How many times has iTunes deleted all your iPod music?

[motoleo]

Itunes keeps the lastest version of your App even if you deleted if from your device.

I also have many older versions of apps from the time before itunes cleaned them up (deleted them).

I doubt your music is being deleted. You are corrupting your itunes database probably because you are doing something you should not be doing.

When I delete an app from my device- I want it GONE. That's the purpose of deleting an app. I don't want it to begin downloading when I turn on iTunes. I download an app I don't like, I delete it. I don't want to see it again.

I tried to manually manage my music before, but I'm just scared to touch iTunes.

After you drag and drop, you still have to sync. There's some kind of method of clicking that you have to do to make it not delete your entire library.

And how is anyone supposed to know all of the things you have to un-check before you're safe? And I'm tech savvy. My mother could never do this.

I feel like I don't have any control over my music.

 

[balamw]

I feel like I don't have any control over my music.

For me at least, learning to trust iTunes and thus relinquishing this control you seek is exactly what brought me back to the Mac platform (and iOS) after 15 years away.

iTunes allows me to enjoy my 22,000+ track library in ways I could not ever manage in the CD era or if I tried to "control" it manually.

Smart playlists rock.

B

 

[Tomorrow]

I don't need iTunes to manage my apps. I can't use apps on my computer. They're easily managed straight on the device.

This is true, if you never connect the device to the computer.

I get music from a variety of sources. Not just iTunes. Amazon, YesAsia YouTube and other places. I don't use iTunes to play music. It's too slow. I use Windows Media Player.

I also get music from a variety of sources - but for good or for ill, iTunes is still the means of syncing your music, whether you buy it from iTunes or not. Put all of your songs in iTunes (yes, all of them, regardless of where you bought them), then sync, and it won't delete your music.

When you connect an iPod to an iTunes library with no music in it, it's going to delete the music from your iPod - that's what synchronization is, by definition.

Again, you don't have to use iTunes to play your music, but you have to use it to synchronize.

When I delete an app from my device- I want it GONE. That's the purpose of deleting an app. I don't want it to begin downloading when I turn on iTunes. I download an app I don't like, I delete it. I don't want to see it again.

You seem not to understand the idea of synchronization.

If you want the app gone, you need to delete it from iTunes. iTunes manages your apps and music; the iPod simply carries them around with you. Yes, you can delete it from your iPod, but it's going to come back if you synchronize to an iTunes account that has the app or song.

After you drag and drop, you still have to sync. There's some kind of method of clicking that you have to do to make it not delete your entire library.

No, there isn't; your library is in iTunes. iTunes will copy that library - even if it's empty - to your iPod whenever you sync.

And how is anyone supposed to know all of the things you have to un-check before you're safe? And I'm tech savvy.

Perhaps not tech savvy enough; when you use a piece of software contrary to its intended use, you need to configure it to work contrary to its intended use.

The defaults are set for people who use iTunes to manage their content, the way the system was designed. You've chosen to use it differently; therefore you need to configure it to work differently.

 

[balamw]

This is true, if you never connect the device to the computer.

FWIW, my wife's iPhone is set not to sync apps with iTunes. She syncs music, but not Apps.

but you have to use it to synchronize.

These days, if I download a new track (e.g. from Amazon) on one of my computers, I get it over to my iPhone using Home Sharing. I have no need to sync.

My mother could never do this.

Odds are, your mother would never want to exert this level of control.

B

 

[Tomorrow]

These days, if I download a new track (e.g. from Amazon) on one of my computers, I get it over to my iPhone using Home Sharing. I have no need to sync.

My iPod is a Classic - no wifi, so no Home Sharing. And it stays plugged into my truck most of the time, where I couldn'tuse it anyway.

 

[motoleo]

When you connect an iPod to an iTunes library with no music in it, it's going to delete the music from your iPod - that's what synchronization is, by definition.

You seem not to understand the idea of synchronization.

I would've thought that when you sync it, all the music on your iPod with go into your iTunes library.

If you want the app gone, you need to delete it from iTunes. iTunes manages your apps and music; the iPod simply carries them around with you. Yes, you can delete it from your iPod, but it's going to come back if you synchronize to an iTunes account that has the app or song.

iTunes keeps track of every app you download onto your iPod, whether you've deleted it or not. I don't understand this concept. If I've already deleted the app, why would it show up in iTunes to be put back onto my iPod?

I see the strengths of iTunes but, when I'm using it for my iPod- it confuses me.

 

[Tomorrow]

I would've thought that when you sync it, all the music on your iPod with go into your iTunes library.

