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I’m an Apple fanboy however I don’t hate any Android phones.

The reason I like Apple products in general is because of their ecosystem. Having various Apple products and how they can interact with each other is actually very beneficial to me on a professional and personal level.

I could make a list a mile long all the features and options no other manufacturer has available but I’m sure many of you already know this.

The iPhone alone? Meh it does what I need it too but I wouldn’t argue it can be limiting at times.
 
What is this fascination with trying to justify using Apple or Android products to others out of the blue? I can see if someone ask you what are the top 5 reasons you like brand X?

It doesn't matter if no one else gets why you like brand X, Y, or Z. The only thing that matters, is you liking brand X, Y, or Z.

We aren't on some school playground trying to one-up each other. We are supposed to be grown adults buying products because we like and need them in our lives.
But it's a discussion forum and it's fun besides.
 
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It’s always funny when one cult judges another cult for “not seeing the light”.

Tried Android years ago and got bored of it when nothing was ever updated. Went to Windows Phone and enjoyed it a lot but the CEO let it die. Have no problems with my X or Apple in general. It just works. Would rather chew broken glass than go back to Android or Google.
 
Haven’t ventured into android for a few years, but my gripe back then was the quality of apps were just not the same compared to iOS. Maybe that has changed, but I’d rather not take the chance. Also, Customizing is really not my thing - not really interested in changing the system font to comic sans.
 
The reason I like Apple products in general is because of their ecosystem. Having various Apple products and how they can interact with each other is actually very beneficial to me on a professional and personal level.
It's great that Apple gives you what you want and that their ecosystem works for you. It just never worked for me. I had to find other ways. Apple never made it so I could use any of their services with my 1999-2006 era PowerMacs and PowerBooks.

I also find that what Apple offers tends to be neither what I need, what I want, or very often both.

In short, Apple's ecosystem is neither an advantage that draws me to Apple nor anything that prevents me from leaving. Other than iMessage, which I can ditch for SMS/MMS at any time (no, I don't send video) I just do not use it.
 
I had the note 7, loved it. Sent it back after all the issues. I also had an iPhone . I liked both. The iPhone is just simpler to use. I like the s-pen on the notes.

I now have the note 8, and I like it, and the iPhone 7+. I think I like my iPhone apps better. Both are great devices I guess it’s just a matter of preference. I go back and forth between the two. I upgrade my iPhone yearly , but usually keep my Samsung devices for a while. I had a pixel phone and absolutely hated it.
 
It's great that Apple gives you what you want and that their ecosystem works for you. It just never worked for me. I had to find other ways. Apple never made it so I could use any of their services with my 1999-2006 era PowerMacs and PowerBooks.

I also find that what Apple offers tends to be neither what I need, what I want, or very often both.

In short, Apple's ecosystem is neither an advantage that draws me to Apple nor anything that prevents me from leaving. Other than iMessage, which I can ditch for SMS/MMS at any time (no, I don't send video) I just do not use it.

I’ll momentarily switch every few years just to have a better understanding of the competition.

Android/Google offer many similar services but I find Apples much more streamlined for my work load. Admittedly mainly due to MacOS and Apples ability to alter their desktop OS at the metal to accommodate their mobile OS and hardware.

For a couple smaller examples that I personally find invaluable and just have that 'devils in the details' feel....

SMS/iMessage to all mobile devices and Mac.

iCloud device calling at a carrier level - watch, iMac, and iPad can all make and receive phone calls even with the iPhone off (dead)

Handoff - used it right now to transfer from my phone to my Mac for easier typing.

Full resolution photos are downloaded to my Mac for editing and/or safe keeping without any intervention from me. And photos are available in a shared library across all my devices.

Universal Clipboard - copy text or graphics on my iPhone and when I paste on the Mac its there

Shared desktops - self explanatory, desktops will sync on Macs. Now that I'm doing more work with video I disabled this because it would use iCloud space and I use the desktop for scratch but some files can be 50gb so. Cool if you keep a clean desktop though.

Mail Drop for large attachments (5gb) - just like using a cloud service but it does everything for you natively.

Instant hotspot - basically turning on a hotspot remotely from the iCloud device that needs the internet.

Sharing wifi passwords with contacts - I like this because I don't actually need to tell someone my wifi password, its just securely autofills.

That is just a small sample of stuff I'm currently doing/using and obviously aren't features everyone needs/wants but unfortunately for me I find it difficult to move away from the iPhone because of those features and dozens more.
 
I’ll momentarily switch every few years just to have a better understanding of the competition.

Android/Google offer many similar services but I find Apples much more streamlined for my work load. Admittedly mainly due to MacOS and Apples ability to alter their desktop OS at the metal to accommodate their mobile OS and hardware.

For a couple smaller examples that I personally find invaluable and just have that 'devils in the details' feel....

SMS/iMessage to all mobile devices and Mac.

iCloud device calling at a carrier level - watch, iMac, and iPad can all make and receive phone calls even with the iPhone off (dead)

Handoff - used it right now to transfer from my phone to my Mac for easier typing.

