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Of course it's my opinion. If you read my post I actually did say "in my opinion." HTC one feels quite light as well and definitely fragile. It might have an aluminum body, but it doesn't feel quite as well made...in my opinion ;)

Complete package meaning hardware and software. See my original post and this thread: https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/1573057/

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Let's cut through all the crap and get down to the real issue here.

OP wanted to try something different, but wasn't happy if the new and 'different' handset didn't run exactly like an iPhone.

He didn't want to put an ounce of effort into learning a new OS, so he ditched the One and said it was a disappointing experience, while praising his new iPhone 5.
 
Let's cut through all the crap and get down to the real issue here.

OP wanted to try something different, but wasn't happy if the new and 'different' handset didn't run exactly like an iPhone.

He didn't want to put an ounce of effort into learning a new OS, so he ditched the One and said it was a disappointing experience, while praising his new iPhone 5.


It didn't need to run exactly like the iphone. I just wanted it to be nearly as user friendly. It was too much of a compromise. Please read my posts and you wil see it had nothing to do with "learning a new OS." I just disliked the OS. That's the real issue. :rolleyes: I have an iphone 4 by the way.
 
I didn't it to run exactly like the iphone. I just wanted it to be as user friendly. That's the real issue. :rolleyes: I have an iphone 4 by the way.

The point he's making is that every one of your issues could have been easily resolved with a little effort. Effort you weren't willing to make. So don't get upset if people point that out.
 
The thing is, some people are reluctant to change and adapt.

The fact that he went out a bought the One nullifies this argument he was very much open to change.

Let's cut through all the crap and get down to the real issue here.

OP wanted to try something different, but wasn't happy if the new and 'different' handset didn't run exactly like an iPhone.

He didn't want to put an ounce of effort into learning a new OS, so he ditched the One and said it was a disappointing experience, while praising his new iPhone 5.

Faulty logic. He wanted a viable alternative to the iPhone not an exact replica. Hence why he bought a phone from a completely different platform in the first place.

The point he's making is that every one of your issues could have been easily resolved with a little effort. Effort you weren't willing to make. So don't get upset if people point that out.

Herein lies the issue with Android for some folks. Effort to bring it up to usable par. Out of the box experience can be significantly lacking unlike iOS (or other platforms). For some its an opportunity to customize/tailor...for others it's just a headache.
 
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The point he's making is that every one of your issues could have been easily resolved with a little effort. Effort you weren't willing to make. So don't get upset if people point that out.


Not upset. Just trying to explain why I don't like the phone and android users seem to be taking it personal. Enough of this spending more time/effort business. That is not the solution. Not everyone has to like the android phone.

Please explain how the issues I was having could be resolved:

How can you fix the native email app to search email servers?

How can you fix the location of the home button?

How can you set up the email so the text and images fit perfectly on the screen every time?

Please don't tell me to use gmail which I don't like or to download some obscure app.

How can you make the OS work smoother and less finicky?

How can you get HTC to provide good customer support?

Not to mention not facetime and imessage. Yes I know they are native to apple, but they were just one more reason to go back to the iphone.

How can you sync emails and contacts over that don't sync like they are supposed to?
 
The point he's making is that every one of your issues could have been easily resolved with a little effort. Effort you weren't willing to make. So don't get upset if people point that out.

Maybe the OP didn't want to make the effort, felt it wasn't worth the hassle. It's the OP's decision, nothing wrong with that. Personally, I get what the OP is saying as I felt that way too. Maybe you can customize android and have it work better than iOS but I didn't really feel like investing that kind of time.

And those that keep saying its simple, easy to use out of the box lol it's not the case for everything. I hated how there wasn't a single control for volume and sounds. You can mute the sound but some apps still had sounds and keyboard clicks.
 
Herein lies the issue with Android for some folks. Effort to bring it up to usable par. Out of the box experience can be significantly lacking unlike iOS (or other platforms) does.

I completely agree. But it's not 2007 anymore either. Smartphone users are more savvy then before. They are asking for more capabilities than Apple is offering today. If iOS 7 gets all these new whiz bang features, it will not be as user friendly either.
 
