HTC One X (It was meant to be)

[matttye]

This is the ole clique within clique routine.

Hey if you think that Samsung is the best Android OEM then hey good for you; clearly you have the Android masses backing you.

However, I tend to think that those of us with HTC or another Android OEM are the Android purist.

I mean it PLAIN to anyone that Samsung is just a big copycat with inferior hardware trying to play Apple in the world of Android.

To me Samsung doesn't represent the essence of Android but are just using the platform as a weapon against Apple.

By that I mean, they don't really care about Andrioid but merely only want to copy Apple.

I already stated my opinion in the OP.

This is an HTC thread primarily, if you'd like to join the other SG3 sheep, there are plenty of other threads for that already.

You're talking about this like it's a massive life choice. Android purist, essence of Android? What a load of old tosh.

I bought the S3 because it's the best phone IMO, nothing to do with whether Samsung are copying Apple or whatever.

Smart stay, smart alerts, direct call are all features that Samsung came up with and they're pretty useful.

 

[IO01]

I once thought about getting the HTC One X. I like how the screen is non-pentile. However, because there is only 32GB of internal storage and there is no Micro-SD slot, I removed the HTC One X from consideration. (Watching videos is one of my primary uses of a smartphone, so for me, having a lot of storage is a must.)

 

[Sedrick]

I once thought about getting the HTC One X. I like how the screen is non-pentile. However, because there is only 32GB of internal storage and there is no Micro-SD slot, I removed the HTC One X from consideration. (Watching videos is one of my primary uses of a smartphone, so for me, having a lot of storage is a must.)

Here in the states the One X only has 16gigs on board. Something like 10gigs usable. That's pathetic. I was seriously pumped about getting it when it came out but there always seems to be something in these (otherwise) fantastic phones that's a deal killer.

That said, I'm still considering it... but damn, that storage...

 

[IO01]

Here in the states the One X only has 16gigs on board. Something like 10gigs usable. That's pathetic. I was seriously pumped about getting it when it came out but there always seems to be something in these (otherwise) fantastic phones that's a deal killer.

I forgot about the US variant having 16GB. That's even worse.

You're right that there always seems to be something that's a deal killer in these smartphones. Looking at the ones that I've considered:
- upcoming iPhone: micro SD slot not likely (though one can probably get up to 64GB internal storage), screen resolution rumored to be 1152x640 (I want a 1280x720 screen)
- Samsung Galaxy S III: Pentile screen, 64GB variant still not available
- HTC One X: only 16/32GB internal storage with no micro SD slot
- Sony Xperia S: only 32GB internal storage with no micro SD slot

I've read from other forums that the Pentile screen on the Galaxy S III isn't as bad as on earlier phones. I'll have to see for myself. If the pentile screen is something that I can live with, then I'll probably get the Galaxy S III when the 64GB is finally released (64GB internal storage + 64GB micro SD card, yum! )

 

[golf1410]

HTC doesn't put a lot of effort on the battery. It drains so fast. I don't know it is Andriod problem or design problem. I had HTC Evo view tablet before. Mine was left off from ICS update with under a year of releasing tablet. HTC fans are leaving. HTC revenue is continually decrease. I think HTC is going down.

 

[chrmjenkins]

I think AT&T has a non-advertised agreement with Apple to not offer any phone with more than 16GB built-in storage. Other carriers have android phones with 32GB internal.

 

[blackhand1001]

I think AT&T has a non-advertised agreement with Apple to not offer any phone with more than 16GB built-in storage. Other carriers have android phones with 32GB internal.

Pretty sure the s3 has 32gb version on at&t

 

[chrmjenkins]

Pretty sure the s3 has 32gb version on at&t

I believe they are 16 GB with microSD support.

 

[blackhand1001]

I believe they are 16 GB with microSD support.

No its weird, they really do offer a 32gb internal storage version.

Edit: Looks like at&t only does carry the 16gb internal, but carries the red one instead of the 32gb.

