way the Edition Apple Watch... It doesn't do more over a sport version but can cost several hundred dollars more.

To be fair the bezel less experience and OLED-display are enough for me to buy a X over an 8. I mean when I go back to my 7 all I can think about is how ****ing bad the display is compared to the X.
 
To be fair the bezel less experience and OLED-display are enough for me to buy a X over an 8. I mean when I go back to my 7 all I can think about is how ****ing bad the display is compared to the X.

I don't get that feeling when looking at the displays of my 8 and X; both are good.
 
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If you're a 40+ successful senior executive it would be career suicide to be seen with an old iPhone in a ratty case.

LOL, the last 2 companies I worked for in IT, our department issued phones to our executives and completely set them up for them. They honestly have no clue about the phones, how to operate them and repeatedly forget their passwords. They are busy running the business successfully and don't give a rat's ass about the phone other than it reliably makes calls and receives email.
 
I don't get that feeling when looking at the displays of my 8 and X; both are good.

Heard that more, maybe if you really use them side by side it's different because you're used to seeing both screens a lot but for me it's like 90% iPhone X usage and then 10% iPhone 7.
 
LOL, the last 2 companies I worked for in IT, our department issued phones to our executives and completely set them up for them. They honestly have no clue about the phones, how to operate them and repeatedly forget their passwords. They are busy running the business successfully and don't give a rat's ass about the phone other than it reliably makes calls and receives email.

I was reading this thread without being logged in and then I logged in just to give a thumb up for this comment. Very true.
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It's about perception, not monthly price. Look at it like this, a 2014 S Class can be bought for about 30,000. A loaded 2018 Camry is about the same price. If both person drove into your driveway, wouldn't you assume the S Class owner is more wealthy? If you don't think so then don't you think majority of the population would think the S Class owner is more wealthy?

A 30k S Class will be a relatively affordable monthly payment. Same applies for the X.

You're giving the general population too much credit. When they see an X they don't see 40 dollars a month payment. The see "he/she got a 1000 phone". When the general public see a 2014 S class, they don't see a 30k car, but a 120k car.
Please show me this 2014 last-gen S-Class for $30k and I’ll be the first to buy it :O
 
It's not a status symbol, most people don't need to show off what stuff they have, i didn't buy the iPhone X because i wanted a status symbol i'm comfortable enough within myself and the amount of money i have to not need to show off or have a status symbol.

I don't look down on anyone for what phone or stuff they have, it doesn't make them any less or any better of a person.
 
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I was reading this thread without being logged in and then I logged in just to give a thumb up for this comment. Very true.
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Please show me this 2014 last-gen S-Class for $30k and I’ll be the first to buy it :O
So before I posted that comment I searched Craigslist and the first post came up was this 2014.
https://miami.craigslist.org/mdc/cto/d/2014-mercedes-benz-class-550/6447379640.html

I didn't look through the pics though lol. I just did and saw the issues. However, the technical details doesn't matter. Imo I'd someone drove up in a 2007 S class for 15-20k and another in a 30k 2018 Camry. Many people are going to think the S Class costed the owner more and is more wealthy.
 
So before I posted that comment I searched Craigslist and the first post came up was this 2014.
https://miami.craigslist.org/mdc/cto/d/2014-mercedes-benz-class-550/6447379640.html

I didn't look through the pics though lol. I just did and saw the issues. However, the technical details doesn't matter. Imo I'd someone drove up in a 2007 S class for 15-20k and another in a 30k 2018 Camry. Many people are going to think the S Class costed the owner more and is more wealthy.

Actually, when I see people with expensive things (cars, houses, etc.) I don't immediately think they are wealthy
Honestly, the first thought that comes to me is that they are deep in debt and leveraged to max (true or not)
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
 
Actually, when I see people with expensive things (cars, houses, etc.) I don't immediately think they are wealthy
Honestly, the first thought that comes to me is that they are deep in debt and leveraged to max (true or not)
¯\_(ツ)_/¯

And are incredibly insecure. There's a guy that works with me, makes ~60k/year (in SoCal this is peanuts) but he drives a new Lexus of some sort (leased) and has 5+ Rolex watches. He is huge into fashion (wears expensive suits and clothes). I saw where he lived a few months back and it's a shack that doesn't look suitable for living. He has his 2 kids and stay at home wife in that shack. At least he looks pretty, has nice toys, and feels awesome while at work. He has been in the same position/job for a decade at least.
 
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