How many do NOT experience slow downs from iOS 11?

[I7guy]

What are you even talking about? Consumers can buy anything, if it's available (which it often is when it's in demand).

Some of you reply with the most out to lunch comments.

What the heck are you even talking about? Do you understand the real purpose of “planned obsolescence” or are you just going to repeat the meme as it relates to Apple?

Talking about out to lunch comments.

 

[Altis]

What the heck are you even talking about? Do you understand the real purpose of “planned obsolescence” or are you just going to repeat the meme as it relates to Apple?

Talking about out to lunch comments.

Let's try this again. My post:

Okay? I didn't say it was -- hence...


Having said that, it speaks volumes that Apple doesn't let people either try an update for a short period or allow them to revert back in any way.

This would go a long way to diminish obsolescence and to provide relief for people enduring bugs from updates with no choice but to live with them.

Your reply:

You can’t diminish obsolescence. Without it consumers would be able to buy anything on the face of the earth.

What are you saying here, and how does it relate to what I said?

 

[Saskat]

Actually they do. Apple typically lets several weeks pass after a new iOS release before they stop signing the old version. This lets people revert if they have unexpected problems.

Apple stopped signing iOS 10 on October 4; iOS 11 was released on September 19th. That's plenty of time to find issues and revert.

I didn't know that. How do you do a revert in such case? Would the previous iOS be an option under the software update setting? Or do I need to do something in iTunes?

 

[now i see it]

iOS 10 = bigger emojis
iOS 11 = AR Kit

Really — was ruining a perfectly good iPhone (on iOS 9) worth that?

I'd think that everyone who's had iPhones ruined by newer OSes would have learned to stay away- yet most people keep on "downgrading" their phones to unusability with numerically higher OSes. Apple's favorite customers.

 

[JackieInCo]

I have 11.1.2 on my 6S+ and have no slowdowns. I did get a new battery put it in about a month ago. I was running 11 on it before I got the new battery and I think the speed was the same as it is with the new battery. If there was a slowdown, it was so minor that it was undetectable.

 

[0004986]

I didn't know that. How do you do a revert in such case? Would the previous iOS be an option under the software update setting? Or do I need to do something in iTunes?

Look up DFU restore. But "before you update" to the new version, be sure to take a backup using iTunes cuz that's the only way you can get your data back should you change your mind.

 

[firewood]

Thx ... bummer news. Even after factory resetting my IPP and installing manually, after a couple of weeks I still have the 4-6 seconds lwhen pulling up the submenu. Behavior is the same for links in email and messages.
Basically, cross the board.

Here's my current list of things to try to figure out the cause of a slow iOS device:

1. Have you rebooted your iPad recently? If that speeds things up, it could be because the OS was stuck running something in the background (e.g. a latent bug in iOS or one of your installed apps).
2. How full is your storage? More than 80%? Flash memory wear leveling algorithms can steal most of your memory cycles if you don't leave storage with around 20% or more free for long enough periods of time.
3. Have you checked in Settings under Battery Usage (after a slowdown) to see what's using your battery? Whatever is using up your battery could also be stealing CPU cycles.
4. If you have cellular data enabled, you might also check Cellular Data usage, including under Systems Services. Whatever is downloading data could also be stealing CPU or memory cycles.
5. Do you have a huge amount of iCloud or iMessage data or old Mail? Up and downloading all that data can steal a bunch of CPU and memory cycles.

That's just for starters. Apple has diagnostics that can search for even more potential issues.

 

[dk001]

Here's my current list of things to try to figure out the cause of a slow iOS device:

1. Have you rebooted your iPad recently? If that speeds things up, it could be because the OS was stuck running something in the background (e.g. a latent bug in iOS or one of your installed apps).
2. How full is your storage? More than 80%? Flash memory wear leveling algorithms can steal most of your memory cycles if you don't leave storage with around 20% or more free for long enough periods of time.
3. Have you checked in Settings under Battery Usage (after a slowdown) to see what's using your battery? Whatever is using up your battery could also be stealing CPU cycles.
4. If you have cellular data enabled, you might also check Cellular Data usage, including under Systems Services. Whatever is downloading data could also be stealing CPU or memory cycles.
5. Do you have a huge amount of iCloud or iMessage data or old Mail? Up and downloading all that data can steal a bunch of CPU and memory cycles.

That's just for starters. Apple has diagnostics that can search for even more potential issues.

1. Yes and no change noted in speed.
2. Pretty much empty. 222GB of 256GB available
3. Safari, Polymail, Messages, YouTube, Kindle, ... Nothing out of ordinary
4. Checked that - minimal - about 18 GB for the Month of Dec so far. Actually a bit under normal.
5. ICloud is generic 5GB account. Mostly empty. use Google Drive and Box. No abnormal activity. Even Google Photos

I have been through a lot looking for something I can pinpoint. The only significant difference between A and B is the iOS version. Like I said, when I hear folks say they have no issues, it drives me nuts when I use mine.

Thanks for the pointers.

 

[C DM]

iOS 10 = bigger emojis
iOS 11 = AR Kit

Really — was ruining a perfectly good iPhone (on iOS 9) worth that?

I'd think that everyone who's had iPhones ruined by newer OSes would have learned to stay away- yet most people keep on "downgrading" their phones to unusability with numerically higher OSes. Apple's favorite customers.

And then there are people who say that every new version ruins devices who also have said that iOS 10 improved things for them over iOS 9.