That would make copying your friends' songs too easy. The synchronization process (with music, anyway) was meant to be a one-way ordeal for that reason.

iTunes keeps track of every app you download onto your iPod, whether you've deleted it or not. I don't understand this concept. If I've already deleted the app, why would it show up in iTunes to be put back onto my iPod?

If you delete the app from iTunes, that won't happen. It doesn't on my machine.

Yes, iTunes still knows that I had downloaded the app previously - but if I delete the app from iTunes, it will no longer put it on my iPod, and it will no longer prompt me for updates for the app.

 

[motoleo]

If you delete the app from iTunes, that won't happen. It doesn't on my machine.

Yes, iTunes still knows that I had downloaded the app previously - but if I delete the app from iTunes, it will no longer put it on my iPod.

I go through lots of apps. You know that ones you download from the top 10 list, only to find out their not-so-great apps? Everyone has apps they don't like. You mean I have to go into iTunes and clean out all that trash?

 

[dejo]

I go through lots of apps. You know that ones you download from the top 10 list, only to find out their not-so-great apps? Everyone has apps they don't like. You mean I have to go into iTunes and clean out all that trash?

Yes, unless you have turned off "Sync Apps".

 

[Ashka]

Mac since 2004 including various iPods and 2 x iPads ~ NEVER

 

[Tomorrow]

I go through lots of apps. You know that ones you download from the top 10 list, only to find out their not-so-great apps? Everyone has apps they don't like. You mean I have to go into iTunes and clean out all that trash?

Exactly. Delete them. Put them in the trash. If you don't want them, get rid of them.

 

[ericrwalker]

If THEY'RE not good apps you can delete them or wait for updates. I have apps that weren't good, but waited for updates, then they were great. Some developers actually read reviews of THEIR apps.

I go through lots of apps. You know that ones you download from the top 10 list, only to find out their not-so-great apps? Everyone has apps they don't like. You mean I have to go into iTunes and clean out all that trash?

 

[motoleo]

How exactly did you get iTunes to delete your music?

Yes, unless you have turned off "Sync Apps".

And THAT'S how the music gets deleted.

If Sync Apps is off, it will delete apps from your device.

If Sync Apps is on, it will download deleted apps not on your device.

It's a lose-lose situation. And all those people saying is a 3 step process are being hugely misleading.

 

[Kyotoma]

Not really. You're just misunderstanding. iTunes will download purchases that it recognizes you made and will sync those apps(music, and ibooks, if you have the settings checked properly on your iOS device) to your device accordingly when you plug it in to you computer. iTunes will not know that you had already deleted it from your device.

 

[GraphicsGeek]

OP, are you using iCloud? It sounds like you are. When you download an app from your device, it automatically downloads on your computer as well. Same thing with music purchased in iTunes.

You need to uncheck "Automatically sync new apps" that's located under the list of apps when you click on your device then the Apps tab. You should also disable the Apps under your iCloud tool for Windows (which im just assuming there is one since I don't use Windows). This should stop your apps from automatically downloading to your computer and then your iPod.

Syncing music is a one way street. Meaning from iTunes to iDevice UNLESS the music was purchased in iTunes. Uncheck the option to sync all music and sync all checked music (or whatever the proper language is, i dont have itunes in front of me right now) and check the option to manually manage music. Instead of dragging and dropping, click on the music tab under your device in iTunes and check the artist/album/genre/playlist or whatever other option there is.

Lastly, iTunes should contain ALL of your music, regardless of where you download it from. It also helps to have your music properly tagged. If you plug in an iPod with music on it to a computer that it isn't registered to, then yes, it will delete the music on your device. This is to prevent piracy.

You're expecting your iPod to work like other mp3 players but it doesn't. If you're not willing to use iTunes and it's sync process like its intended to be used, then you should probably look into another mp3 player.

 

[thelatinist]

I go through lots of apps. You know that ones you download from the top 10 list, only to find out their not-so-great apps? Everyone has apps they don't like. You mean I have to go into iTunes and clean out all that trash?

No, you can turn off automatic downloading of apps. People have answered this question for you before. Then iTunes on your computer will no longer download every app you try out on your device.

Likewise, if you want to manage your music using a third-party app, turn off music syncing entirely. Then iTunes won't sync your phone to your non-existent iTunes library.

 

[ayeying]

And THAT'S how the music gets deleted.

If Sync Apps is off, it will delete apps from your device.

If Sync Apps is on, it will download deleted apps not on your device.

