MP 7,1 Humiliated 7.1

[exoticSpice]

As well as my 7,1, I still have a perfectly working 2010 5,1. And, there is no reason to upgrade the OS beyond Mojave. Evrything since then is mostly about Apple control, their own walled garden, T2 chip, shareholders, lack of user control etc. The 5,1 is certainly not a museum piece and certainly continues to work well for pro audio, film not so much becuase of the lack of GPU grunt. In pro audio, all of the apps, drivers, DAWs etc continue to work very well & without all that so-called 'security' BS, eg, at various times recently when Apple servers went down and was revealed just to what extent Apple spies on all of our installs. Then there's the more recent bricking the hardware and needing to recover by using yet another Apple mac and specialised software etc.

A clean 5,1 + Mojave is still a very nice setup indeed.

Every Mac OS since OS X 10.8 Mountain Lion(GateKeeper came out then), Apple can "spy" on you. That is why I have Lulu. I can see incoming and outgoing network traffic. Apple's security BS can be ignored by the user even on macOS 12 both on Intel and M1 Macs.

Yes, updates that brick your Mac can be annoying that's why backups are important. Every OS update has the chance to can brick your computer, it could be Windows or Linux. Apple's DFU app to restore a bricked Mac is easy to use. You should take a look at the Linux and Windows forums sometimes and see the countless bugs and issues. Being only on a Mac forum would make you think only only macOS has problems with updates.

12.3 made some big changes to Metal. Apple introduced Metal AMD, M1 Blender support. 12.3.1 also fixed the bricking issue on bricking M1 MBP 2021 that had replaced logic boards as well as restoring AMD GPU speed on Mac Pro. Now Apple could do a better of testing the OS, that I have no arguments on.

Apple M1 Mac's are not for everyone as they dropped Intel only apps, plugins and 32 bit support but macOS is still the same as it was in Mojave. Apart from those issues I have control over my Mac in macOS 12, I can install from where-ever I want and I can still boot into other OS natively such as Linux on my 16" Intel.

You can boot into other OS's on M1 Mac. If Apple wanted control they would have blocked custom kernels and forced only App-Store installation of apps on the new chips in macOS 11.


TLDR: If you disagree, well apart from 32bit support, Intel only apps/drivers/plugins I don't see how macOS 12 is any different than macOS 10.14(Mojave)?

 

[EvilMonk]

I got a MacBook Pro M1 Max 32/32/1Tb and stilll enjoy my Mac Pro 2012 12 cores I tweak every now and then more…

 

[orionquest]

TLDR: If you disagree, well apart from 32bit support, Intel only apps/drivers/plugins I don't see how macOS 12 is any different than macOS 10.14(Mojave)?

Meh the UI change in Big Sur and Monterey don't work for me. I'm not on retina screens so all those "puffy" UI elements just are a waste of space and feels inelegant. 10.14 feels more optimal and streamlined. But honestly nothing after Mojave has brought anything to the OS that is very useful for my workflow. I might be on this version for a while.

As for the next MacPro. I'm not very hopeful. I suspect they will continue down this line of limiting internal expansion or 3rd hardware. Basically what I feel will be a smaller footprint desktop then current, with only a couple of internal PCI slots, and no RAM or Hardrive storage updates allowed (only purchased upfront). And a Hollywood budget type pricing to match for this privilege.

But who know's they could surprise us.

 

[EvilMonk]

The Mac Studio is highly workflow dependent - Those who use R3D Raw for example and can have a beefy Mac Pro, it's a really big performance gap still.

If you use Pro Res or H265 however, the Mac Studio has the hardware accelerators that specifically help that.

You forgot you can add eGPUs to the Mac Pro 7,1… it gets always more powerful ?‍♂️