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MRU

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Their sorry camera is why I went with an iPhone 5s...I was REALLY planning on the HTC one until I saw the reviews roll in condemning the 4mp camera. I take ALOT of pictures.

Yep its perfunctory at best. It does the job - but doesn't do a 'great' job.

I would consider HTC again but unless they drop the camera and put in a 16-20mp shooter I won't be swapping back.
 

Thepoobear

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Yep its perfunctory at best. It does the job - but doesn't do a 'great' job.

I would consider HTC again but unless they drop the camera and put in a 16-20mp shooter I won't be swapping back.

For what I do, I'd take an 8mp Ultra camera.
4mp, from what I've seen from the one, isn't acceptable.
 

MRU

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For what I do, I'd take an 8mp Ultra camera.
4mp, from what I've seen from the one, isn't acceptable.

Yep 8mp is a minimum and it's really where the HTC One should have started from, sadly it looks like the new one probably will be sticking with the 4mp version.

For me I shoot mostly landscapes and the 4mp just doesn't cut it for those. Which is a shame as otherwise the camera app itself, and even HTC Zoe's are fantastic - but the UP is the bottleneck.

Ironically if true that they are using the Snapdrago 805 - it supports upto 50mp sensors. We can only dream of HTC phone with the camera from a Lumia 1020. That would be heaven.
 

superstarmc

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I always use the shutter option and then select best shot. I've got some pretty good photos with that option.
 

Savor

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I think I might end up getting the Starmobile Knight as a backup. The best local branded phone here in the Philippines. The only glaring weakness I have with the HTC One is the camera. The battery is decent enough at 5-7 hr screen time depending on what I do with it. This is HTC's rehash year similar to what Apple does during an "s" year. The Starmobile Knight cost abt $250. Has the capacitive buttons outside the screen which I prefer. Looks like an iPhone 5 but taller and dual sim. But most importantly, an 18MP rear camera and 8MP front cam with autofocus for stellar selfie shots! That is the only thing that has bothered me with the One. Camera. I'm not going to upgrade to a One+ just for a incremental upgrade on camera. You won't find many smartphones for under $300 with an excellent camera.
 

Sensamic

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New rumor claims the new HTC One could have two rear cameras with different lenses.

Or it could be the fingerprint sensor.
 

rhinosrcool

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Yep 8mp is a minimum and it's really where the HTC One should have started from, sadly it looks like the new one probably will be sticking with the 4mp version.

That would really be a big mistake. The One had a lot going for it. However, everyone I've talk to complained about the camera. It's such an easy fix. Screw the "ultra" or "mega" pixels and put in a real camera!
 

Savor

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There was a time that whatever Android flagship would be compared to the latest iPhone. Whatever was a non-Apple became some sort if iPhone-killer. Last year, the comparisons became Android vs Android. It was a banner year for the platform. Alot of OEM's stepped up their game. I probably had about 13-14 devices I put on my watchlist ranging from the Huawei Ascend Mate or P6 to the Xperia ZR to the LG G2. You can pretty much pick any flagship or even midranger from last year and the experience would be satisfying enough.

This year, I expect more and more smartphones to drop in price with respectable specs. I'm a little bit hesistant getting a QHD (1440p) screen as it seems that is where most of successors from last year's flagships is where it is heading. Reason is most of my vids are in 720p resolution or lower. Even my photos are taken at 3 MP or less. You start to see more pixelation or grain since the screen magnifies the resolution to fit the screen. Try watching 240p or 360p on a 1080p screen and it looks hideous already.

I'm already content with phones from 2013. Even a Moto X would serve me well for 2+ years using a 720p screen. I think 1080p is already overkill and just wasting battery life, memory space, and more taxing on the GPU for negligible difference. I say 64 GB should be a bare minimum for 720p videos and 128 GB for 1080p. But now we are heading in the QHD era.
 

deluxeshredder

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Yep its perfunctory at best. It does the job - but doesn't do a 'great' job.

I would consider HTC again but unless they drop the camera and put in a 16-20mp shooter I won't be swapping back.

Even the best cameraphone optics can't truly justify 8-10 mp, let alone 16-20.

HTC has been wise to resist the marketing urge and put a quality 4mp sensor.
 

jrswizzle

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Even the best cameraphone optics can't truly justify 8-10 mp, let alone 16-20.

HTC has been wise to resist the marketing urge and put a quality 4mp sensor.

So if this is the case, I guess its the optics or the software that sucks.

My 5S, Nexus 5 and GS4 all ran circles around my HTC One as far as the camera goes. Sad too - other than the camera, the HTC One is near perfect.

If you're point is, the MP don't matter, that's fine. But if you're going to put it all on the optics/software, you have to make sure they deliver.

I think 8 MP is where smartphones should stay while beefing up the optics and software.

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There was a time that whatever Android flagship would be compared to the latest iPhone. Whatever was a non-Apple became some sort if iPhone-killer. Last year, the comparisons became Android vs Android. It was a banner year for the platform. Alot of OEM's stepped up their game. I probably had about 13-14 devices I put on my watchlist ranging from the Huawei Ascend Mate or P6 to the Xperia ZR to the LG G2. You can pretty much pick any flagship or even midranger from last year and the experience would be satisfying enough.

This year, I expect more and more smartphones to drop in price with respectable specs. I'm a little bit hesistant getting a QHD (1440p) screen as it seems that is where most of successors from last year's flagships is where it is heading. Reason is most of my vids are in 720p resolution or lower. Even my photos are taken at 3 MP or less. You start to see more pixelation or grain since the screen magnifies the resolution to fit the screen. Try watching 240p or 360p on a 1080p screen and it looks hideous already.

I'm already content with phones from 2013. Even a Moto X would serve me well for 2+ years using a 720p screen. I think 1080p is already overkill and just wasting battery life, memory space, and more taxing on the GPU for negligible difference. I say 64 GB should be a bare minimum for 720p videos and 128 GB for 1080p. But now we are heading in the QHD era.

Great points - the display resolution race is outpacing the storage race.

Which sucks.

As devices get more powerful, with larger more pixel dense displays, the natural desire is to do more on them. Unfortunately, we're still held back by the 16/32/64 storage bumps. Even if you can get an SD card on there, it doesn't compare to running apps and media from the built in storage.

I'm hoping 2014 is the year 32 GB becomes the standard in high-end devices. Leave 16 GB to the Nexus lines and other low-mid tier (price) devices.

This is an area where HTC stepped up last year. Hopefully other OEMs take note.
 

MRU

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I keep hearing rumors that this might be a 10mp shooter and/or support dual flash. Either option would be a welcome addition I guess.

We live in hope. :) I just want to be able to take decent outdoor landscape shots without them appearing

1) over exposed 2) overly compressed 3) lacking in SOOOO much detail that it hurts
 

Sensamic

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I keep hearing rumors that this might be a 10mp shooter and/or support dual flash. Either option would be a welcome addition I guess.

Remember the rumor saying that the 4 megapixel UltraPixel camera in the new One was set in stone.
 
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