I completely agree. But it's not 2007 anymore either. Smartphone users are more savvy then before. They are asking for more capabilities than Apple is offering today. If iOS 7 gets all these new whiz bang features, it will not be as user friendly either.

I think they will be able to maintain it's user friendly interface while adding more capabilities. After all, that's what apple is all about.
 
Please don't tell me to use gmail which I don't like or to download some obscure app.

When you want to do something on your iPhone it cant do natively or something you would like it to do better, something simple like, oh I dunno, zoom while recording a video or download a new ringtone, dont you download an app? :rolleyes:
 
Not upset. Just trying to explain why I don't like the phone and android users seem to be taking it personal. Enough of this spending more time/effort business. That is not the solution. Not everyone has to like the android phone.

Please explain how the issues I was having could be resolved:

How can you fix the native email app to search email servers?

How can you fix the location of the home button?

How can you set up the email so the text and images fit perfectly on the screen every time?

Please don't tell me to use gmail which I don't like or to download some obscure app.

How can you make the OS work smoother and less finicky?

How can you get HTC to provide good customer support?

Not to mention not facetime and imessage. Yes I know they are native to apple, but they were just one more reason to go back to the iphone.

How can you sync emails and contacts over that don't sync like they are supposed to?

Some of those issues require downloading better apps, im not sure why you would want to use the standard apps when there are much better ones available. If you want to get an android phone and have it work perfectly out of the box you should just stick with iOS, android requires a little bit of effort but the rewards are are great, if you can be bothered. I use Maildroid pro, Whatsapp, Gtalk and sweeptowake to solve many of your issues.
 
When you want to do something on your iPhone it cant do natively or something you would like it to do better, something simple like, oh I dunno, zoom while recording a video or download a new ringtone, dont you download an app? :rolleyes:

Those types of features are not that important to me. Yes I do download apps, but they are not necessary for basic features of the phone to work well. 95% of what I do consists of phone, email, text message, internet, and occasionally pics/video. Apple seems to integrate all those features very well and I have not seen any third party apps that work as well as they do.
 
Some of those issues require downloading better apps, im not sure why you would want to use the standard apps when there are much better ones available. If you want to get an android phone and have it work perfectly out of the box you should just stick with iOS, android requires a little bit of effort but the rewards are are great, if you can be bothered. I use Maildroid pro, Whatsapp, Gtalk and sweeptowake to solve many of your issues.

Thanks for maildroid, I just downloaded the free version and so far it seems great. I will give it a week or two, but if it works as good as it looks I will get the pro version, though $18 is a little steep.
 
I don't think people (or Fandroids lol) really care you weren't happy with the One, but I tend to agree 24 hours isn't really enough time jumping from one to the other and getting a good feel of what it can/can't do. I remember the initial launch of the iPhone and I was coming from Blackberry, various Windows phones and other smartphones out there and I initially HATED the iPhone. Wanted to chuck it after 24 hours. But I did give it just till the end of the 30 days then went back to my rock solid BB. It wasn't until a few updates that I went back to the iPhone and even then I wanted to toss it. Once I got use to everything it was great. Not to mention the updates were always solid and added more and more features I was looking for. I got no dog in this fight (had just about every smartphone pre-iPhone and since have had every iPhone since), but I think if anyone is thinking of jumping ship (from apple to android or from android to apple or whatever) I would say give it a little time then 24 hours, I don't think you can really get a good feel out of the box for any system Apple or not. Of course I will get a good feel for a 5S out of the box since I have had iPhones for years but that doesn't mean that everyone coming to an iPhone for the first time will not have some apprehension and buyers remorse when it doesn't function the same way their previous smart phone works. I have known some people coming from some really crappy smartphone not like the iPhone at first and texting me like crazy how confused they are and how to do things but after a few days or week they love it.

Anyway, long story short, you weren't happy and only you know what you are looking for and you think 24 hours was plenty of time for you to make that call. You pulled the trigger stronger then I did. I'm still debating even ordering the HTC One (though the more I read and see about it the more I REALLY want one)
 
Those types of features are not that important to me. Yes I do download apps, but they are not necessary for basic features of the phone to work well. 95% of what I do consists of phone, email, text message, internet, and occasionally pics/video. Apple seems to integrate all those features very well and I have not seen any third party apps that work as well as they do.

