Mistake or not, it is still offered by Apple to this day on Intel Macs, for which I praise Apple. I have just one use case for Windows, and it is VB Script and Macro based Excel sheets that I provide for my clients. Nothing else, but it is a tick mark on the wall, and I like and value that my Intel based Macs can do BOOTCAMP.
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I feel like i'm alone to dislike M1/what is it good for (Merged Mega Thread)
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I have to laugh at posts that include things like "I hate that the RAM is soldered into my M1 mini".... but its not... its no replaceable, but its not soldered in, unless you want to count the fact that the M1 chip itself is soldered in, since the "RAM" is INSIDE that... as to the SSD, iFixit has shown that it is "replaceable", technically as it is a proprietary plug in module, it just isn't customer accessabile. So is the M1 computers less upgradable? sure... so think about your purchase ahead of time. I just bought the M1 Max Studio with 32g/1TB SSD and expect that will last me quite a long time... Maybe in 10 years, there will me an M5, but I'll "want" it, not "need" it I'm sure
Yeah, no. I can’t easily predict storage over 5 or more years. That said, I’m considering moving non OS stuff to DNAS, which means I don’t need to consider that storage up front
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Would it be great if memory and storage were still user-upgradable. Yes! Is the fact that it's not a deal-breaker for me? Not for a second. You can configure high specs on the machine at the time of purchase so you won't outgrow it too quickly. You just have to think about it carefully and plan ahead. Yes, I know it can be expensive to configure high TB of storage and high GB of memory with Apple, but there's really no other easy option at this point, so it is what it is. Of course, you can always opt for high speed external storage if you want to offset the cost a bit of upgrading the RAM.
External SSD are still viable options, I almost got only a 512mb instead of the 1TB as I have 10TB of external "storage"..... STORAGE for the M1 is expandable, same as every other Mac (or PC) since forever. it is the RAM that isn't... and if you can't work with between 16gb and 128gb of RAM then I can't concieve of how you use a computer
Yes, but what is there to configure on an M1 mini... from 8 to 16GB RAM is not enough... and that is what the OP (as well as myself) are complaining about. I personally do not need a Mac Studio M1 Max/Ultra for just higher RAM, is a complete overkill for my needs. Just need more RAM... Oh well.
There are some cases where you can’t accurately predict whether you need 64 or 128 GB. These cases are rare though.
I actually just needed a Mac that I could use two screens with.. and wasn’t a notebook
You need to consider what the M1 is... its a SOC (System on Chip)
M1 is 8g or 16g
Max is 32g or 64g
Ultra is 64g or 128g
if those don't work for you.... perhaps returning to Windows might be the only path left
M1 is 8g or 16g
Max is 32g or 64g
Ultra is 64g or 128g
if those don't work for you.... perhaps returning to Windows might be the only path left
512GB, not 512mb, right? I am impartial to the storage options, as you said external the sky is the limit. But RAM is a separate story, and the M1 mini offers only 16GB... for now.
Oh I get it! But there has always been something dirty about running Windows for us purists. It's a sign of the dark ages. The Intel era signaled the end of what made a Mac a Mac. The M1 carrys the PowerPC spirit on.
Not sure if you’re trying to respond to me, but if you are, well… consider that there are features that force you to the Max and Ultra.
I agree with you, but as I said I am thankful to Apple for providing it, otherwise I would have needed a separate Windows machine.
Not if they’re both thunderbolt. And please, if you are replying to me, use the reply function, it makes the thread easier to follow
tbh - Soldered-down RAM and/or SSDs makes that Mac a disposable item.
Good thing that the SSD isn’t soldered? Just socketed.tbh - Soldered-down RAM and/or SSDs makes that Mac a disposable item.
With the commoditising of devices and computers, no wonder device as a service is likely coming.
It was a nice way to rope in switchers. I know tons of people that bought a Mini back in the day to try Mac out and the Windows thing was the huge selling point. I wonder how many of them abandoned Windows and made it to the M1 era.
But people still complain even when the computer DOES have higher GB of RAM options, because it would be cheaper to buy it through a third party. And IMO, most people over-estimate their RAM needs. I think if you truly need a ton of RAM, then you probably also need the more powerful overall machine as well. People mocked me for saying 4GB was enough on my 2012 MBA for what I was doing, yet it performed just fine even with lots of apps open. Yes, I configured my 2019 iMac with 64GB, but that was more just "because I can" than "I've GOT to have that much". That one was still user-upgradeable, and since I was already spending so much on the i9, I figured I might as well go for more RAM.
Quite simply - if you design the whole product - you can guarantee the the whole product and quality therein.
Offer up - "And you can change the SSD and the memory - oh and other things..."
The cost of your support goes up and up and up. With more questions etc
Just sell the damned thing - and get a better one should your needs change.
It is like buying a 1 bed bungalow - and wanting to add on an extra room or two - then a second floor etc etc
Just sell it up - and buy the house you need.
