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No slow downs on my 12.9 Pro, but battery life is in the tank.

Do me a favor and let me know if you have this same issue.
  • IPP 12.9 G2 on 11.2.1 - Safari - Touch a link on a page. It takes 1,2,3,Menu Appears - generally takes 4-6 seconds for the submenu to open
  • IPP 12.9 G2 on 10.3.3 - Safari - Touch a link on a page. It takes 1,Menu Appears - generally takes 1-2 seconds for the submenu to open
Which do you experience? The 1-2 seconds or 4-6 seconds?
Thx!
 
Do me a favor and let me know if you have this same issue.
  • IPP 12.9 G2 on 11.2.1 - Safari - Touch a link on a page. It takes 1,2,3,Menu Appears - generally takes 4-6 seconds for the submenu to open
  • IPP 12.9 G2 on 10.3.3 - Safari - Touch a link on a page. It takes 1,Menu Appears - generally takes 1-2 seconds for the submenu to open
Which do you experience? The 1-2 seconds or 4-6 seconds?
Thx!
1-2 seconds
 
I just installed iOS 11.2.1 on an iPhone 6s and did not experience any slow downs. Camera launches in less than 2 seconds. Keyboard is responsive. Graphics apps animate just as smoothly. Etc. Same with a family member running 11.2.1 on an old iPhone 5s.

Is anyone else here NOT seeing a significant performance degradation after installing 11.2 on an old iPhone?

Reminds me of when the iPhone 4S came out, and having a 1.1 second to first-photo was a feature.

Now somehow, despite massive hardware improvements, we see ~2-3 seconds on the 5S, 6, and 6S.

Sad.

Go to 1:05:00 to see the keynote segment about camera app opening speeds:

 
Do me a favor and let me know if you have this same issue.
  • IPP 12.9 G2 on 11.2.1 - Safari - Touch a link on a page. It takes 1,2,3,Menu Appears - generally takes 4-6 seconds for the submenu to open
  • IPP 12.9 G2 on 10.3.3 - Safari - Touch a link on a page. It takes 1,Menu Appears - generally takes 1-2 seconds for the submenu to open
Which do you experience? The 1-2 seconds or 4-6 seconds?
Thx!

I just tested this on my iPad Pro 10.5 running iOS 11.2.1, and the submenu consistently appears in about 2 seconds, never 3 or longer (timed with my Apple Watch).
 
Is that bad?

iPhone 7 Plus, iPhone 6, iPad Pro 10.5
 

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Is that bad?

iPhone 7 Plus, iPhone 6, iPad Pro 10.5

Those numbers from some app may be meaningless. How fast does your device feel compared to when new? How about after a full charge? How about after a reboot? How about in Airplane mode? Or after a backup and restore?
 
I just installed iOS 11.2.1 on an iPhone 6s and did not experience any slow downs. Camera launches in less than 2 seconds. Keyboard is responsive. Graphics apps animate just as smoothly. Etc. Same with a family member running 11.2.1 on an old iPhone 5s.

Is anyone else here NOT seeing a significant performance degradation after installing 11.2 on an old iPhone?

By waiting until 11.2.1 to install 11, you avoided the performance plagued 11.0 and 11.1 releases. It was a good decision to wait.

I think when 12 comes out I'm going to wait too. Apple always seems to take until x.2 to get the performance problems properly squared away.
 
I just installed iOS 11.2.1 on an iPhone 6s and did not experience any slow downs. Camera launches in less than 2 seconds. Keyboard is responsive. Graphics apps animate just as smoothly. Etc. Same with a family member running 11.2.1 on an old iPhone 5s.

Is anyone else here NOT seeing a significant performance degradation after installing 11.2 on an old iPhone?

Do you really expect a everyone who owns an old iPhone to respond (or even .00000001% of them?)
 
iPhone 6 here. My 6 works just like the day I bought it and I plan on keeping it for another year. I may be a bit unusual in that I have always had nearly every battery-sucking setting disabled on my phone and don't use any social media or push accounts on the phone. After 4 years with original battery, I still easily get 2+ days out of my battery if necessary. I do charge every night though.
 
I find it to be inconsistent. One second my 6S plus is very snappy, the next things will be very choppy. I don’t know if it’s because of the battery thing or if it’s just buggy iOS 11.
 
My iPhone 6s with iOS 11.2 runs just fine in terms of performance. iOS 11.0 was laggy in places, for example, when using 3D Touch on homescreen, but no more.

