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Radon87000

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Nov 29, 2013
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Clearly logic seems to be taking a backseat as usual. The point is that there isn't necessrily some widespread underlying issue, not that some people might not be experiencing an issue or some issues that might be causing something. It really isn't that hard at all.
You can't be serious?If you follow the iPhone design threads,if there is one thing both fans and haters agree on its that the iPhone should be thicker with more battery life.The average seems to be 5 hours which is pathetic
 

oMc

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Oct 17, 2010
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Finland & France
You can't be serious?If you follow the iPhone design threads,if there is one thing both fans and haters agree on its that the iPhone should be thicker with more battery life.The average seems to be 5 hours which is pathetic

Stop saying BS please... The average battery life of an iPhone 6 or 6s is not 5 hours lol.

Plus looking at this post where you say that your phone can't last more than 3 hours while your screenshot is showing 5h30 of usage time and 14h of idle time, I sincerely doubt about your math skills.
 
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TorontoSS

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Nov 9, 2009
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My battery is draining and I have a 6s. I believe it specifically is draining when I am using safari. When I say draining, I mean a few min takes off 3-5%.
When I'm not using safari it's fine.
 

krishmk

macrumors 6502
Feb 11, 2010
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My battery is draining and I have a 6s. I believe it specifically is draining when I am using safari. When I say draining, I mean a few min takes off 3-5%.
When I'm not using safari it's fine.
Same thing happened to me on 6. I had to restore from my back up and it is still draining, overnight unused.
 

Radon87000

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Nov 29, 2013
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Stop saying BS please... The average battery life of an iPhone 6 or 6s is not 5 hours lol.

Plus looking at this post where you say that your phone can't last more than 3 hours while your screenshot is showing 5h30 of usage time and 14h of idle time, I sincerely doubt about your math skills.
You clearly don't follow my posts as I clearly stated that that battery time was with light usage

And now that I have an Apple Watch consistently connected to my iPhone,it's plugged in at least 4 times a day
 

TorontoSS

macrumors 65816
Nov 9, 2009
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Yes - in fact it dropped a whole 12% in just 7 min. I'm on the phone and on safari.
That's really really bad battery.
 

nomugs

macrumors member
Sep 9, 2014
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Yep I'm finding really horrible battery. :S I can be texting and literally watch the % drop a few points just from sending a text or two.
 

the1payday

macrumors 6502
Jun 19, 2007
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Amarillo, TX
I think the battery on the iPhone 6/6S have been absolutely terrible since the day the 6 launched. I have to charge my phone (usually at about 30%) at least twice a day.
 

adamhenry

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Jan 1, 2015
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On the Beach
You clearly don't follow my posts as I clearly stated that that battery time was with light usage

And now that I have an Apple Watch consistently connected to my iPhone,it's plugged in at least 4 times a day

Utter nonsense. You better get your phone to the Apple store for a checkup. I have an AW as well and my phone goes days without being plugged in. Don't you get tired if dreaming up your fiction?
 
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newellj

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Oct 15, 2014
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East of Eden
I have a 6 (not 6S) on 8.4.1 and another that's configured the same on 9.3.1 (was 9.3). I am experiencing no difference between the two phones on standby or in actual use.
 

cableguy84

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Sep 7, 2015
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Having used it for 2 weeks (?) i would say im seeing slightly worse battery life

6s plus
 

C DM

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Oct 17, 2011
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You can't be serious?If you follow the iPhone design threads,if there is one thing both fans and haters agree on its that the iPhone should be thicker with more battery life.The average seems to be 5 hours which is pathetic
People wanting a larger battery doesn't indicate some sort of a battery issue. I mean some deflections are really out there. We are taking about one thing and clearly when you can't seem to support what you are saying we move on to something else.

The average is above that if you actually follow iPhone battery stats threads feather than just selectively paying attention to threads about battery issues that some people are having with petty much any phone and/or any update.
 

Bswartz95

macrumors 6502a
Feb 3, 2011
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Cleveland , OH
I was never a person who complained about battery problems.
But since iOS 9.3.1 it's horrible for me... Really annoying
I'm with you. I don't visit this forum much. Rarely post. However, since the most recent update, my battery is getting destroyed in standby. No one app is using much either. It all started with the most recent update. I've never had battery issues with any other version (or any other iPhone). My usage hasn't changed. The only variable that's different is the OS update.

Just plugged my phone in at 12% and it's 4pm. Typical day usage, I could go to bed at 10pm with over 20% left.
 

iammike1

macrumors 6502a
Oct 25, 2007
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O'fallon IL
Some people see better, I think most see the same, and some are experiencing dramatically less life after 9.3. It's one thing when people see an extra 5% drop over a day...it's quite another when that drop, in my case anyway, is well over 30% more than usual in a single day even with the phone completely unused.

Yes I've restored with a backup. Yes I then restored and set up as a new phone. No these did not fix or change it. Problem started immediately after installing 9.3 and continued with 9.3.1.
 

Jaw3000

macrumors regular
Jan 6, 2004
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I'm with you. I don't visit this forum much. Rarely post. However, since the most recent update, my battery is getting destroyed in standby. No one app is using much either. It all started with the most recent update. I've never had battery issues with any other version (or any other iPhone). My usage hasn't changed. The only variable that's different is the OS update.

Just plugged my phone in at 12% and it's 4pm. Typical day usage, I could go to bed at 10pm with over 20% left.

