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I have an iPhone 13 with 4GB and it's definitely not enough.
Certain apps will close even if I leave them for just a few seconds.
8GB would be better for now. But I expect even that will be too little in a couple years.
Certain apps will close even if I leave them for just a few seconds.
8GB would be better for now. But I expect even that will be too little in a couple years.
I don't think it has to do with pride. If all models had the same amount of RAM, then I'm sure that they wouldn't publish the number.
One reason I'd be happy to see Apple skimp on RAM is that it forces them to optimize the system to a greater degree, which will benefit those of us with older devices (my iPhone 11 has 4GB of RAM and I've never notice any issues related to lack of memory).
RAM is important when it comes to user experience, so those who care about user experience indirectly care about RAM.
I can absolutely see that we will need more RAM in the future, especially if we are going to run heavier apps.
If we look at iPad as an example it can now be hooked up properly to a second screen and be used as a workstation, that will require more RAM.
I expect to see the same with iPhone when USB-C is launched. Android have had this for years and I can only assume that Apple will offer the same thing with iPhone (desktop mode).
But, as far as I understand things more RAM generally means heavier battery usage and that we also have to dig deeper in our wallets. So I hope Apple figures out a sweet spot for most users and focus on offering more memory on Pro and Ultra models and compensate that with a bigger battery.
If I can work propely on a 3gb RAM i-device today i'd say 8 is more than enough.
If we look at iPad as an example it can now be hooked up properly to a second screen and be used as a workstation, that will require more RAM.
I expect to see the same with iPhone when USB-C is launched. Android have had this for years and I can only assume that Apple will offer the same thing with iPhone (desktop mode).
But, as far as I understand things more RAM generally means heavier battery usage and that we also have to dig deeper in our wallets. So I hope Apple figures out a sweet spot for most users and focus on offering more memory on Pro and Ultra models and compensate that with a bigger battery.
If I can work propely on a 3gb RAM i-device today i'd say 8 is more than enough.
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It was junk right out of the box but people who just used their iPhone for calls, messages, FB and train times swore blind that it was a great phone and that the handful of us slating it were forum trolls.
Many will disagree with you here. When I had the 6 Plus all those years ago it would not hold more than one web browser page and one app in memory. Any more than that and it was refresh city. It also used to freeze up randomly. That thing was hella underspecced and I couldn't wait to dump it. I was on a two year upgrade cycle back then and ditched that thing after 11 months.
It was junk right out of the box but people who just used their iPhone for calls, messages, FB and train times swore blind that it was a great phone and that the handful of us slating it were forum trolls.
During iPhone’s first 9 years, RAM doubled every 2 years.
Then, every 2 years it increased by either 1/2 or 1/3.
If this slower rate of increase continues, we can expect 48GB RAM in a decade, and 256GB RAM in 2 decades.
Then, every 2 years it increased by either 1/2 or 1/3.
If this slower rate of increase continues, we can expect 48GB RAM in a decade, and 256GB RAM in 2 decades.
Yes. And if it's suspended in RAM, then RAM is being used. Otherwise there would be no need to swap.
You really think it uses more energy to boot an app twice in (say) an hour than it does to suspend the app in RAM for the whole hour? Even iOS will kill the app completely after a certain amount of time or demand for RAM. Because it's not more efficient to keep an app suspended for a length of time.
Apple has explained how this works and they designed the software and hardware. I'm not really understanding which part of "iOS already manages the RAM for you and suspends/kills processes as needed to prioritize the app you're currently using" is making you feel like you need to manually do all that unnecessary micromanagement but if it makes you feel like you're solving something, keep doing what works for you.
Indeed they have and they are where I'm pulling what I'm saying. The app may be suspended but that means it still has resources allocated to keeping it available. Which means that killing the app frees up all the resources it was using and reduces the amount of battery being drained from keeping processes active and RAM used. Apple also says that after a certain amount of time of inactivity or resources requests, the apps will start being killed anyway.
My point is only that if you have 15 apps in suspended mode and are complaining about your phone running slowly, maybe kill some apps. That's what the phone does itself when it exceeds its parameters, but you can do it yourself before it redlines.
It’s time for more because apps are restarting all the time after taking a couple of photos. Hopefully 8GB of RAM will help with that, although I think it was leaked that this year is 6GB again?
What? It absolutely will be used, even if just to keep more apps suspended and save the need to reload them.
I am sure if the Apps restarted all over, it was because the small capacity of the RAM. Apple’s unique gravestone merchnism only allows maximum several active Apps in the RAM, e.g. 3.
The RAM power consumption is negligible to the overall battery life of a phone. iOS being more optimized is why it lasts longer, not the amount of RAM it has (and the more power efficient chips).
It doesn’t matter how much RAM it has when iOS aggressively flushes apps. I have a 13 and just this week I was filling out a medical form in safari. Someone came by so I put the phone down for 5 minutes (screen turned off ). When I picked it up again safari reloaded and I lost all the data I had entered. Not the end of the world but certainly irritating. Cmon even a 4GB window 95 machine would’ve held multiple bowser tabs indefinitely.
All these years later I remember you and I commiserating about that when other people mocked us and said we were imagining what lemons our phones were. I was new to the forum then. 🤣
Yep, at the current rate of RAM growth, the iPhone won't exceed 10,000GB of RAM until the year 2065.
(Edit: the chart reflects actual RAM growth up to the dotted line.)
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