 

[Wide opeN]

OP will be back to the iPhone soon enough.

Not so sure this time...

I mean I'll always have a place for the iPhone somewhere in my heart.

At this time though, Apple isn't innovating enough for my taste. Do I expect them to overall the whole OS... not neccessarily but to show that you're at least somewhat listening (not an Apple strong suit) would be reassuring.

I'm starting to get a since from Apple similar to Motorola, Nokia, and countless others during their heyday and I ABSOLUTELY have a disdain for when corporations stop listening or ignore.

At this point for me, the Pros of being bored outweigh the Cons of any concerns I have about Android.

 

[batting1000]

Apple isn't innovating enough for my taste.

...and HTC is?

 

[Wide opeN]

HTC G1
Motorola Droid
HTC Nexus One
Samsung Nexus S
Samsung Galaxy Nexus

Those are the purists phones IMO.

I can appreciate those selections.

 

[Wide opeN]

Inferior hardware? You mean the chipsets that go into the other Android and Apple products?

No, I mean the ALWAYS cheap plastics they use.

Apple, Motorola, HTC (the leading smartphone manufactures in other words) all include things like Poly carbonate, Kevlar, Glass, Aluminum, etc...

Samsung!? Not so much. Plastic is what they do well.

 

[chrmjenkins]

...and HTC is?

I don't know that they're innovating, but they're making the most beautiful non-apple phone out there. The One X outclasses any other android device out there, especially the plastic GSIII. My wife has an international version and its great. The screen is beautiful, even better than the iPhone 4/4S. The reasons I haven't converted are the domestic version is only 16 GB, commitment to ecosystem and availability of updates (even though I like Sense 4.0).

 

[Wide opeN]

Here in the states the One X only has 16gigs on board. Something like 10gigs usable. That's pathetic. I was seriously pumped about getting it when it came out but there always seems to be something in these (otherwise) fantastic phones that's a deal killer.

That said, I'm still considering it... but damn, that storage...

Agreed, but I alleviated some of that with Google Play Music.

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HTC doesn't put a lot of effort on the battery. It drains so fast. I don't know it is Andriod problem or design problem. I had HTC Evo view tablet before. Mine was left off from ICS update with under a year of releasing tablet. HTC fans are leaving. HTC revenue is continually decrease. I think HTC is going down.

This very well could be the case, I hope not as I think they still make the best Android phones.

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I think AT&T has a non-advertised agreement with Apple to not offer any phone with more than 16GB built-in storage. Other carriers have android phones with 32GB internal.

Ah, ha, this would make total sense.

I can honestly say though of the the 5 iPhones (every years) I've only bought the 16GB, so for me it's a non-issue.

However, an SD Slot still would have been nice or more onboard storage.

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...and HTC is?

No, but Google is with ICS and JB right!? Right!!!

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they're making the most beautiful non-apple phone out there. The One X outclasses any other android device out there, especially the plastic GSIII.

This!!!!!!

 

[Wrathwitch]

No, I mean the ALWAYS cheap plastics they use.

Apple, Motorola, HTC (the leading smartphone manufactures in other words) all include things like Poly carbonate, Kevlar, Glass, Aluminum, etc...

Samsung!? Not so much. Plastic is what they do well.

Wrong.....

Just about every article around has been giving the upcoming Samsung Galaxy S III generally good reviews except for one downside: the casing. Everyone, including us, were convinced that the Galaxy S III was using a plastic case, but we just got word from Samsung that the phone is better than you think. There had been some confusion over the Samsung Galaxy S III casing, but the word straight from Samsung is that the case is in fact made of polycarbonate, not just regular plastic.


The word that we got straight from Samsung was that the Galaxy S III casing is in fact polycarbonate, but we wanted to make sure that mean the entire case, including the battery cover, and it took a bit of time for the confirmation to come back, but here it is direct from Samsung:


Polycarbonate is used on the battery cover. Polycarbonate is lightweight, solid and is already being widely used in the mobile industry. It was chosen as the best material to represent the minimal organic design of GALAXY S III. Using three layers of high quality, pure and clear polycarbonate, not only is the phone’s aesthetic elevated, but the durability and scratch resistance is maximized.
This is a pretty big deal because once you get past the flowery marketing language given by Samsung, the basic fact is that the case is polycarbonate and not plastic.