Full resolution photos are downloaded to my Mac for editing and/or safe keeping without any intervention from me. And photos are available in a shared library across all my devices.

Universal Clipboard - copy text or graphics on my iPhone and when I paste on the Mac its there

Shared desktops - self explanatory, desktops will sync on Macs. Now that I'm doing more work with video I disabled this because it would use iCloud space and I use the desktop for scratch but some files can be 50gb so. Cool if you keep a clean desktop though.

Mail Drop for large attachments (5gb) - just like using a cloud service but it does everything for you natively.

Instant hotspot - basically turning on a hotspot remotely from the iCloud device that needs the internet.

Sharing wifi passwords with contacts - I like this because I don't actually need to tell someone my wifi password, its just securely autofills.

That is just a small sample of stuff I'm currently doing/using and obviously aren't features everyone needs/wants but unfortunately for me I find it difficult to move away from the iPhone because of those features and dozens more.
Apple makes tight integration with their current products, no doubt about that. And if you have those products then the ecosystem becomes very attractive.

I just haven't ever needed to have these features so bad that it's forced upgrades to current hardware that's capable of it. Workarounds or third party services have always sufficed when they've been needed.
 
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Haven’t ventured into android for a few years, but my gripe back then was the quality of apps were just not the same compared to iOS. Maybe that has changed, but I’d rather not take the chance. Also, Customizing is really not my thing - not really interested in changing the system font to comic sans.

I’m not into customization and I just prefer to keep things simple, that’s kind of what iOS is, straightforward and simple. For those who do want more customizable features, I do have to give Android credit, because there is much more you can customize with your preferences.
 
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I left Android back in the Note 3 days for iOS because of the need to fix what should have been working out of the box (getting an ASOP rom to remove the gigs of bloatware and horrible Samsung forced operating system changes). Back when I had Android I was constantly rooting, theming, and ... once I got a real job and got married, I didn't have time for all that. iOS fit the bill really well and works. Now that I'm older I have a hard time with the bloatware and adware and the inability to root to remove that anymore.

Like others, I will often borrow phones for a week or so to make sure I stay "up to date" with what is being offered and because I like to make informed decisions. (Nexus 6, Pixel, OnePlus, etc...).

When I joined my current workplace Apple phone users were ridiculed by the overwhelming Android users - called Apple Sheep and laughed at. Funny enough, now it is heavily iPhone ruled.

Variety is the spice of life. I don't need to justify my phone type to anyone and I sure hope everyone doesn't do what I do because life would be pretty boring then.
 
What? That's as dumb as the post you quoted.

I work in an office with 80 people, not one of them has an Android.

I have an extended family of about 30 people that got together this Christmas, 4 people had Androids and they were all college students who claimed they needed a phone with a very big screen for gaming and streaming purposes.

Android is for teenagers who game, stream, and go weeks without bathing. iPhone is what you get when you grow up. It’ll happen to you too, you’ll see.
 
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... once I got a real job and got married, I didn't have time for all that.
No offense, because we are friends and I respect you. But I've never bought this as an excuse or a reason.

My wife and I got married in 1997. She knew what I was involved with before she married me and she was okay with that. A full time job arrived for both of us in 1999. Same habits.

Kids showed up in 2003 and then 2008. Same interests, full time job on my part, stay at home mom on her part.

Now the kids are 9 and 14. I still have a full time job, my wife is in school to be a teacher and…same interests.

I have always found the time to invest in my interests. And my wife has never begrudged me that nor tried to take it away - especially since I give everyone enough time.

I will admit to having less time, but I have never stopped.

I have learned lately that it comes down to priorities. I love my family and they are my top priority but I won't surrender my interests. I manage to find the time for both.

It helps I suppose that both my wife and I are loners on our own, comfortable doing things by ourselves when together. And neither of us have much of a life. Our kids don't have much outside activities either as they are both a lof like us. We tend to stick around home a lot and I have the kind of job and boss where a lot of slack is cut to me.

So, I guess what I am getting at is not that you didn't have time for this anymore. You just chose to give that time to those other things because it's a priority to you. Which is totally okay. We all prioritize what is important to us.

I just can't take that line as an excuse or a reason is all. :D
 
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I work in an office with 80 people, not one of them has an Android.

I have an extended family of about 30 people that got together this Christmas, 4 people had Androids and they were all college students who claimed they needed a phone with a very big screen for gaming and streaming purposes.

Android is for teenagers who game, stream, and go weeks without bathing. iPhone is what you get when you grow up. It’ll happen to you too, you’ll see.
Buddy I'm 27 with an Android device. A few friends over the age of 35. We aren't teenagers who stream and game all day. Busted your logic right there. One thing to be biased to a company or device but to tell a lie to support it and believe it's true is wrong. At the end of the day these phones do the same exact thing. Tell me what is so different between Android and ios that you can't really have with Either. The emoji and other gimmicks excluded. The core stuff. You can both text (iMessage as much as a deal maker it's no different then using Facebook messenger, SMS or etc), make phone calls, use social media apps and so forth. You like you iPhone cool but that doesn't make anybody who likes an Android a teenager. That's like saying all Android people are geeks.


