Yeah they're still selling MacBook Airs with 8GB of non-upgradable RAM which is frankly outrageous.
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Interesting. Why the higher minimum for AS?
I’ve used Windows 10 devices with 4 GB and Macs with 4 GB not too long ago and the Macs were usable for basic stuff whereas in Windows 10 the experience was awful.
At 8 GB, Windows 10 was still not great, but my M1 MBA with 8 GB is a joy to use and super snappy even for more demanding tasks.
Phones available with 24GB of RAM: OnePlus Ace 2 Pro, RedMagic 8S Pro.
Phones available with 16GB of RAM: Samsung Galaxy S21 Ultra, OPPO Find X6 Pro, Asus ZenFone 10, Honor 90 and 90 Pro, Asus ROG Phone 7 and 7 Ultimate, Xiamo 13 Ultra, OnePlus 11...
Not sure which of these make your list of "regular premium phones".
In my experience, unless you go far back in time, the only computer OS that runs acceptably well with just 4GB is Linux.
Yup im currently using an 8gb M2 Mac mini as an interim machine while ordering a new studio and it’s a Nice peppy little machine…until ya try to do anything work on it. Editing one RAW image makes it choke.
The S23 Ultra comes with 8GB or 12GB. There is no 16GB option so why would anyone hunt down a 16GB S21 Ultra on the used market? The other phones you list aren't exactly household names are they? If Apple and Samsung don't offer phones with 16GB of RAM then they're not really happening for most folk.
That's where the spec sheet can help. The 6 Plus for instance with its paltry 1GB of RAM reloaded absolutely everything and gave me by far the worst user experience of any smartphone to date...
I am not using 6 plus. I upgraded from 7+ to 13 PM, when it was time. I am buying a phone, not spec sheet.
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6Gb-8Gb is more than sufficient esp. for the 'average' iPhone owner.
Why do users need or do that warrant more memory?
Certain apps, like Chrome, is a memory hog, but not many people use multiple webpages or use play games.
Isn't it up to developers to use memory management wisely for their apps?
I was just giving an example where Apple got it wrong. It pays to read the spec sheet because you can be burned sometimes. Apple are notorious for being stingy with RAM. Often they provide just enough but occasionally they release a device which is underspecced, like the 6 Plus. Having blind faith in Apple like you do is all well and good but how do you know what you're getting if you don't read the spec sheet?
Agreed. Any RAM question is by definition about some iPhone not here yet. The question is unanswerable because we do not know how much RAM the next version of iOS and apps will take good advantage of. And since RAM is not free, more is not better unless iOS/apps take advantage of it.
I still use a 6S, still pretty happy with it in terms of performance, and that thing apparently only has 2GB RAM…
Why do you whine about what minimum the base Mac buyers can choose to buy? The max available is what matters. Buy the RAM you will need over the life cycle of a new box.
Forcing granny with her email and K-12 admins with tight budgets to pay for extra RAM makes zero sense. Just order up what you need and stop whining. Apple gives us excellent RAM options now.
Grannys doing only email and K-12 sysadmins want maximum cheap and both can fit their work under 8 GB RAM. The K-12 is especially relevant because it is an entry point to Apple's ecosystem.
Apple really shafted the customers when they gave the 6, the large-screen iPhone everybody was waiting for, just 1GB of RAM. Genius move of planned obsolescence that nobody is talking about.
Devil's advocate here; hold my beer.
More RAM will increase the cost and therefore the price, but there's a lot more to it than what number would I like to see on a box.
What about the quality of the RAM? If Apple puts larger RAM capacities in that are clocked slower, is it less performant or not? Is it easier to make faster RAM modules that are small? Do larger RAM chips have a larger risk of potential data loss/corruption? I don't know, but it's worth thinking about. Could ECC RAM for a phone be a thing? Would that have a benefit?
Also, does more RAM consume less or more battery life? For instance, which eats battery more: paging things from storage to RAM and back or keeping it always alive in active RAM, with bigger RAM keeping even more stuff active? Does a 16 GB iPad Pro get the same battery life as an 8 GB model? Again, I don't know, but it's worth a look. A lot of old reporting on laptop battery life said more RAM would save you battery, but that was all based on spinning HDD being accessed less often. Does that logic still work with SSD storage? No one seems to be doing the work.
In the end, does more RAM lead to a better experience or just a larger number on a datasheet?
More RAM will increase the cost and therefore the price, but there's a lot more to it than what number would I like to see on a box.
What about the quality of the RAM? If Apple puts larger RAM capacities in that are clocked slower, is it less performant or not? Is it easier to make faster RAM modules that are small? Do larger RAM chips have a larger risk of potential data loss/corruption? I don't know, but it's worth thinking about. Could ECC RAM for a phone be a thing? Would that have a benefit?
Also, does more RAM consume less or more battery life? For instance, which eats battery more: paging things from storage to RAM and back or keeping it always alive in active RAM, with bigger RAM keeping even more stuff active? Does a 16 GB iPad Pro get the same battery life as an 8 GB model? Again, I don't know, but it's worth a look. A lot of old reporting on laptop battery life said more RAM would save you battery, but that was all based on spinning HDD being accessed less often. Does that logic still work with SSD storage? No one seems to be doing the work.
In the end, does more RAM lead to a better experience or just a larger number on a datasheet?
Buying the generations of the iPhone where the RAM was increased is a good strategy to have a device that lasts long.