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Major.Robto

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May 11, 2012
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we live in the world of the yeart 2012 every but about 10% of the people have social network acoutns

SUCK it UP AND DEAL WITH IT!

I have no clue why you are so mad about a Shari button having facebook and ****face,

No one is forceing you to use it, No one has forced you to sign up or anything,

Just let it be.

Also that sound like there is something wrong with the iphone,
 

Pagemakers

macrumors 68030
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Mar 28, 2008
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80% of the works use windows. Why not add that to the share menu too?

Why can't we share with hotmail or Skype?

Isn't everybody using that nowadays too?

Hmmm....
 

Major.Robto

macrumors 6502
May 11, 2012
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80% of the works use windows. Why not add that to the share menu too?

Why can't we share with hotmail or Skype?

Isn't everybody using that nowadays too?

Hmmm....

Hotmail is owned by microsoft and so is skype,

I refuse to use hotmail for regular work emails. Skype well its not hard to share with it if you want, drag and drop the file on the conversation.

the shiar menu wont have windows in it, why would it, if you want to shiar a document you can email it with a windows user email it.
look if you dont like the shair buttion you can remove it all together from finder.
 

rorschach

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Jul 27, 2003
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But you can change the Top Sites. They aren't baked into the OS which is the OP's point. Is it worth a law suit? No. But it is a valid concern.

The concern is the inability to remove "Twitter" from the sharing menu.

Can I remove "Show Top Sites" from the menus in Safari?
 

Major.Robto

macrumors 6502
May 11, 2012
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Sorry, but I'm going to need to ask you to cite your source on this claim.

I only know about 2 people who dont have social network acoutns,

Most of the world is on facebook besides poor staving kids in aferka and north korea oh and china


I know it may not be 90% but i bet im dam well close.
Everyone who is in the age range of 10-30 has one almost
 

ixodes

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Jan 11, 2012
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Fully agreed - the ones disagreeing with you probably have little knowledge of how Mac systems were cleaner and more streamlined before. I also don't have Twitter and don't want to waste UI space on something that is never used, especially crappy social network stuff.

I could not agree more. I like my Macs to be clean and devoid of the clutter that is caused by screen elements I do not use, nor want.

Social networking is something I have zero interest in, and in fact the entire concept and implementation irks me. That's why I feel the same as others that want none of it.

When Apple ads in third party garbage like this, I find it especially irritating. Every bit as irritating as the iOS elements that are now being "baked-in" to the previously terrific OS, known as OS X.

The blending / convergence of iOS into OS X is about to force me to reconsider the Mac platform. A decision I dread.

Now that Apple has forced us to obtain OS X updates and new versions through the Mac App store, the foreboding message this sends is quite clear.

After all these years, I simply cannot imagine not having a Mac to enjoy. I hate being forced into a corner like this.
 

Major.Robto

macrumors 6502
May 11, 2012
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Then remove the button in finder! JESUS!

If you have no acounts hooked up it wont show in notifaction center!


Also who cares if there are two options, I have air drop as a option to shair but my computer is not supported for it,

Why do you people care so much for this? Its the most stupid thing I ever herd in my life!

its like saying you dont want a car with more then two cup holders.
 

Krazy Bill

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Dec 21, 2011
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The concern is the inability to remove "Twitter" from the sharing menu.
Uh... no. The concern is removing a 3rd party link which is engrained in the bowels of OSX.

Can I remove "Show Top Sites" from the menus in Safari?
You're splitting hairs with me here. It's not what a menu selection says... it's what it does. Twitter has nothing to do with Apple and is merely made available because Twitter paid Apple to put it there (or Apple asked for money to do it).

It's a clever equivalent of an advertising banner.

Sheer genius on Apple's part.

I only know about 2 people who dont have social network acoutns,
3
 

cambookpro

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Feb 3, 2010
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Fully agreed - the ones disagreeing with you probably have little knowledge of how Mac systems were cleaner and more streamlined before. I also don't have Twitter and don't want to waste UI space on something that is never used, especially crappy social network stuff.

:rolleyes:

How close minded can you be, 'little knowledge of how Macs were cleaner and more streamlined before'? We should all use OS 9, since that has next to no features, yeah? Just because someone disagrees doesn't automatically mean they're stupid.

It's just a button: let's all get over it, as there's a lot more to worry about in life than a 30 pixel wide icon. Life is just too short.
 

gatearray

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Apr 24, 2010
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It's just a button: let's all get over it, as there's a lot more to worry about in life than a 30 pixel wide icon. Life is just too short.

These are the kinds of remarks people make when they don't have a valid argument for their position.

Nobody here is "worrying" about it, and life being short in your opinion has absolutely nothing to do with it, in fact, it could actually be an argument AGAINST these superfluous buttons getting in my way, but I digress. :)

No, all we are debating here is the design choice to include select third-party sharing options when said third-party's app has not been installed, and no account has been signed in to. That's it.

Ideally, my computer would be smart enough to present me with only relevant options for any given function, at any given time.

This idea of elegance is what Apple has stood for, what it does all day long, and it's how they made their name to a large extent-- so that's that's why long-time users are so put off and disappointed by the clunkiness and underhandedness of the current approach.

We're also offended by being constantly enticed to sign up for a service we have zero interest in all day long when we just want to email a link to a friend from Safari.
 

Lynn Belvedere

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Mar 13, 2012
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Oh my god. Could you overreact any more? Is this the sort of stuff you waste your energy on? Don't you have better things to do and to think about?

ITS A NON-ISSUE.