This is coming from a bod who had a fully kitted out top spec Macbook Pro in 2017 - and "death by wine" made the repair more expensive than a Macbook M1 Air ( 1TB ) and found that it just smokes the 2017 in every dept.
I can't imagine the need for more processing/ storage capacity - but if I ever do - I'll Ebay it etc - and buy what is right for my needs.
It simply requires a change of thinking on our behalf.
The old problem with PC's is the "you can remove and insert whatever fills your boots here - and it will work"
There are compromises with that approach.
With Apple - "You got what you bought" - flog it when you outgrow it. And get something else that does.
It is easier all around - and less of the posts of "My memory isn't giving me the Geekbench marks that everyone else is getting..."
It has admittedly taken me a fair few years to get to this approach....but I do think Apple have got it right.
Offer up - "And you can change the SSD and the memory - oh and other things..."
The cost of your support goes up and up and up. With more questions etc
Just sell the damned thing - and get a better one should your needs change.
It is like buying a 1 bed bungalow - and wanting to add on an extra room or two - then a second floor etc etc
Just sell it up - and buy the house you need.
This is coming from a bod who had a fully kitted out top spec Macbook Pro in 2017 - and "death by wine" made the repair more expensive than a Macbook M1 Air ( 1TB ) and found that it just smokes the 2017 in every dept.
I can't imagine the need for more processing/ storage capacity - but if I ever do - I'll Ebay it etc - and buy what is right for my needs.
It simply requires a change of thinking on our behalf.
The old problem with PC's is the "you can remove and insert whatever fills your boots here - and it will work"
There are compromises with that approach.
With Apple - "You got what you bought" - flog it when you outgrow it. And get something else that does.
It is easier all around - and less of the posts of "My memory isn't giving me the Geekbench marks that everyone else is getting..."
It has admittedly taken me a fair few years to get to this approach....but I do think Apple have got it right.
Yes, a nice way to rope in switchers, but not only. I abandoned Windows, but as I said I have just one need for Windows in the software system that I develop and sell, and it use VB Script and Macros in an Excel sheet to connect to an Oracle DB and provide a "desktop integration". I can't avoid the need, clients need it, and Apple has saved me money for not needing a separate Windows machine.
Plenty of people do extensions to the house in pretty much every area I’ve lived in. My parents even converted a bungalow to a several floor house. It’s also likely cheaper to add floors than buy a new house where my parents live. I haven’t checked prices for new homes recently.
There are probably better analogies out there, I just haven’t given it thought.
I was one of those people -- I got a Mac after I knew it could run Windows decently in a VM. And no, I never abandoned anything, I still run both for different uses. Including still having an Intel Mac Mini, and my M1 Studio should get in this week. I had an M1 MBA, but didn't like it.
But ther comes a point when your little 1 bed bungalow turns into a monstrocity of you adding on , adding on etc.
You get more worth - just selling up and living in a better neighbourhood.
Let's try another example.
My first car was a Yugo 45 ( No idea if it sold in the US - Google it ).
Now - I could replace the engine , gearbox etc etc. ad infinitem or buy something else fit for my purpose.
We do it with pretty much everything else we buy.
I have no idea how much work it is for a tech company to ensure that if they release some kit - it must be able to work optimum with every other bit of stuff someone decides to plug into it.
Keep the damned thing sealed and you get less hassle as a manufacturer.
When is the last time you wanted to physically get hands on in upgrading the internals of your coffee maker, tumble dryer, bedside lamp etc?
Just because - that is where we came from - it doesn't need to be the future that where we want to be.
There is a market for those who want to play and upgrade hands on.
There is also a market for those who understand that if "you want a faster car - buy a faster car"
There is room for both.
I am now in the camp of "If I want a better and faster car..... I'll just buy it"
( and I used to spend a lot of my weekends getting oily in just running / beefing up my cars. )
I'm turning into my folks.
You get more worth - just selling up and living in a better neighbourhood.
Let's try another example.
My first car was a Yugo 45 ( No idea if it sold in the US - Google it ).
Now - I could replace the engine , gearbox etc etc. ad infinitem or buy something else fit for my purpose.
We do it with pretty much everything else we buy.
I have no idea how much work it is for a tech company to ensure that if they release some kit - it must be able to work optimum with every other bit of stuff someone decides to plug into it.
Keep the damned thing sealed and you get less hassle as a manufacturer.
When is the last time you wanted to physically get hands on in upgrading the internals of your coffee maker, tumble dryer, bedside lamp etc?
Just because - that is where we came from - it doesn't need to be the future that where we want to be.
There is a market for those who want to play and upgrade hands on.
There is also a market for those who understand that if "you want a faster car - buy a faster car"
There is room for both.
I am now in the camp of "If I want a better and faster car..... I'll just buy it"
( and I used to spend a lot of my weekends getting oily in just running / beefing up my cars. )
I'm turning into my folks.
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