I don’t recall: what’s the typical delta between dev & pub beta release dates? Thanks.
In same boat as some others: betas available on-device.
In same boat as some others: betas available on-device.
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Yeah and that's usually when they have their last beta.
I remember the public beta used to be made available 1 week later than the dev beta
Exactly — you might as well wait for the actual release... I want my damn Home widget!!
I figure if it’s good enough for Apple to release it’s good enough for me and they do give you a warning to not put it on your main device so it’s on you if things go wrong
I have always run Public Betas and am in the top percentage of competency for iPhone users, that said the great thing about the Public Betas is that it is usually Developer Beta 3 that first PB is released and by then it is quite stable. Maybe 17 is fairly stable from the get go but I would personally advise against installing dev beta 1 on a daily driver when PB 1 will be available soon enough.
Yes and no. It's a still a beta with a lot of bugs and generally the amount of bugs goes developer beta > public beta. Plus if you check the release notes between the betas, it's not a few bugs, really, it's a lot and that's fine.
However general public who does not contribute via Feedback Assistant or other methods to improving iOS and just consumes should IMHO still use the public track.
What's the point of using the developer beta if you don't submit bug reports, just to get it earlier?
When I check for updates on my iOS 16, I noticed I have an option for:
I was an Apple Developer but haven't paid the $99 for several years...
I was an Apple Developer but haven't paid the $99 for several years...
Thanks.
Curious the purpose of the relatively short delay - I don't suspect that affords time to address any bugs fixes. Just a devs-first courtesy, perhaps?
Anyway, for those so inclined, it's nice to see pub betas freely available. Expand the pool.
As many have covered here, proceed with caution.
They do start out asking whether one should do it, but I agree there’s not enough caution there. The biggest concern is to not use your main iCloud account. That’s where people really get hosed.
I see people mention backups, but not using a whole separate testing account. If there is a data loss bug in Photos and you use your main account and lose pictures, Apple is going to tell you that you were running a developer beta at your own risk and there may not be anything they can do for you.
Especially considering this is the very first beta, no one who isn’t actually prepared to test it should be messing with it.
People don’t submit bug reports in the public beta either. Even real developers don’t provide feedback. That’s an optional feature. If people really used that option, Apple wouldn’t have so many bugs as frequently
I was in fact unable to detect any obvious change on my iPad. Gonna do my phone next I guess.
Getting a lot of the automated feedback through Public Beta is helpful to Apple and to be honest many senior developers who focus on macOS, iOS and iPadOS development too and also get great conversions with Apple engineers about highly-specific problems. In the years we've developed iOS apps, I have to admit we always had a good experience with Apple on troubleshooting specific things in betas, especially using new APIs.
Does anyone know how to get rid of the Notification badge in Settings for the iOS 17 dev beta being available? I'm not enrolled in the Developer program but I am a Public Beta user. I noticed I can download ios17 but I rather wait until some of the bugs are resolved. I've already tried rebooting & turning Dev/Public Beta software updates to OFF but can't get rid of the badge in Settings. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks.
Often to catch system-breaking bugs or bugs that might be difficult to deal with for a regular user, the second reason being developers usually tend to provide more feedback compared to regular users so a lot of the bugs are caught and not reported multiple times by people later.
You should be able to disable beta updates in the software update section of the settings app. You can turn them back on once you’re ready, but turning it off should remove the update from your device.
Good points.
Are those system-breaking bugs typically identified and addressed in that week between dev and pub beta releases?
I guess I missed the part where they said previously enrolled get it. Thank you!
The point is that you should be able to figure out how to do this on your own, because during the beta you may have to figure out how to do something own your own as well. You should also be reporting bugs, for which you'd have to be able to figure out the steps to reproduce it.
Also, if someone is capable of figuring it out, it's also more likely that they have a proper backup, understand the risks involved, and have a separate device to test on.
I mean I tend to agree with some of the posters above that the performance of even developer betas has certainly gone up in the recent years and they are rarer however when they happen, usually that's the case. As somebody posted above - public beta 1 usually comes out around developer beta 3? Somewhere around that point so it's slightly polished.