I also take showers daily because it's the right thing to do ( actually there is proof you shouldn't every day but I degress) and it's relaxing actually and yet i own an Android device blasphemy!
 
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No offense, because we are friends and I respect you. But I've never bought this as an excuse or a reason.

My wife and I got married in 1997. She knew what I was involved with before she married me and she was okay with that. A full time job arrived for both of us in 1999. Same habits.

Kids showed up in 2003 and then 2008. Same interests, full time job on my part, stay at home mom on her part.

Now the kids are 9 and 14. I still have a full time job, my wife is in school to be a teacher and…same interests.

I have always found the time to invest in my interests. And my wife has never begrudged me that nor tried to take it away - especially since I give everyone enough time.

I will admit to having less time, but I have never stopped.

I have learned lately that it comes down to priorities. I love my family and they are my top priority but I won't surrender my interests. I manage to find the time for both.

It helps I suppose that both my wife and I are loners on our own, comfortable doing things by ourselves when together. And neither of us have much of a life. Our kids don't have much outside activities either as they are both a lof like us. We tend to stick around home a lot and I have the kind of job and boss where a lot of slack is cut to me.

So, I guess what I am getting at is not that you didn't have time for this anymore. You just chose to give that time to those other things because it's a priority to you. Which is totally okay. We all prioritize what is important to us.

I just can't take that line as an ezcuse or a reason is all. :D

Yeah no worries at all - and thanks - I hope to meet you someday as well when I'm out and about in your state. I enjoy reading your posts here. :)

Yeah, I think it was all the years I spent rooting from HTC MyTouch, Droid 1, HTC Thunderbolt, to Note 3 - the considerable time I put into it - when I got married and a job that made 3x more - those things took a big backseat. That and, I was part of the group that came up with the $30k to root the Note 3 so we could remove adware. It was clear rooting to remove adware on Android devices (on Verizon) was going to be a thing of the past. So I guess that was more of it than anything. I can't stand having adware on a device I paid $700+ for.

Yep, you hit the nail on the head - I chose to give my time to other things that were a priority.

Thanks for your post! Always enjoy reading it - never will be an offense to have you disagree, I welcome it. :)
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I also take showers daily because it's the right thing to do ( actually there is proof you shouldn't every day but I degress) and it's relaxing actually and yet i own an Android device blasphemy!

I work in the software development field and I can't tell you how many people think this is optional. I don't want to be OS specific but the unix/linux guys tend to see showers as optional more than any other at least in my job. But I am thankful and glad you do - and I do as well because of my experience with those who haven't. lol :)
 
Buddy I'm 27 with an Android device. A few friends over the age of 35. We aren't teenagers who stream and game all day. Busted your logic right there. One thing to be biased to a company or device but to tell a lie to support it and believe it's true is wrong. At the end of the day these phones do the same exact thing. Tell me what is so different between Android and ios that you can't really have with Either. The emoji and other gimmicks excluded. The core stuff. You can both text (iMessage as much as a deal maker it's no different then using Facebook messenger, SMS or etc), make phone calls, use social media apps and so forth. You like you iPhone cool but that doesn't make anybody who likes an Android a teenager. That's like saying all Android people are geeks.

I also take showers daily because it's the right thing to do ( actually there is proof you shouldn't every day but I degress) and it's relaxing actually and yet i own an Android device blasphemy!

You are an outlier.
 
It’s always funny when one cult judges another cult for “not seeing the light”.

Tried Android years ago and got bored of it when nothing was ever updated. Went to Windows Phone and enjoyed it a lot but the CEO let it die. Have no problems with my X or Apple in general. It just works. Would rather chew broken glass than go back to Android or Google.

I really wish Microsoft had been able to make a good phone. Agree with you on Android though. I had an OG Droid, and a few Samsungs. I started getting iPhones with the 6 Plus and now have the X. For me, they work, and I don't have to think about them at all.
 
Stop. There's your answer.

Android is the phone you play games on in college; iPhone is the phone you use when you grow up and have a career.

I read your post and all I can do is shake my head and laugh. Then I noticed the beginning and the ending entries of your signature and it all made sense :)
 
As succinct as your post is, you’re correct. I think a smart phone is the one thing that I could absolutely care less about what somebody’s using, how new it is, which which manufacture they’re using, etc. I don’t even pay attention to what phone somebody is using in public. Everybody has a smart phone in today’s digital world, and they all uniformly primarily look the same. It’s nothing more than a tool and a commodity.
You came later in the Game than me.

Your first iPhone was iPhone - 6
Mine was First from the beginning.

I'm a born iPhone Addict!

I will never buy android no matter how overwhelming it is ?
 
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