I'm experiencing the exact same thing with my 6s Plus. I've lost at least 20-25% in standby compared to 9.2.1. I've done tests where I haven't used the phone at all - just unplugged it from a full charge and left it in standby - with all notifications, push and fetch, location, and background refresh turned off. After leaving it on standby for 57hrs, the battery drained to 62% and iOS's battery stats indicated 6hrs of "usage time." Again, I never used the phone during this period and everything was turned off. What is being counted as "usage" escapes me, but it seems something is running on 9.3 that wasn't on 9.2.1 that is having a tremendous negative effect on battery. Also, no apps indicated any usage since there wasn't any. When compared to a similar test I ran on 9.2.1, I had 84% battery after 58hrs and usage time only indicated 40min - and that was with mail fetching every hour! Huge difference of 22% and over 5:20 of fake "usage time." Both tests were run in the same location with network settings identical. As far as I know, there is no way to troubleshoot this on iOS to discover what is going on.

I downgraded back to 9.2.1 because of this. Unfortunately, my 6s Plus is now showing similar battery drain on 9.2.1 where it wasn't before the 9.3 update. I'm wondering whether 9.3 included firmware updates that altered the CPU frequency, battery controller, or something else and obviously was not rolled back during the 9.2.1 downgrade.
 
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Bladery

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Apr 12, 2015
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I'm with you. I don't visit this forum much. Rarely post. However, since the most recent update, my battery is getting destroyed in standby. No one app is using much either. It all started with the most recent update. I've never had battery issues with any other version (or any other iPhone). My usage hasn't changed. The only variable that's different is the OS update.

Just plugged my phone in at 12% and it's 4pm. Typical day usage, I could go to bed at 10pm with over 20% left.

Same here! Usually I had 20 to 30 % left but today I has to charge my phone already at 6pm!
 

adamhenry

macrumors 68000
Jan 1, 2015
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611
On the Beach
After leaving it on standby for 57hrs, the battery drained to 62% and iOS's battery stats indicated 6hrs of "usage time." Again, I never used the phone during this period and everything was turned off. What is being counted as "usage" escapes me, but it seems something is running on 9.3 that wasn't on 9.2.1 that is having a tremendous negative effect on battery. Also, no apps indicated any usage since there wasn't any.

I have this phantom usage time issue as well. It doesn't seem to be affecting my battery usage too negatively though.
 

Jaw3000

macrumors regular
Jan 6, 2004
144
57
I have this phantom usage time issue as well. It doesn't seem to be affecting my battery usage too negatively though.

I can only assume this phantom usage is a large portion of the problem. In my testing, I've seen my 6s Plus drop both 1% (normal) and 8% (excessive) over two hours of standby (no use). The only difference is the phantom usage. When iOS is acting normal (1% drain), the phantom usage goes up a small amount during this period - something like 40min to 44min. During excessive drains (8%), phantom usage shows an increase of over an hour - 40min to 1:55 for example. I see this without fail in my testing, and believe whatever is going on here has to be a major factor in the large 20-25% decrease in standby battery life I've experienced on 9.3. There may be other factors as well, such as firmware updates that altered CPU speeds or battery reporting, but this is a major observable issue.

Unfortunately, I don't believe there is any way to troubleshoot this or for anyone outside of Apple to determine what exactly is going on here - the logs and activity monitoring just don't exist in shipping versions of iOS.
 

saudor

macrumors 68000
Jul 18, 2011
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Some people see better, I think most see the same, and some are experiencing dramatically less life after 9.3. It's one thing when people see an extra 5% drop over a day...it's quite another when that drop, in my case anyway, is well over 30% more than usual in a single day even with the phone completely unused.

Yes I've restored with a backup. Yes I then restored and set up as a new phone. No these did not fix or change it. Problem started immediately after installing 9.3 and continued with 9.3.1.

when you are setting up as new phone, you cant "restore" anything to it. You're basically starting from scratch - brand new.
 

iammike1

macrumors 6502a
Oct 25, 2007
795
46
O'fallon IL
when you are setting up as new phone, you cant "restore" anything to it. You're basically starting from scratch - brand new.

Screen Shot 2016-04-04 at 5.54.11 PM.png
 

adamhenry

macrumors 68000
Jan 1, 2015
1,621
611
On the Beach
My 6s just keeps on racking up the phantom usage. I took my phone off the charger this morning (~8 hrs. ago). I haven't really used it since then and it is showing 7 hrs. 40min. of standby and 1 hr. 50min. of usage. The batt. is at 92%.
 

iammike1

macrumors 6502a
Oct 25, 2007
795
46
O'fallon IL
Right. Do you then put a backup onto it?

*sigh* No...hence "restored and setup as new phone".

You restore the OS..then it gives you the option to setup as a new phone once the restore is done. Selecting this sets the phone up like it just came out of the box.
 

Jaw3000

macrumors regular
Jan 6, 2004
144
57
Just a reminder that iOS counts many things as legitimate "usage" even if the device isn't being actively used. Things like push/fetching mail, iCloud syncing, incoming notifications and iMessages, background app refresh, location polling, and system activities like using location to calibrate the compass or set the time zone. The CPU time it takes to perform these functions while the device is in standby will be counted as "usage." Most, if not all of these, can be turned off in settings. The only way to accurately control as much as possible a standby drainage test is to turn off these variables.

This being said, there is obviously either a bug in greatly overstating "usage" in battery stats or in something within the system that is not user controllable running in the background during standby and thus draining the battery. The 20-25% extra drain on 9.3, along with the extreme phantom usage I and others are seeing, is not normal.
 
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