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How many people really need M1 Pro or M1 Max
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Well, if by software you include browsers... Cuz it's basically impossible to browse on most 2005 computers, much less a 2001. In 2001, I was using a G3 iBook. In 2005 I was using a G5 iMac.
Even with a modern browser that can run on the 2006-2007 Intel computers, those machines are often very problematic because of the performance issues, partly due to the fact that a lot of these computers don't have hardware h.264 acceleration. You often can't even watch a news video without bringing your computer to its knees.
You can run MS Office 2011 though I guess.
BTW, even in 2001, the G4 iBook was kinda slow. The G5 iMac was OK in 2005 though.
My 2007 8-core Mac Pro is OK performance-wise in 2021 though.
We still use a 2008 MacBook Core 2 Duo 2.0 and 2009 MacBook Pro Core 2 Duo 2.26 with SSD and 8 GB RAM as well as GPUs that support hardware h.264 acceleration, but while usable, honestly they still feel quite slow even just browsing the net to look for recipes.
OTOH, I finally put an SSD in my 2010 Core i7-870 iMac with 12 GB RAM yesterday, and it basically feels almost like a modern machine. The main thing holding it back is the fact it is stuck on 10.13 High Sierra, but even then it's fine.
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I fully agree (I actually came to this post from searching exactly this on google). But who needs SUVs as well and see how good selling they are. Unfortunately we all got more materialistic and as far as you can afford it you'll probably want one.
But yeah, I don't think anyone really needs such a powerful laptop, you'd have a desktop otherwise anyway, and they still provide more power and especially more power per dollar. Get a 5950x desktop with 64gb RAM and dual GTX 3080 GPUs if you really need that much power, and it'll still be cheaper than the M1 Max MBP. Obviously this wouldn't run Mac OS though.
Only case I can really see some use for this machine is for a professional who travels a lot and needs a powerful machine everywhere he goes. Perhaps a photographer for instance that needs to edit pictures in different locations?
But yeah, for 99% of people a MBA is more than enough power already.
As a non pro (or to clarify someone who doesn’t do high end video editing, music mixing or coding) you’re not the target. That’s why they don’t appeal to you.
Sorry but if you don't really need that power you'll get much better value and performance by getting a MBA now and replacing it in 5 years time with another MBA. That MBA will be faster than the current M1 Max.
Eh, as many others have said - everyone has their own reason. To the guy who said 'I don't like it'. OK. Me, personally, I'm very seriously considering upgrading from a 2017 15.4" solely for the screen. It's a bit heavier, it's insanely overkill for what I do/need (mostly browse MR and edit word docs), but....so what? Most consumers...aren't you.
Apple sold the everloving dickens out of those colorful iBooks back in the day. You know why? B/c they had color options. I was in school at the time and literally remember people talking about which color they got. Shoot, just look at the people on MR who debate colors on their iPhones. People literally bought those Volkswagon Bug redesigned vehicles b/c it had a 'flower holder' inside. I'm not making that up.
People will buy this thing for an ungodly wide variety of reasons, and most are illogical. Some people will buy the maxxed out, biggest specc'ed one, just b/c it's the most expensive. I've seen it happen, far more often than you'd expect. People do all sorts of absolutely stupid non-rational purchasing decisions. Welcome to sales.
Apple sold the everloving dickens out of those colorful iBooks back in the day. You know why? B/c they had color options. I was in school at the time and literally remember people talking about which color they got. Shoot, just look at the people on MR who debate colors on their iPhones. People literally bought those Volkswagon Bug redesigned vehicles b/c it had a 'flower holder' inside. I'm not making that up.
People will buy this thing for an ungodly wide variety of reasons, and most are illogical. Some people will buy the maxxed out, biggest specc'ed one, just b/c it's the most expensive. I've seen it happen, far more often than you'd expect. People do all sorts of absolutely stupid non-rational purchasing decisions. Welcome to sales.
It's just slow in general. Just booting up the PC and starting the software (equipment controller, Excel/Word 2000, etc) takes forever.
I don't have a Core 2-based laptop. I was thinking more along the lines of desktop Core 2 Duo E8400 3GHz or Core 2 Q9550. Paired with SSDs, those aren't much slower than 1st gen Nehalem Core i-series.
You may want to consider investigating why. A Pentium 4 computer should not struggle with Excel/Word 2000. I also have to ask why a PC controlling expensive equipment is being used with office applications.
I think you probably just have a higher level of tolerance. I doubt most people would consider a P4 with 1GB RAM and HDD running XP and Office 2000 to be particularly responsive. I'm used to apps opening in seconds or even split second on my current devices.
As for why the PC has office apps, we copy data from the GC-MS equipment software to reports on Word and Excel.
Given the power of the M1 Max, imagine what Apple could (will) do with a desktop chip which has no battery power or small form factor cooling considerations.
The Apple Silicon Mac Pro could potentially be an insane machine.
The Apple Silicon Mac Pro could potentially be an insane machine.
I used a Pentium II system with Office 2000 and it was my experience it ran quite well on that system. I would hardly characterize it as "taking forever" to do anything. There is definitely something wrong with that system if it struggles to run Excel / Word 2000.
Agree. I will stick with my M1 MBP and wait for the next version which should look better than this.
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This is clearly a step back in design and desirability. WOW, look how thick and clunky this is.
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Nah. And where is my SD slot on the air or 16” screen? I’ll pass. No need to be sorry, though!
I am unsure how you're reaching that conclusion. You say it looks thicker than the 13" MBP but it's actually .01mm thinner. Don't trust a picture, look at the specs.
Why in the world would they need to add an ugly, fat, thick HDMI port when Apple clearly knows that the few Pros who use HDMI own dongles!
Design = all about appearance not paper specs. And it definitely appears thicker, clunky and ugly.
Really having a difficult time understanding where this whole idea of chunky is coming from. The 14" MBP is the same thickness as the 13" MBP. The 16" MBP is a mere 1.2mm thicker than the 13" MBP.
These are not paper specs, they're the real specs. And while it might appear thicker it, at least the 14" MBP, is not.