Edit: this was not directed at the OP particularly but more at the militant freaks which were attracted to this thread.

It is a very real issue and a very real annoyance.

I can't stand facebook/twitter integration on phones, and I hate it even more on my computer.

Might as well have a giant Coca-Cola icon permanently placed in the dock just in case you want to order a tasty beverage. Or maybe a mandatory Pizza Hut icon in case you are in the mood for some pizza.
 

Pagemakers

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Original poster
Mar 28, 2008
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It’s in Finder, Safari, iPhoto, Quicktime and no doubt numerous others.

How hard can it be for a preference pane like this…..

Include in Sharing Menu
Twitter []
Facebook []
Flickr[]
Etc etc….

Simple. Those who want it are happy. Those that don’t are happy too.
 

Lynn Belvedere

macrumors regular
Mar 13, 2012
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It’s in Finder, Safari, iPhoto, Quicktime and no doubt numerous others.

How hard can it be for a preference pane like this…..

Include in Sharing Menu
Twitter []
Facebook []
Flickr[]
Etc etc….

Simple. Those who want it are happy. Those that don’t are happy too.

But twitter and facebook wouldn't be getting their money's worth.
 

Major.Robto

macrumors 6502
May 11, 2012
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Why do you peopel even care about two buttions being in OSX?


Whats the big deal, I just dont get it.
 

dyn

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Aug 8, 2009
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Oh my god. Could you overreact any more? Is this the sort of stuff you waste your energy on? Don't you have better things to do and to think about?

ITS A NON-ISSUE.
You are among the ones overreacting ;) The problem now isn't that big because it is just in a few places where you can see things like twitter and facebook. However, it becomes more annoying when we go to Quicktime Player because it adds Vimeo, Youtube and Flickr. So now we have:
1. Email
2. Message
3. Airdrop
4. Facebook
5. Youtube
6. Vimeo
7. Flickr

Now imagine what will happen when others are added...we are going to need that 27" Thunderbolt Display just to be able to even use the share button if things continue to go like this. That's just complete madness.

We are not talking about something like the menus in the menubar. When menus get too much options they are divided into separate menus and submenus. This is just 1 long list without any separation, categories, etc. at all. It makes much more sense to have this as a user option where you can enable/disable it completely and select which services should show up in the share button list. You know, exactly the same thing they did for notifications centre (and by that I mean the showing up of twitter only when you've setup a twitter account as well as how NC manages the notifications). They've shown that they can do this on a technological level so yes, the current implementation of the share button is a bug or maybe even a design flaw.

I for one quite like the share button as it allows me to easily send something via email, Messages or AirDrop. I just don't like to have a gigantic list of every popular social networking site in it. It makes more sense to just add the ones you are actually using. Does it stop me from using ML? Nope, the pros outweigh the cons easily :)
 

Major.Robto

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May 11, 2012
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why not to make everyone happy

Make it so you can pick what shows up in the share menus,

to make people like OP to ****,

and so we wont have 345972547690453769452376 things on the screen at once as the last poster said that might happen
 

Lynn Belvedere

macrumors regular
Mar 13, 2012
237
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Why do you peopel even care about two buttions being in OSX?


Whats the big deal, I just dont get it.

Would you be OK with a non-removable Burger King icon in the dock that takes you directly to the official Burger King website? How about all new mac's come with Starbucks wallpaper that you can't change?

Facebook and twitter have NOTHING to do with Apple. It would be one thing if apple had it's own social network, then this might make sense. But I don't want third-party sites being integrated into my OS.
 

50548

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Apr 17, 2005
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:rolleyes:

How close minded can you be, 'little knowledge of how Macs were cleaner and more streamlined before'? We should all use OS 9, since that has next to no features, yeah? Just because someone disagrees doesn't automatically mean they're stupid.

It's just a button: let's all get over it, as there's a lot more to worry about in life than a 30 pixel wide icon. Life is just too short.

So how many more "buttons" are we supposed to accept? Ignorance doesn't mean stupidity - people just don't know better nowadays, that's all. Apple UI guidelines have always been very strict about this - at least until Forstall et al came on board, of course.
 

cambookpro

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Feb 3, 2010
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So how many more "buttons" are we supposed to accept? Ignorance doesn't mean stupidity - people just don't know better nowadays, that's all. Apple UI guidelines have always been very strict about this - at least until Forstall et al came on board, of course.

Ok, I get what you mean, but it's like Apple can't win.
They give people more options, and it's bad. They let people customise the options, people say it's bad as why can't they customise other options?
They don't give people anything, and people say it's bad.

I know I've said it, but I really wouldn't worry about this. I don't use Twitter and it really hasn't bothered me an iota. It's great that people who use Twitter can now tweet web pages, so let's just let them have their fun and move on. The implentation may not be perfect, but I'd rather have the option to tweet than not.
 

NewAnger

macrumors 6502a
Apr 24, 2012
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:rolleyes:

How close minded can you be, 'little knowledge of how Macs were cleaner and more streamlined before'? We should all use OS 9, since that has next to no features, yeah? Just because someone disagrees doesn't automatically mean they're stupid.

It's just a button: let's all get over it, as there's a lot more to worry about in life than a 30 pixel wide icon. Life is just too short.

Agreed. I don't use 80% of the stuff included in ML or any of the past OS versions and I can't get Apple to remove it either. How rude.
 

Stooby Mcdoobie

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Jun 26, 2012
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Have any of you guys tried complaining to Apple about this directly (their forums, emails, etc.)? If they get enough negative feedback, they might make these things optional in a future update/upgrade.
 
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