HP slate in the wild.

[georgee2face]

it'll sell well, as HP does great marketing. Their netbooks have sold well to the "unwashed". I hope it does well at christmas.

Apple remembers when someone one-ups them. This is only good for us.

 

[NT1440]

it'll sell well, as HP does great marketing. Their netbooks have sold well to the "unwashed". I hope it does well at christmas.

Apple remembers when someone one-ups them. This is only good for us.

This same "shoehorn a pc into a tablet without thinking about user experience at all" is what you consider a one up?


Also, I was under the impression this was a corporate product, not a consumer one.

 

[melman101]

This same "shoehorn a pc into a tablet without thinking about user experience at all" is what you consider a one up?


Also, I was under the impression this was a corporate product, not a consumer one.

I completely agree. I think if people saw this thing running Windows, they would run the other way. I do not see this thing selling well at all.

I think people are becoming very keen to the Mobile OS market, and right now iOS and Android are the leaders.

However, I'm not a fan of Android as fragmentation is a huge problem in their OS base. Some phones can update, some can't, even brand new phones don't come with the latest Android sometimes. I'm not a fan of that.

 

[MotleyGrrl]

The keyboard function was enough to make me not even care if there were any good features. How awful.

 

[nixiemaiden]

Windows 7 is awesome. Why would people run the other way?

 

[xraytech]

A "Control+Alt+Delete" Button?

hahahaha!!!

 

[LiloThePleo]

Windows 7 is awesome. Why would people run the other way?

Yeah Win 7 is ok... Win 7 on a tablet however... well its like watching Blu Ray on a black and white TV, sure you can see the picture... but its crap Or you can consider it as running Win 7 on an eight year old computer, it'll run it... but just barely.

 

[MythicFrost]

Nice hardware, aside from poor battery life and the ability to "not" be able to use any applications or games that are even slightly CPU orientated, wait, forget games altogether. Otherwise, anything else that fits into that category, would run just fine, aside from the fact most applications are designed for mouse and keyboard input, and doing it on the slate will be drastically slower.

I AM ANGRY AT HP SLATE rawr.

 

[nixiemaiden]

Yeah Win 7 is ok... Win 7 on a tablet however... well its like watching Blu Ray on a black and white TV, sure you can see the picture... but its crap Or you can consider it as running Win 7 on an eight year old computer, it'll run it... but just barely.

I don't think it will be too bad. Windows 7 runs surprisingly well on my netbook. The specs on the slate are probably similar or better.

I just find it so funny that people put it down without even trying one and then defend the iPad saying you need to try it to understand.

I also think it is funny that the iPad is "flawless" even though in my experience when I am browsing the web I get a checkerboard screen while waiting for web pages to load, I've had web pages reload on me in safari which somehow created a duplicate ebay transaction on me, and I have apps just randomly shut down on a regular basis.

The iPad is a great device, but it has its flaws just like every other tablet is going to have flaws. There is no reason to put down a product that you have never used.

 

[MythicFrost]

I don't think it will be too bad. Windows 7 runs surprisingly well on my netbook. The specs on the slate are probably similar or better.

I just find it so funny that people put it down without even trying one and then defend the iPad saying you need to try it to understand.

I also think it is funny that the iPad is "flawless" even though in my experience when I am browsing the web I get a checkerboard screen while waiting for web pages to load, I've had web pages reload on me in safari which somehow created a duplicate ebay transaction on me, and I have apps just randomly shut down on a regular basis.

The iPad is a great device, but it has its flaws just like every other tablet is going to have flaws. There is no reason to put down a product that you have never used.

Windows on a slate has failed before, the iPad hasn't, and in fact is succeeding. Most haters have never tried one, you don't really need to try Windows on a slate to know you'll get poor battery life and a poorish experience, it'll work for sure, you might even enjoy it a bit, but it's just not meant for a slate.

The iPad on the other hand, is designed for multi-touch, and to be run as a slate. It'll continually improve, however, until you get more technological break throughs, the HP slate is limited in how it can improve, I.E, battery life, CPU, GPU, etc.

 

[Dillenger]

Hmmmm, I push the power button to my iPad and instantly it's on. This thing has to boot up, but according to the guy doing the video, "It boots up pretty fast!" ROFL. Yep, I'm sure this will be an iPad killer <<<<<< Sarcasm.

 

[vastoholic]

Hmmmm, I push the power button to my iPad and instantly it's on. This thing has to boot up, but according to the guy doing the video, "It boots up pretty fast!" ROFL. Yep, I'm sure this will be an iPad killer <<<<<< Sarcasm.

You're not doing it from full off mode. Try it. It will take about the same time for iPad to boot up as the slate.

 

[blackNBUK]

You're not doing it from full off mode. Try it. It will take about the same time for iPad to boot up as the slate.

The boot-up time is pretty much irrelevant on an iPad as it is designed to be left in standby. The only time my iPad has been completely off is for a few seconds during the rare reboot I choose to do. I haven't used Windows 7 enough to know whether it can be used in the same way; Windows XP definitely couldn't.

I agree that pre-judging the Slate based on one video probably isn't wise. However the performance in that one video was horrendously bad, bad enough to make me extremely wary of the whole concept.

 

[nixiemaiden]

Windows on a slate has failed before, the iPad hasn't, and in fact is succeeding. Most haters have never tried one, you don't really need to try Windows on a slate to know you'll get poor battery life and a poorish experience, it'll work for sure, you might even enjoy it a bit, but it's just not meant for a slate.

