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SaguaroSeven

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Upgraded my brand new M2 Air and now get less than 3 hours battery life. Apple Store Genius said that's the new norm with macOS Ventura. I wish they would have told me that before I upgraded.
That demonstrates the variabiltiy of Apple "Geniuses" more than anything. It's certainly NOT normal. I'd think serioiusly about talking to a manager with a response like that. Nevertheless, Ventura battery life does seem worse for many.
 

chipooh11

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Nov 4, 2022
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Hi. Does anyone have any issues with the external display after updating to OS Ventura 13.01? I regretted my decision to upgrade today.

After updating, my main display on the laptop always turns black whenever I access the fully open window on the external display. I dunno what's wrong. For someone who needs to work with an external display to have a dual screen, this is a terrible issue.

UPDATE: Case Closed. Turns out the Display Have Separate Spaces was automatically turned off after the update. Turned it back on then all is good now.
 
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katastropoulos

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The energy consumption while playing YouTube in Safari also dropped significantly. I suspect that the WindowServer process consumes more energy when Stage Manager is active. I am also astonished why the WindowServer consumes 2,36 GB on my system with only Safari open and one YouTube and one MacRumors tab!

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I yesterday updated to MacOS Ventura 13.1 and now the WindowServer process does not consume 2,36 GB but only 1,07 GB, this is a big improvement. In the meantime under 13.0.1 I had this process consume up to 3GB, that was much too high!

I do not know if 1 GB is good but it consumes much less memory than before, so I would call it a win :)

Greetings, Janni
 
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cygy2k

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I've been waiting to upgrade my MBP 14 M1 Pro until the the battery issues were resolved. What have experiences been on 13.1 official release?
 
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SaguaroSeven

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I've been waiting to upgrade my MBP 14 M1 Pro until the the battery issues were resolved. What have experiences been on 13.1 official release?
Installed 13.1 the day after release. On MBP M1 13" i don't have any outrageous battery drain like I had a month ago. Watching pmset -g pslog it looks like the Mac is draining slightly faster than I'd expect when in normal use (I have a lot of apps open, but they aren't very active ones).
 
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cygy2k

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Installed 13.1 the day after release. On MBP M1 13" i don't have any outrageous battery drain like I had a month ago. Watching pmset -g pslog it looks like the Mac is draining slightly faster than I'd expect when in normal use (I have a lot of apps open, but they aren't very active ones).
Thank you very much for the update.
 

Caleb Hauge

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2017 12" MacBook (i5, 16GB, 512GB) here. Performance is normal, battery life is horrible. I went from getting over 10 hours of moderate use on this thing (battery is at 80% health, too!) to roughly 4 hours on Ventura, if I'm lucky. Other than that, it's fine. But the new features aren't worth the battery life to me, so I went back down to Big Sur after a couple months.
 
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tizzi91

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Mar 18, 2023
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Every update for “older” M1 are worse than previous ones and you can’t get performance and battery life as near as it was on Big Sur. Have two M1 machines and Big Sur one can hold the almost all day long with light tasks like browsing, word/excel editing and second Mac with Ventura 16.2 beta is draining battery blazing fast, barely gave me 6-7 hours.
And btw installing iOS/iPad apps on Big Sur 11.2.X is super satisfying.
On Ventura and Monterey you can’t install iOS iPad apps anymore?
 

asus389

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Battery life is really bad. My MBP drained 15% sleeping for 10 hours. That is slightly more than 1% per hour. I get an estimate of ~3:30 hours of use on 100% charge on a battery that is 1 year old with 200 cycles. On Catalina I was getting 6-8 hours with fairly heavy use and had minimal battery drain on sleep even for days. The Ventura UI is also kind of sluggish for some reason. There's still a lot of weird bugs in Ventura.
 
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OSXphoto

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I think I may have found a clue for the higher energy consumption of Ventura in comparison to Monterey. I was analyzing what new feature in Ventura I am now using constantly after having upgraded. The new feature that I am using is Stage Manager! So this is the difference to my previously perfectly running Monterey system!
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I will leave Stage Manager disabled and continue testing.
My M1 Max 16" battery drains much faster after moving to Ventura. I got really excited when I read your solution disabling stage manager. When I went to settings I found it was not enabled. So in my case there must be a different cause of excessive battery drain.

Although I haven't tested, I think in sleep mode (lid down) the battery drains slower when I disable WiFi and/or unplug any network adapters.
 
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