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verwon

macrumors 68030
Jul 26, 2011
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Seattle
Never. You might want to organize your music, and make sure it's all in the same place. Consolidate your music.

This should be something that you should be able to ask Siri.

"Why does iTunes delete my music"? REF: https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/1316830/

EDIT:

Looks like Apple is anti-motoleo. They are deleting your iPhone apps too. https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/1317622/

Your iPod Touch is broken: https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/1317094/

Hope you get your issues fixed.

Bahahaha! Nice!
 

trainguy77

macrumors 68040
Nov 13, 2003
3,567
1
Never. I have synced my music since day one years ago and haven't had it delete any music.
 

motoleo

macrumors 6502a
Original poster
Jan 27, 2012
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Why does iTunes even have a setting that deletes your music when you click Sync? Automatically.

Why does it download deleted apps that aren't even on your device? Automatically.

Why can it sync through Wi-fi only when it is plugged in? This one just flat out doesn't make sense.

Why does it rearrange your apps?

99% of the time, iTunes will do something to your device that you did not want it to do.

I don't like iTunes.
 

takeshi74

macrumors 601
Feb 9, 2011
4,974
68
Zero

This is impossible to believe. Did you guys help build the software or something?
Maybe y'all just forgot...
You might want to read up on Occam's Razor.

Why does iTunes even have a setting that deletes your music when you click Sync? Automatically.

Why does it download deleted apps that aren't even on your device? Automatically.

Why can it sync through Wi-fi only when it is plugged in? This one just flat out doesn't make sense.

Why does it rearrange your apps?

99% of the time, iTunes will do something to your device that you did not want it to do.
...and you're confusing "you" with "I".
 

motoleo

macrumors 6502a
Original poster
Jan 27, 2012
904
1
What? You're kidding right? What is difficult about iTunes? You buy or upload your music, plug in your ipod, and click "SYNC".

If you seriously think it's a 3 step process, you're in for a rude awakening.
 
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ericrwalker

macrumors 68030
Oct 8, 2008
2,812
4
Albany, NY
A lot of people don't like iTunes. It's a beast, too much stuff in one program, and it's not very fast, but it does what it's supposed to do and and does it very well (but slow).

It's a PEBKAC error, I promise you.


Why does iTunes even have a setting that deletes your music when you click Sync? Automatically.

Why does it download deleted apps that aren't even on your device? Automatically.

Why can it sync through Wi-fi only when it is plugged in? This one just flat out doesn't make sense.

Why does it rearrange your apps?

99% of the time, iTunes will do something to your device that you did not want it to do.

I don't like iTunes.
 

motoleo

macrumors 6502a
Original poster
Jan 27, 2012
904
1
I've watched the 10 minute tutorial and I'm not watching it again.

When I plug my device into iTunes, I never know what will happen.

It could delete all your music, reset your device or rearrange your apps, or add deleted apps to your device.

Copytrans all the way. Anything but iTunes.
 

ericrwalker

macrumors 68030
Oct 8, 2008
2,812
4
Albany, NY
You're right, we all agree with you. We were just messing with you. Yesterday I connected to iTunes, it deleted all my music.

This morning I connected again and it downloaded all of Justin Biebers music. I mean really WTF? I never bought a Justin Bieber song in my life.

Boycott iTunes everybody :rolleyes:


I've watched the 10 minute tutorial and I'm not watching it again.

When I plug my device into iTunes, I never know what will happen.

It could delete all your music, reset your device or rearrange your apps, or add deleted apps to your device.

Copytrans all the way. Anything but iTunes.
 

fabian9

macrumors 65816
Nov 28, 2007
1,148
169
Bristol, UK
Why does iTunes even have a setting that deletes your music when you click Sync? Automatically.

Syncing is a process of ensuring that two (or more) devices have the same files on them.

You remove them from your library, they'll be removed from your iPod. You remove a synced playlist from your iTunes, it'll be removed from your iPod. What's wrong with this?

Why does it download deleted apps that aren't even on your device? Automatically.

Go to iTunes preferences/Store and turn off automatic downloads.

Why can it sync through Wi-fi only when it is plugged in? This one just flat out doesn't make sense.

You can always wirelessly sync your iPod touch, iPhone, iPad by selecting it in iTunes and hitting sync. Or by going to the appropriate place on your iOS settings app and hitting sync there. No need to be plugged in.

It'll wirelessly sync overnight when it's charging, connected to the same network as your computer and your computer is turned on.

Why does it rearrange your apps?