The iPad on the other hand, is designed for multi-touch, and to be run as a slate. It'll continually improve, however, until you get more technological break throughs, the HP slate is limited in how it can improve, I.E, battery life, CPU, GPU, etc.

I am still not understanding...maybe it is because I am comparing my netbook. My windows 7 netbook gets similar battery life to my iPad. I get about 8-9 hours on the netbook and 10 hours on the iPad.

Also doesn't windows 7 work really well with touch? It seemed very responsive to me in the video.

Why is the HP slate limited to how it can improve? You can put whatever software you want on it. The hardware will improve over time just like on the iPad. Developers can optimize software for it.

I have nothing but good things to say about HP. They have been working on this tablet for a long time. They have the option of using palm's software instead and they still are going with windows 7 and there must be a reason for it. Other windows 7 tablets that may have come out have probably been rushed into and thrown together and not planned out like the slate has been. I think it will be a great product.

Unfortunately companies like to throw tablets together (Android, Windows & whatever) that are crap and then people come along and say ok well that means every android tablet that comes out or every windows tablet that comes out is going to be crap. It isn't necessarily true. I have seen tablets on many platforms that look promising despite the shortcomings of other tablets.

 

[MythicFrost]

I am still not understanding...maybe it is because I am comparing my netbook. My windows 7 netbook gets similar battery life to my iPad. I get about 8-9 hours on the netbook and 10 hours on the iPad.

A netbook and a slate are quite different though, just think about how much the netbook weighs -- the slate will have a smaller battery.

Also doesn't windows 7 work really well with touch? It seemed very responsive to me in the video.

It works fine with touch, its just applications aren't designed for touch input -- the result is small buttons, controls that are hard to press, a menu structure designed for the mouse and keyboard, etc.

Why is the HP slate limited to how it can improve? You can put whatever software you want on it. The hardware will improve over time just like on the iPad. Developers can optimize software for it.

The limitation is the hardware, battery life, etc., you just can't get 10 hours of battery life on a slate running Windows, even 4 is asking too much -- without weighing 1.5k of course.

I've been skeptical of the HP slate from the get go, but we'll see.

 

[aduteau]

This tablet will never take off for the general consumer ... this will be for geeks who absolutely want a full fledged OS on a tablet ...

Where HP has an Ace up their sleeves is the tablet with Web OS ... that will be a good choice for the general public.

 

[NT1440]

Guys, HP has been saying for weeks if not months now that this WILL NOT BE A CONSUMER DEVICE.

So to all those saying it will never be a consumer hit, no duh.

 

[MRU]

Guys, HP has been saying for weeks if not months now that this WILL NOT BE A CONSUMER DEVICE.

So to all those saying it will never be a consumer hit, no duh.

Going on the functionality of the device - it will not be a device for the Enterprise market either. Hey instead of me getting my laptop out to demonstrate, (or heaven forbid my ipad), let me fart around on this HP Slate and struggle to scroll a page or work in any productive manner to demonstrate my high powered and in demand computer skills.

Fail not only for consumer, but I can not honestly see the enterprise market buying it either.

 

[NT1440]

Going on the functionality of the device - it will not be a device for the Enterprise market either. Hey instead of me getting my laptop out to demonstrate, (or heaven forbid my ipad), let me fart around on this HP Slate and struggle to scroll a page or work in any productive manner to demonstrate my high powered and in demand computer skills.

Fail not only for consumer, but I can not honestly see the enterprise market buying it either.

Business purchases are rarely about what is the best device for the job. Expect a good few millions sold, without any details on the terms of the deals.

 

[tekchic]

Once upon a time, long ago, I used to want a full OS on a tablet. I even had a 10" Toshiba laptop/tablet combo with flip-around touchscreen running XP Pro.

These days, I just use my iPad and remote into my workstation and get all my work done faster that way. I'm just not seeing the need for a full OS on a tablet like I thought would be cool five years ago. Just my humble 2 cents.

 

[Zmmyt]

is this supposed to be a joke?

 

[ibosie]

Gosh show some compassion for the poor souls in enterprise who will have this forced upon them by their IT departments - when all they really want is an iPad. Just like Blackberry - everyone wants an iPhone!

 

[vastoholic]

The boot-up time is pretty much irrelevant on an iPad as it is designed to be left in standby. The only time my iPad has been completely off is for a few seconds during the rare reboot I choose to do. I haven't used Windows 7 enough to know whether it can be used in the same way; Windows XP definitely couldn't.

Why wouldn't this be designed to be left in standby. All computers have to ability to go into sleep/standby mode to preserve battery. Why would this perform any different. My XP desktop never had problems going into/coming out of standby. Maybe I'm not understanding you completely or I'm not thinking of the right devices.

 

[blackNBUK]

Why wouldn't this be designed to be left in standby. All computers have to ability to go into sleep/standby mode to preserve battery. Why would this perform any different. My XP desktop never had problems going into/coming out of standby. Maybe I'm not understanding you completely or I'm not thinking of the right devices.

After a fresh boot, start-up from standby worked OK on my XP laptop. However after using it for a few days and getting a decent amount of stuff running the time to come out of standby got a lot longer. At times it was taking over a minute before it was ready for use again.

In comparison my iPad is always ready for use a second or two after pressing the power button. It doesn't matter how long ago the last reboot was or what I've been running recently. That's what I mean by being designed to be left in standby.

 

[ohaithar]

That thing looks ugly