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How many would have preferred the old form factor with upgraded parts?
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I wonder if anyone actually interested in a mac pro thinks this piece of crap is a good idea. My guess is it's just the kiddies who think making the iPhone 1mm thinner is a revolutionary improvement who like the new "pro". Of course they're not in the market for a real computer.
Who gives a damn how much effort apple puts into new manufacturing and design processes? Make a decent computer with decent functionality. It should be a no compromise workhorse not a cheap little frilly bit of eye candy that's 8% faster than the one from 3 years ago.
Definitely. I tend to buy products that I think are really smart things rather than those that Apple thinks are really smart things. Therefore I own a Mac Pro, a MacBook Pro and a mini but not a retina MBP or an iMac.
Just got a Mac Pro
I just got a used mid 2010 Mac Pro - I like a tower with my additional drives installed. I will see how the Mac Pro 2013 will do - I will get one in the future but I'll let it mature.
Except for the design I don't really think there is that much difference!!
I just got a used mid 2010 Mac Pro - I like a tower with my additional drives installed. I will see how the Mac Pro 2013 will do - I will get one in the future but I'll let it mature.
Except for the design I don't really think there is that much difference!!
I love the design of the mirror door drive Powermac G4. What was it that wasn't necessary or good for pros?
I don't think he can agree to that. He's probably written 100+ pages on here defending the iTube since it was announced, it's not like he's going to turn around and say "my bad, ignore the last 500 posts I wrote."
Honestly, I've learned a lot from the discussion about thunderbolt Vs PCIe, but ultimately it just solidifies my position that TB is an answer to a question nobody asked.
Not fair .
Discussing forum members is a bit lame, but allow me to chime in .
deconstruct has made countless arguments both pro and con the tube MP and TB , Apple marketing and product policy , since the tube announcement .
My computing knowledge is rather dismal, yet I dare say this poster doesn't sound biased to me .
Disclaimer: I don't fancy the new MP, and am quite opposed to TB the way Apple is handling it .
I guess I mostly agree, he has brought to my attention a lot of positive and negative things about TB that I didn't know (he being clearly in love with TB while I being confused as to why PCIe was a problem). However, I keep seeing the same false-choices about TB presented to make it look better than it is--and he doesn't seem to respond when he's directly called out on some of these things, instead choosing to argue over semantics and compare 3-year-old hardware to this iTube thing which wont even be out for 6 months (perhaps longer).
This is a stupid decision by Apple! The Mac Pro line form factor should remain with upgrades internally so the computer can be better and faster. This gimmick reminds me of the Cube which happily died!
Im in the old form factor camp....as nice as it looks, the newbie just isn't going to be as easy to get into...not impossible, just harder. Will it stop me buying one?
Not a chance
Not a chance
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I bought a used Mac Pro tower (early 2009 model with a Nehalem 64bit 2.93 GHz CPU) which is in route to my residence but it doesn't have an Apple Airport Extreme Card 802.11n card. Does anyone know where I can find a compatible card as it seems Apple had manufactured several variety of cards.
Thank you.
I bought a used Mac Pro tower (early 2009 model with a Nehalem 64bit 2.93 GHz CPU) which is in route to my residence but it doesn't have an Apple Airport Extreme Card 802.11n card. Does anyone know where I can find a compatible card as it seems Apple had manufactured several variety of cards.
Thank you.
I bought a used Mac Pro tower (early 2009 model with a Nehalem 64bit 2.93 GHz CPU) which is in route to my residence but it doesn't have an Apple Airport Extreme Card 802.11n card. Does anyone know where I can find a compatible card as it seems Apple had manufactured several variety of cards.
Thank you.
If you want an Apple card then ebay is your friend, if you want after market TP link is your friend.
Not true. They could have done any of the following:
- Had Thunderbolt ports WITHOUT the display component (would not be able to run thunderbolt displays, but could do everything else).
- Used a CPU with integrated graphics and pipe the signal through using memory sharing (not likely with LGA2011)
- Used an (optional) external cable from the display port to the thunderbolt controller like this.
- Used a CPU with integrated graphics and pipe the signal through using memory sharing (not likely with LGA2011)
- Used an (optional) external cable from the display port to the thunderbolt controller like this.
I'm not saying any of this is very likely, as Apple is trying to sell thunderbolt displays to people whose money to common sense ratio is alarmingly high. Still though, they had options to innovate here and chose to create a clearly inferior product for their most discerning class of customer.
I believe that TB was born to address a mobile computing issue. Apple wanted a single cable to connect your Macbook to a display/dock. TB is exactly that.
I also believe that on a Mac Pro with PCIe slots, TB adds little or no value. A dock isn't needed, there's space for cards inside, and cable clutter is not a priority.
Lastly though, I believe that PCIe card support for the Mac Pro is poor with little hope of improvement (and likely getting worse) in which case allowing the Mac Pro to tag along with the Mobile computers and use TB devices, is a potential boon (yet to be realized).
Of course, if you think PCIe card support for the Mac Pro is great, then I could certainly understand why this new direction makes no sense to you. But as I've said numerous times, after living with numerous PCIe card compromises in my 2009, I'm all for this new direction (especially given all that I've added to my Mac Pro is now integrated into the new model).
OK Apple it's 185 to 110. First one to 200 wins.
And per your contract, if the old form factor crowd wins you build a MP 6.1 that has the best of both worlds!
And per your contract, if the old form factor crowd wins you build a MP 6.1 that has the best of both worlds!
Also wishing Apple could have retained the old Tower form factor with updated specs. It also boils down to costs of upgrading to a new system and weighing things out.
The new Mac Pro may be as good looking as the Cube but as a professional business computer it will be a flop just like the Cube!
I don't really care all that much since I abandon all hope of using desktop Apple hardware years ago in favor of rolling my own, but the top poll choice should be dual Haswell, not IvyBridge.
Many dead cubes became Aquariums and other fun things.
I wonder if anyone will repurpose the iTrashCan into a food processor? Sharpen the fan blades and add a rheostat.
Julienne or diced?
I find that very difficult to believe! You are beginning to make things up!
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What I'm going to be saying to nMP users in 2 years when these become commonplace:
I am not concerned.....
by the form factor, after all, this is Apple: The Cube, the original iMac, the igloo iMac....the list can go on.
But I am concerned by questions about price, performance, lack of internal expansion and yes, upgraded hardware....
by the form factor, after all, this is Apple: The Cube, the original iMac, the igloo iMac....the list can go on.
But I am concerned by questions about price, performance, lack of internal expansion and yes, upgraded hardware....
Out of the following options in upgrading an old Mac Pro, how many are purchased from Apple or result in a payment of any other form to Apple?
1. CPU
2. GPU
3. RAM
4. SSD
Therein lies the reason for the end of the old form factor.
The old Mac Pro is a cash cow that keeps giving to everyone else apart from Apple.
1. CPU
2. GPU
3. RAM
4. SSD
Therein lies the reason for the end of the old form factor.
The old Mac Pro is a cash cow that keeps giving to everyone else apart from Apple.