How is your experience with Monterey in compare to BigSur?

[MacGizmo]

Monterey is the first macOS beta I didn't install in years. I'm happy to say that I installed the final release on an Intel MBPro 16" on release day and haven't had any issues at all. In fact, it seems to have fixed the crash upon wake from sleep bug I had in BigSur.

Sounds very promising! So updating to Montery is almost better than updating to Big Sur (the latest)?

I have it on several machines and it appears to work fine. I didn't really have a bunch of issues with Big Sur, but I think Monterey is more optimized. YMMV.

 

[WeatherWeasel]

I ditched Backblaze only because the fix was go in and delete stuff and we know how that plays out. So I have iDrive. I also have that backing up when I am asleep and it can have a field day. Time Machine has settled down a lot since I got rid of Backblaze. I am disappointed that it went , maybe if I get a new computer next spring after Apple has their field day on what is new and why should I go into hock to buy it sale. I do notice, though with those apps that worked fine with Big Sur, are slower now on Monterey. I am guessing because they put the emphasis on their M1 chip and to force us to buy something with that chip.

 

[lysingur]

I upgraded yesterday after reading hoakley's blog. Even though he approves of macOS Monterey, I still had my doubts. But after testing it for the past 24 hours, I have to say that this is arguably the smoothest upgrading experience in recent memory. A few of the applications had already pushed out updates for Monterey prior to Oct 25th: 1Password, Bartender 4, Parallels Desktop, OmniFocus 3, Reeder, SoundSource, TinkerTool System, WaterMinder. Some were updated within 24 hours: Affinity Designer, Affinity Photo, Affinity Publisher, HazeOver, PopClip, Scrivener, Xcode, Zoom. DiskWarrior is also still working with my Time Machine backups.

Not a single game that I play wasn't working and AirPlay to Mac is buttery smooth.

Overall, this definitely feels like a refinement upgrade and has the potential to be another Snow Leopard if Apple manages to iron out minor bugs (and not introduces new ones with Universal Control).

So I'm an idiot. Should've listened to my own advice.

Despite all applications, including games, working, my computer started having kernel panics a little over 10 days ago. The culprit seems to be Chrome. Even when I managed to get my 500 tabs down to around 30, the kernel panic doesn't stop. Time Machine is a mess. My computer crashes so often that the SSD started to have errors that cannot be repaired even in Recovery Mode. I'm downgrading to Big Sur as I'm typing this.

Don't upgrade. You'll thoroughly regret it.

 

[ssmed]

So I'm an idiot. Should've listened to my own advice.

Despite all applications, including games, working, my computer started having kernel panics a little over 10 days ago. The culprit seems to be Chrome. Even when I managed to get my 500 tabs down to around 30, the kernel panic doesn't stop. Time Machine is a mess. My computer crashes so often that the SSD started to have errors that cannot be repaired even in Recovery Mode. I'm downgrading to Big Sur as I'm typing this.

Don't upgrade. You'll thoroughly regret it.

Which computer?

 

[metapunk2077fail]

No noticeable issues on MBP Max.

For a first release OS on a new generation computer it is remarkably good. Normally when a new OS comes out on a new system there are teething problems, but those are not noticeable this time.

 

[VitoBotta]

It feels snappier for me too on M1 mini and 16" Intel MBP

 

[loekf]

Quality control zero. After the introduction and long beta, how can you screw up something basic as a stable Bluetooth connection to a Magic Mouse, Magic Trackpad en even built-in trackpads of Macbooks. Did the intern write the HID drivers ?

 

[5425642]

macOS 12.1 (beta 3) is very stable for me on my MacBook Pro 14" I did use to run macOS Big Sur on my MacBook Pro 13" M1 and well let's just say it was buggy.

 

[lysingur]

Which computer?

2020 5K iMac

 

[ssmed]

2020 5K iMac

Disappointing!

 

[randolorian]

Rock solid on my 2017 iMac and 2019 16" MBP.

 

[lysingur]

Disappointing!

My iMac crashed again (but no kernel panic log was generated, so probably not a kernel panic). I did a clean install of macOS Big Sur and reinstalled all the programs. Basically, the computer is like what it was before I upgraded to macOS Monterey. So something must've changed.

Then I realized the only thing that's different is Time Machine. When I bought this iMac, I moved the external drive for Time Machine backups for my MacBook Pro directly to this desktop. It was HFS+ Encrypted. After I upgraded to macOS Monterey, First Aid in Disk Utility started detecting errors in the backups. Errors that even DiskWarrior can't fix. This never happened in Big Sur.

I then decided to start anew by reformatting the disk partition (AV Pro 2 partitioned into 3, wherein the partition for Time Machine). It's only when I tried to do that that I realized macOS Monterey (later on I found out in Big Sur too) no longer supports HFS+ Encrypted and even attempts to reformat whichever drive that you choose for Time Machine backup into APFS case-sensitive.

So it's very likely to be a Time Machine issue and not a macOS issue per se (since both Big Sur and Monterey cause crashes).

Some other observations:

1. After clean install to macOS Big Sur,
   1. there was no kernel panic or crash before I turned on Time Machine.
   2. Turning on "Put hard disks to sleep when possible" in Energy Saver settings had caused my eGPU to disconnect once on wake. I've since turned it off.
   3. the crash happened right after macOS attempts to wake up the external drive.
2. The external drive almost never stopped spinning after I turned on Time Machine. This applies to both Big Sur and Monterey.

There seems to be something deeply wrong with the new Time Machine mechanism and what has made the matter worse is you're no longer allowed to revert back to using HFS+ Encrypted within the same macOS. There are three possibilities I can think of that might cause the crashes/kernel panics:

1. APFS-formatted hard disk (the spinning variety, not SSD).
2. Time Machine + APFS causing either read/write errors or disk degradation.
3. AV Pro 2's hard disk has gone bad.

I've now turned off "Put hard disks to sleep when possible" in Energy Saver settings. If this still causes crashes, then I will attempt to reformat the Time Machine partition into HFS+ Encrypted on my MacBook Pro and report back.

 

[ssmed]

There seems to be something deeply wrong with the new Time Machine mechanism and what has made the matter worse is you're no longer allowed to revert back to using HFS+ Encrypted within the same macOS. There are three possibilities I can think of that might cause the crashes/kernel panics:

If you want an alternative I have been using carbon copy cloner for a long time with good outcomes.

 

[osculum_est_mortis]

I have noticed much better battery life with low power mode on , running 2017 MacBook Pro

 

[lysingur]

I've now turned off "Put hard disks to sleep when possible" in Energy Saver settings. If this still causes crashes, then I will attempt to reformat the Time Machine partition into HFS+ Encrypted on my MacBook Pro and report back.

Crashed again. Back to HFS+ Encrypted. Will report back again.

 

[Apple_Robert]

No problems here running the latest version of Monterey on my M1 MBA.

 

[5aga]

I was having weird issues saving and opening PDFs and some other minor issues that added up to a big headache. So I downgraded this past weekend.

 

[lysingur]

Crashed again. Back to HFS+ Encrypted. Will report back again.

Crashed again. Using terminal to check for bad sectors on the AV Pro 2 partition.