It's a lose-lose situation. And all those people saying is a 3 step process are being hugely misleading.

i have sync apps off, and i have iTunes managing my music library. i have not have my 1400 songs ever deleted off my phone.

 

[motoleo]

OP, are you using iCloud? It sounds like you are. When you download an app from your device, it automatically downloads on your computer as well. Same thing with music purchased in iTunes.

You need to uncheck "Automatically sync new apps" that's located under the list of apps when you click on your device then the Apps tab. You should also disable the Apps under your iCloud tool for Windows (which im just assuming there is one since I don't use Windows). This should stop your apps from automatically downloading to your computer and then your iPod.

Syncing music is a one way street. Meaning from iTunes to iDevice UNLESS the music was purchased in iTunes. Uncheck the option to sync all music and sync all checked music (or whatever the proper language is, i dont have itunes in front of me right now) and check the option to manually manage music. Instead of dragging and dropping, click on the music tab under your device in iTunes and check the artist/album/genre/playlist or whatever other option there is.

Lastly, iTunes should contain ALL of your music, regardless of where you download it from. It also helps to have your music properly tagged. If you plug in an iPod with music on it to a computer that it isn't registered to, then yes, it will delete the music on your device. This is to prevent piracy.

You're expecting your iPod to work like other mp3 players but it doesn't. If you're not willing to use iTunes and it's sync process like its intended to be used, then you should probably look into another mp3 player.

That there...is a lot of work, but I guess it comes with the territory. I can try it. Thanks for the help.

 

[GraphicsGeek]

That there...is a lot of work, but I guess it comes with the territory. I can try it. Thanks for the help.

No it's not a lot of work. I just talk a lot. Checking and unchecking those settings takes probably less than a minute.

 

[Jordan921]

Never had my music deleted

 

[balamw]

When you download an app from your device, it automatically downloads on your computer as well. Same thing with music purchased in iTunes.

That is definitely the default behavior, but it can absolutely be disabled even without iCloud.

In the Mac version at least these are settings under "Store Preferences". I'm not currently logged in so that's why everything is greyed out.

If you're not willing to use iTunes and it's sync process like its intended to be used, then you should probably look into another mp3 player.

As I mentioned above, "giving in" to iTunes was a major factor in my return to the Mac, and actually enjoying using my computer again.

My iPod is a Classic - no wifi, so no Home Sharing. And it stays plugged into my truck most of the time, where I couldn'tuse it anyway.

We're in the iOS 5 subforum and talking about App syncing, so I think we can safely assume that is not the case for the OP.

B

 

[motoleo]

But it's already unchecked.. I think I need a spare iPod to test this out on, cause I don't want to lose anything. I already had to start over on my Mega Jump game.

This is how it looks to me..it's exactly like this..

 

[Tomorrow]

This is how it looks to me..it's exactly like this..

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But...but...you're tech savvy.

Seriously, though, why don't you just copy your music into iTunes? It won't be physically moved from wherever it is now, you can still play it with whatever player you like, but when you plug in everything will sync properly. It really is a simple process, you're just trying your best to break it (and it's working).

 

[dejo]

If Sync Apps is off, it will delete apps from your device.

No, it won't. Don't be silly.

 

[motoleo]

OP, are you using iCloud? It sounds like you are. When you download an app from your device, it automatically downloads on your computer as well. Same thing with music purchased in iTunes.

You need to uncheck "Automatically sync new apps" that's located under the list of apps when you click on your device then the Apps tab. You should also disable the Apps under your iCloud tool for Windows (which im just assuming there is one since I don't use Windows). This should stop your apps from automatically downloading to your computer and then your iPod.

Syncing music is a one way street. Meaning from iTunes to iDevice UNLESS the music was purchased in iTunes. Uncheck the option to sync all music and sync all checked music (or whatever the proper language is, i dont have itunes in front of me right now) and check the option to manually manage music. Instead of dragging and dropping, click on the music tab under your device in iTunes and check the artist/album/genre/playlist or whatever other option there is.

Lastly, iTunes should contain ALL of your music, regardless of where you download it from. It also helps to have your music properly tagged. If you plug in an iPod with music on it to a computer that it isn't registered to, then yes, it will delete the music on your device. This is to prevent piracy.

You're expecting your iPod to work like other mp3 players but it doesn't. If you're not willing to use iTunes and it's sync process like its intended to be used, then you should probably look into another mp3 player.

No it's not a lot of work. I just talk a lot. Checking and unchecking those settings takes probably less than a minute.

Thank you everyone for all your answers. I can't believe how understanding you all are. I am so grateful for all your help. I will try everything that you've all said. I really will try. Thanks again.