Polycarbonate is one of those strange "premium materials" because it's not always apparent by sight and touch that it is higher quality. With glass and metal, we know automatically that we're dealing with premium materials. But, polycarbonate can look and feel just like regular plastic, even though it is far stronger and more durable.


From the research we've done, polycarbonate can be as much as 300 times stronger than average plastic. Unfortunately, the hardness scales and various impact resistance scales are different for plastics/polycarbonate, than things like glass or metal, so it's difficult to get measured comparisons of polycarbonate and say Gorilla Glass, aluminum, or the LiquidMetal that Apple is said to be using in the upcoming iPhone. However, we were able to get some numbers that were pretty interesting.


One material that can be measured on the same scale as polycarbonate is the Kevlar fiber that is famously used on the Motorola RAZR. Depending on the type of clear polycarbonate used in the Galaxy S III casing, it should be harder, but possibly not quite as strong as the Kevlar fiber. Clear polycarbonate can have tensile strength in the range of 10,000-10,500, flexural strength between 12,000 and 17,000, and compressive strength around 11,000; meanwhile, Kevlar fiber has a tensile strength around 12,500, flexural strength around 17,000, and compressive strength around 16,000. However, polycarbonate does rate slightly higher on the Rockwell Hardness scale at R118 compared to R115 for the Kevlar fiber, and polycarbonate is also a bit higher on IZOD impact resistance.


Tensile strength and flexural strength are very similar, and determine how much a material can bend before developing localized deformations or breaks in the material. Compressive strength is the measure of a material's ability to withstand crushing force. It's reasonable to expect that polycarbonate won't have the compressive strength or scratch resistance of various metals that can be used in device construction, but it certainly could provide tensile/flexural strength on par with those materials.


So, all in all it looks like the Samsung Galaxy S III will have a much stronger, durable, and scratch-resistant surface than we all expected. It may not be the strongest material available, and given that it still can look similar plastic, it may not be the most visually impressive material available, but it should be better than we expected, and certainly far better than standard plastic. Of course, we know that looks play as big a part in device construction as many other factors, so it remains to be seen if the "plasticky" look of the Galaxy S III can be overcome with the added strength of the polycarbonate casing in the eyes of consumers.



***taken from: http://www.phonearena.com/news/Conf...II-is-polycarbonate-not-plain-plastic_id30304

 

[chrmjenkins]

^ and that's all next to meaningless as the gripe is one concerning aesthetics, not durability.

 

[Vegastouch]

No, I mean the ALWAYS cheap plastics they use.

Apple, Motorola, HTC (the leading smartphone manufactures in other words) all include things like Poly carbonate, Kevlar, Glass, Aluminum, etc...

Samsung!? Not so much. Plastic is what they do well.

The plastic on the GS3 is polycarbonate so it isnt just crap plastic. And as always, i have a case on that as well so it dont matter what the back has on it for me.

 

[Mac.World]

This is the ole clique within clique routine.

Hey if you think that Samsung is the best Android OEM then hey good for you; clearly you have the Android masses backing you.

However, I tend to think that those of us with HTC or another Android OEM are the Android purist.

I mean it PLAIN to anyone that Samsung is just a big copycat with inferior hardware trying to play Apple in the world of Android.

To me Samsung doesn't represent the essence of Android but are just using the platform as a weapon against Apple.

By that I mean, they don't really care about Andrioid but merely only want to copy Apple.

I already stated my opinion in the OP.

This is an HTC thread primarily, if you'd like to join the other SG3 sheep, there are plenty of other threads for that already.

LOL. This is the first time I have seen someone use the term SG3 sheep.