 

[firewood]

1. Yes and no change noted in speed.
2. Pretty much empty. 222GB of 256GB available
3. Safari, Polymail, Messages, YouTube, Kindle, ... Nothing out of ordinary
4. Checked that - minimal - about 18 GB for the Month of Dec so far. Actually a bit under normal.
5. ICloud is generic 5GB account. Mostly empty. use Google Drive and Box. No abnormal activity. Even Google Photos

I have been through a lot looking for something I can pinpoint. The only significant difference between A and B is the iOS version. Like I said, when I hear folks say they have no issues, it drives me nuts when I use mine.

Thanks for the pointers.

Did the lag appear immediately after the factory reset? Or did it appear over time? Gradually? Or suddenly?

0.5 GB per day is a non-trivial amount. Does the lag stay the same if you put the iPad in Airplane mode and wait a bit?

Thanks.

 

[dk001]

Did the lag appear immediately after the factory reset? Or did it appear over time? Gradually? Or suddenly?

0.5 GB per day is a non-trivial amount. Does the lag stay the same if you put the iPad in Airplane mode and wait a bit?

Thanks.

The lag is immediate. No change when in Airplane mode.

05. Avg ... some days more, some days less. Days with heavy video or documents tend to be higher. As most of that is “on demand” - downloads etc when I call for it. It is in chunks.

 

[firewood]

The lag is immediate. No change when in Airplane mode.

If that happened to any of my iPads, and nothing I could try changed that, I would schedule an appointment at a Genius bar and ask them to run, not just a battery test, but a full diagnostic. (Which may or may not help.) So far none of my 4 iPads show any such signs (yet?).

 

[dk001]

If that happened to any of my iPads, and nothing I could try changed that, I would schedule an appointment at a Genius bar and ask them to run, not just a battery test, but a full diagnostic. (Which may or may not help.) So far none of my 4 iPads show any such signs (yet?).

Done that. They found nothing wrong. The response was likely some that iOS 11 caused. That was 11.0. Hasn’t gotten any better with each update.

 

[firewood]

I have been through a lot looking for something I can pinpoint.

Here's one more diagnostic you can try. There are some apps in the App store that claim to measure storage (SSD, flash, or "disk") performance in the App store. Also network speed (upload, download, bandwidth) measuring apps. You might try one of those and see if it points out something unusual.

 

[dk001]

Here's one more diagnostic you can try. There are some apps in the App store that claim to measure storage (SSD, flash, or "disk") performance in the App store. Also network speed (upload, download, bandwidth) measuring apps. You might try one of those and see if it points out something unusual.

I have a couple on my iPhjone including SysSecInfo, not avail anymore but does some really good stuff.
See what I can finds that work well on lay IPP. I currently use SystemMonitor for basics on the IPP.

 

[firewood]

A few people are reporting that turning off iCloud and iMessage, and then doing a full reset and Setup as New got rid of UI lag. Maybe the UI lag has something to do with using or restoring old settings? Or an iCloud bug?

 

[0000757]

I haven't had any major issues with iOS 11, just some minor visual glitches. However, I'm on an iPhone 8+, so that could be why, though my 2017 iPad also runs just fine, other than minor bugs.

 

[dk001]

A few people are reporting that turning off iCloud and iMessage, and then doing a full reset and Setup an New got rid of UI lag. Maybe the UI lag has something to do with using or restoring old settings?

I did that on my 7+ as part of an Apple walkthrough to correct another issue (app/springboard crashes). It did help. The downside was reloading manually all the “crap” I needed on my device

 

[Radon87000]

And then there are people who say that every new version ruins devices who also have said that iOS 10 improved things for them over iOS 9.

Because iOS 9 was outright dreadful. I think we have reached the absolute rock bottom with iOS 11 so it wouldn’t be a surprise if iOS 12 improved things.

 

[C DM]

Because iOS 9 was outright dreadful. I think we have reached the absolute rock bottom with iOS 11 so it wouldn’t be a surprise if iOS 12 improved things.

So iOS 10 actually made things better, as I mentioned.

 

[lexvo]

My wife and I didn’t encounter any slowdowns with iOS 11 on our devices being an iPad Air, iPad Air 2, iPhone 5s, another iPhone 5s and an iPhone 6s.

 

[papbot]

Lagging animations, slow responses, stuck screens all on 2017 iPad Pro, iPhone 8 and 8 Plus, and on an iPhone 6 there are just too many issues to mention. This is on mine and my wife’s devices.

Having used every iPhone made and all iOSes this has been the worst experience for us.

As an example, many issues using the App Store. Just today I purchased an app using Touch ID. The purchase was successful and the download circle appeared. But it didn’t do anything, no rotation, just stuck there. I closed the App Store and the new app was on my home screen so it had been downloaded. On the App Store the stuck circle was still displayed. I had to force quit the App Store to get it to display “Open.” I see this frequently. The bugs are still rampant throughout this OS.

 

[sparksd]

An Air 2 and 10.5 iPP both running great on 11.2.1 here. There were glitches in early Beta versions I ran but 11.2.1 is running extremely well on my devices.

Edit: Apologies - just saw question is applicable to older phones, not iPads.

 

[Apple blogger]

I just installed iOS 11.2.1 on an iPhone 6s and did not experience any slow downs. Camera launches in less than 2 seconds. Keyboard is responsive. Graphics apps animate just as smoothly. Etc. Same with a family member running 11.2.1 on an old iPhone 5s.

Is anyone else here NOT seeing a significant performance degradation after installing 11.2 on an old iPhone?

I don’t. iPhone SE