I don’t really use the 6s anymore, but due to this slowdown ”scandal” I had to try it again, launching all apps in the home screen from a clean slate, doing another round etc. It’s fast. Probably still on par with pretty much all high end 2017 Androids in this kind of ”launch a bunch of apps and switch between them” test.

According to Coconut Battery, the battery is at 83% of original capacity with 625 cycles.

Throttling does kick in, I tested with Geekbench at various charge levels. At 60% I still got the same result a brand new 6s gets, at 40% I got 88, at 25% I got 70%. At this point it clearly starts to throttle more if needed, I got GB result down to 56% of a new phone pretty quickly when going down from 25% charge.

I don’t mind the throttling if it prevents shutdowns when the charge is low. However, s*itty communication from Apple. Just mention in battery settings that your battery is in poor health and performance may be degraded, consider replacing it and the whole ”scandal” would have been a no issue.

I don’t believe in planned obsolescence; why provide updates for nearly five years then, the longest in the industry? If something is ”planned obsolescence” it’s not providing the latest OS to pretty much any device released before 2016 (Android).
 
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Only ppl who use iphone 6s and up who doesn't feel slower, and ipad air 2 and up user who doesn’t feel slower on their devices.
 
My almost 20 months old iPhone 6s is doing great. But since I know they throttle iPhones I'm not confident anymore about my iPhone. I'm worried everyday when the day comes and my perfectly fine iPhone will slow down.
 
My almost 20 months old iPhone 6s is doing great. But since I know they throttle iPhones I'm not confident anymore about my iPhone. I'm worried everyday when the day comes and my perfectly fine iPhone will slow down.
In the alternative you can say you'd similarly be worried everyday that your perfectly fine iPhone will unexpectedly shut down (perhaps in the middle of you doing something or perhaps without you even realizing it and knowing about if for some time).
 
I don’t believe in planned obsolescence; why provide updates for nearly five years then, the longest in the industry? If something is ”planned obsolescence” it’s not providing the latest OS to pretty much any device released before 2016 (Android).

Regardless of whether it is true or if you believe it, that argument doesn't work.

The updates are what slows the device down. Phones don't just naturally become slow for no reason. My 4S and 5 on iOS 6 absolutely blow my iPhone 6 out of the water in terms of performance, despite it being several times more powerful.

The fact that the updates are permanent means once you update, you may be stuck with a slow device. That means you have no choice but to change phones if you want to restore performance.
 
Regardless of whether it is true or if you believe it, that argument doesn't work.

The updates are what slows the device down. Phones don't just naturally become slow for no reason. My 4S and 5 on iOS 6 absolutely blow my iPhone 6 out of the water in terms of performance, despite it being several times more powerful.

The fact that the updates are permanent means once you update, you may be stuck with a slow device. That means you have no choice but to change phones if you want to restore performance.
At the same time that doesn't mean that the reason is nothing other than a conspiracy based on malicious intent.
 
At the same time that doesn't mean that the reason is nothing other than a conspiracy based on malicious intent.

Okay? I didn't say it was -- hence...
Regardless of whether it is true or if you believe it, that argument doesn't work.

Having said that, it speaks volumes that Apple doesn't let people either try an update for a short period or allow them to revert back in any way.

This would go a long way to diminish obsolescence and to provide relief for people enduring bugs from updates with no choice but to live with them.
 
Okay? I didn't say it was -- hence...


Having said that, it speaks volumes that Apple doesn't let people either try an update for a short period or allow them to revert back in any way.

This would go a long way to diminish obsolescence and to provide relief for people enduring bugs from updates with no choice but to live with them.
You can’t diminish obsolescence. Without it consumers would be able to buy anything on the face of the earth.
 
You can’t diminish obsolescence. Without it consumers would be able to buy anything on the face of the earth.

What are you even talking about? Consumers can buy anything, if it's available (which it often is when it's in demand).

Some of you reply with the most out to lunch comments.
 
Okay? I didn't say it was -- hence...


Having said that, it speaks volumes that Apple doesn't let people either try an update for a short period or allow them to revert back in any way.

This would go a long way to diminish obsolescence and to provide relief for people enduring bugs from updates with no choice but to live with them.

Actually they do. Apple typically lets several weeks pass after a new iOS release before they stop signing the old version. This lets people revert if they have unexpected problems.

Apple stopped signing iOS 10 on October 4; iOS 11 was released on September 19th. That's plenty of time to find issues and revert.
 
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