But here's a thought about copycats. See if you can tell which phone i am describing:

Minimalist design
"retina" hd screen
Small Integrated battery
Dual core cpu
Unibody construction

Hint: not the iphone.
And interestingly enough, while Samsung has brought us many cool new features, like pop up play, HTC has given us???

 

[onthecouchagain]

No, but Google is with ICS and JB right!? Right!!!

As is Samsung with Smart Stay, Direct Dial via proximity sensor, NFC-tags, tilt to scroll, Pop-out play, and a slew of other novel features like sharing pictures as they're taken via Wi-Fi with other GSIII phones you choose. At this point in time, the competition is innovating more. They're offering more hardware choices and pushing for higher spec standards. And software wise, there's just no two ways about it. All of Apple's new features for iOS 6 are bringing them up to par with features that already exist elsewhere, and in some cases, have existed for years.

But you know, in Batting's world, only Apple innovates.

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...and HTC is?

Lolz. This argument again.

Again, HTC isn't regarded by the industry and by its fanatics as "the most innovative tech company in the world," which is something Apple themselves and Apple fans constantly tout about Apple. If Apple wants to retain that title, and if fans such as yourself want to keep claiming that they are the leading innovators, they have to keep innovating.

Oh, Batting... you live in an awesome world.

 

[nickchallis92]

Batting is hilarious. According to him, apple have made the perfect phone and it literally has no faults.

all features on other phones which the iPhone doesn't have are worthless

 

[Wide opeN]

After several days with the 1X, I can say that Android is starting to feel more like home each day.

I'm starting to have that feeling I had when I canceled my landline in November, 2005... "why did I wait so long"!?

Is Android perfect, is everything on Android better than iOS, am I done with the iPhone forever!? NO!!!

However, it's like Obama in relation to George W. Bush, the former couldn't have success/exist without the latter.

This is EXACTLY the case with Android and iOS. If iOS had the flexibility/current innovation of Android baked in you wouldn't hear a word about Android.

BUT as it stands iOS says all that is needed is minor refinement BOTH at the software and hardware level.

HOWEVER, what I say as a FIVE time iPhone owner is that iOS and the iPhone (especially, if the rumored iPhone is true) aren't interesting me currently and that to ME is a HUGE problem.

I won't expound but I think Apple is on the verge of losing a great portion of MINDSHARE in the current smartphone climate.

Does that impend doom!? Probably not, however, this Subforums existence on an iPhone forum speaks volumes about the CURRENT state of affairs in the world of iOS.

 

[cynics]

People don't like the plastic feel. Plastic feels cheap. Polycarbonate is plastic, while it maybe durable and solid it still feels like plastic. While obviously plastic is much more durable then glass, it doesn't feel that way.

Very simple marketing, people relate weight and flexibility to "build quality".

 

[Vegastouch]

People don't like the plastic feel. Plastic feels cheap. Polycarbonate is plastic, while it maybe durable and solid it still feels like plastic. While obviously plastic is much more durable then glass, it doesn't feel that way.

Very simple marketing, people relate weight and flexibility to "build quality".

I dont think as many people feel this way as you think. Only an idiot would relate quality to the weight of the device. I like that my GS3 is lighter than the tiny iPhone. The plastic feel you are talking about is IMO no big deal.

EVERY phone i have gets a case put on it and i also recently bought two battery covers for it if i want to lose the case which is always for better grip. One has real leather on the back and the other has metal on the back so this is irrelevent imo.

 

[cynics]

I dont think as many people feel this way as you think. Only an idiot would relate quality to the weight of the device. I like that my GS3 is lighter than the tiny iPhone. The plastic feel you are talking about is IMO no big deal.

EVERY phone i have gets a case put on it and i also recently bought two battery covers for it if i want to lose the case which is always for better grip. One has real leather on the back and the other has metal on the back so this is irrelevent imo.

When someone says "it feels too plasticy", if they aren't referring to the description of most plastics (light and flexible) what are they referring too? Especially when comparing to the glass (heavy and not flexible) of an iPhone.