Ok, then why did you feel the need to switch to Android? Must be something lacking on the iPhone. Some things like being able to swap keyboards, messaging apps, pop in an SD card with music and movies etc...may not be important to you but are to others. Depends on your needs in a phone.
 
Turning it on obviously isn't the issue. It's waking it up. It's the fact that the power button fuctions like the home button on the iphone. Not the same as reaching over and hitting the home button with one finger to wake up the phone. I do it all the time when my iphone is sitting next to me. You don't have to pick up the phone and reach on top of the phone. Even when holding the phone it's still easier to just press the home button with your thumb which is what I use for most quick selections....much more natural position in line with your natural grip. This is certainly only one of many reasons why I returned the phone. This thread also does a pretty good job of explaining why I didn't like the phone: https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/1573057/

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No it just wasn't the phone for me...period. I felt it was inferior for practical reasons. Keeping the phone longer would not have solved the problems I encountered or make me like the phone more. When I get a new phone I want to feel like it's an upgrade and not a downgrade. I didn't need any more time to figure that out. I'm faily tech savy. This thread might help: https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/1573057/

i cant believe you're getting jumped for having a different opinion. I agree about the home button issue as I used the one x for about 3 weeks and still didn't get used to it. I see why people like the One but I wasn't all that impressed. The camera was not that great and my iphone 5 took better pictures inside AT&T than the one. Also the default browser was no faster than the 5 and pages had to reload everytime I hit the back button. I'm not sure what the best browser on android is but hopefully there is something better than the stock browser. I'm gong to wait and try out the s4. It has a home button and I think it would be an easier transition coming from the iPhone.
 
Let's cut through all the crap and get down to the real issue here.

OP wanted to try something different, but wasn't happy if the new and 'different' handset didn't run exactly like an iPhone.

He didn't want to put an ounce of effort into learning a new OS, so he ditched the One and said it was a disappointing experience, while praising his new iPhone 5.

My thoughts exactly.
 
Threads like this really make me chuckle. The fact that that the op is convinced that his dated iphone 4 is a better option than the One is hilarious in itself.

I still have my 4 and my rundown inspire 4G could run circles around that laggy piece of crap.
 
Threads like this really make me chuckle. The fact that that the op is convinced that his dated iphone 4 is a better option than the One is hilarious in itself.

I still have my 4 and my rundown inspire 4G could run circles around that laggy piece of crap.

It's become clearer that this is only a troll thread.
 
I only read your initial post, but from your complaints it seems like you did not spend enough time with the phone.
 
I stopped reading after "returned within 24 hours" ... Obviously this is a apple fanboy post. The phone was probably his dad's phone and by returned he meant gave it back him in the morning and went back to his hand me down iPhone.
 
I remembered my first MacBook a week after Apple switched to Intel Processors. Coming from Windows for years, I was ready to return it on my first 24 hours of OSX Tiger use. It takes some time to learn some new stuff. Heck, I couldn't even find the uninstall button and I thought it was so unintuitive. After a few weeks, I came to find out that its faster for me to just drag a program to trash to uninstall it as opposed to using an uninstaller program. I just have to relearn a habit.

About iOS to Android, yes it'll take more than 24 hours to get comfortable with it and definitely more than 5 minutes playing with it in Bestbuy to make any reasonable judgement about it. In my opinion...
 
Let's cut through all the crap and get down to the real issue here.

OP wanted to try something different, but wasn't happy if the new and 'different' handset didn't run exactly like an iPhone.

He didn't want to put an ounce of effort into learning a new OS, so he ditched the One and said it was a disappointing experience, while praising his new iPhone 5.

I know it's unfathomable that people might not actually like Android?
 
I know it's unfathomable that people might not actually like Android?

C'mon, the OP clearly could have solved all of his issues very easily if he truly wanted to give it a chance. If you spend less than 24 hours with a phone, you probably are just not comfortable with it. Having owned every generation iphone, I know for a fact after 24 hours I would go back to it. At the very least, he should have spent a week with it and then made his decision.
 
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