It doesn't for me. When does it do this for you?

I don't like iTunes.

Many people don't. The alternative I suppose would be a drag and drop music folder, which would be impossible to keep organised, and be limited to music. Not sure how you would implement all the other synchronisation features that iTunes has via a drag and drop system.
 

Tomorrow

macrumors 604
Mar 2, 2008
7,160
1,365
Always a day away
I'm going to ask a serious question here.

The only way I know of to even force iTunes to delete the music from my iPod is to delete everything from iTunes then sync the device.

OP, how exactly did you get iTunes to delete your music? I've never heard of this happening before, and I've had at least one iPod since 2004.
 

motoleo

macrumors 6502a
Original poster
Jan 27, 2012
904
1
I'm doing this is real-time:

=========

I've just logged into iTunes.

Clicked Apps / iTunes has many old apps that I've long deleted from my device. I deleted them because I don't want to see them again. Yet here they are.

Clicked Downloads / iTunes is downloading another deleted app. I've clicked to stop it. Deleting apps

A notification at the bottom of the screen.



" 3 iTunes downloads available "



What the hell? I just deleted those apps. And they're downloading all over again.

This is funny. Now there's




" 4 iTunes downloads available "




iPhone > Apps > Automatically sync new apps is unchecked. Sync apps is checked.

I'll uncheck that.

Notification.





" Are you sure you do not want to sync apps? All existing apps and their data on the iPhone 4S will be removed. "





Well damn.

=========

iTunes, you're impossible.
 
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Arelunde

macrumors 6502a
Jul 6, 2011
980
28
CA Central Coast
Never. I got confused when iTunes tried to delete all my music upon syncing on another computer, but then I just got used to the habit of always drag-and-dropping contents to my iPod.

This might be your problem ... if you don't use your main iTunes computer (and ONLY the main iTunes), a sync will wipe out nearly everything you have stored because it's syncing to a blank slate.

I have a laptop and a desktop (the main one) with iTunes on each. Once, I synced to the laptop, wondering if this would put all my iTunes data on my laptop. Nope. It deleted everything from my iPhone4 - or nearly everything. Purchased music was still there. Fortunately, I was able to restore from my desktop iTunes. Hard lesson.
 

motoleo

macrumors 6502a
Original poster
Jan 27, 2012
904
1
I don't need iTunes to manage my apps. I can't use apps on my computer. They're easily managed straight on the device.

I get music from a variety of sources. Not just iTunes. Amazon, YesAsia YouTube and other places. I don't use iTunes to play music. It's too slow. I use Windows Media Player.

When it comes to managing my music, you can use iTunes on your device. But iTunes does not have every song in the world. Or self recorded songs.

So I use Copytrans, you add a new song to your iPod and you're done.
 

dejo

Moderator emeritus
Sep 2, 2004
15,982
452
The Centennial State
iTunes has many old apps that I've long deleted from my device. I deleted them because I don't want to see them again. Yet here they are.
Perhaps you should try deleting them from iTunes. I don't know if you've comprehended this yet, but iTunes is acting like the main storage for your music, apps, etc. So when you tell it to Sync, you're telling it: "taking into account my settings, make my device match what is stored in iTunes".

A notification at the bottom of the screen. 3 iTunes downloads available.
Are you sure it doesn't say "3 Updates Available"? If you want help troubleshooting, you should be accurate in what you are telling us.
 

motoleo

macrumors 6502a
Original poster
Jan 27, 2012
904
1
I've spent so long talking about this..
 

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balamw

Moderator emeritus
Aug 16, 2005
19,365
979
New England
As with most computer issues it's only doing what you told it to do.

You can tell iTunes not to:
  • Update Apps that are in your iTunes library
  • Manage Apps on your iDevice at all
  • Manually manage music (*)
  • ...

You have just left it at the default, which for MOST users was the simplest way of managing content, at least pre-iOS 5.

iTunes on your Mac/PC is your library. The iPod/iPhone is a mirror of that.

Why is that hard to understand?

If you want it to behave differently you need to tell it what you want.

(*) EDIT: This gives you the drag/drop single file behavior you are talking about with CopyTrans if that is what you want.

B
 

ZipZap

macrumors 603
Dec 14, 2007
6,112
1,467
Itunes keeps the lastest version of your App even if you deleted if from your device.

I also have many older versions of apps from the time before itunes cleaned them up (deleted them).

I doubt your music is being deleted. You are corrupting your itunes database probably because you are doing something you should not be doing.
 
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