I get bored from iPhone/iOS

[MRU]

True about Samsung and the SD Card. But then if they bring it back on the S7....isn't that point pretty moot then?
They listened to their customers.

Then as you have said so many times....why turn this into a Samsung versus Apple thread!!!!

I'm not turning anything into a Samsung v Apple debate, I'm just pointing out your point you were making could also be made on more than just one company ...

 

[tbayrgs]

But the same statement could be thrown out at Samsung and the removal of SD card last year from its flagships.








Personally re:headphone port, as long as they throw in an adapter or a decent pair of Bluetooth earphones I'll begrudgingly accept it, I'm not adverse to change if the change is universal, my biggest issue is that the lightning port is proprietary to Apple devices and not even Apple Computers have it, meaning a pair of lightning headphones are very limited to a subset of devices making a decent pair very much a luxury and awkward for multiple usage.

So guess i have to get with the times and go Bluetooth, but I've resisted so far because I have so many things to charge at night, another something is also a bit of a pita, and guaranteed I'll forget to charge them and they will be discharged when i want them.

I expect Apple to offer some kind of lightning to 3.5 adapter so you should be able to continue using any existing headphone, albeit with what's likely to be an ugly dongle. Not including/offering an adapter would be worthwhile of serious criticism.

 

[jamezr]

I'm not turning anything into a Samsung v Apple debate, I'm just pointing out your point you were making could also be made on more than just one company ...

well tbh...no one brought any other company into the conversation. That is how things get turned into these ugly threads of this company against another company IMHO.


I do think Apple will include an adapter too.

 

[Fernandez21]

There is a universal solution--Bluetooth wireless.

I understand what you're saying but when has Apple cared about the rest of the industry? They've always used proprietary connectors (30 pin, Lighning, MagSafe) and make hardware decisions bases on their own whims (the aforementioned omission of the CD/DVD drive, NOT adopting Blu Ray drives when it was becoming commonplace in their PC counterparts, inclusion of only a single USB-C connector in their MacBooks). This will likely be no different.

I'm not trying to justify their decision per se--don't really have a dog in this fight as I ditched wired headphones years ago but people's flabbergasted responses to this rumor is amusing. What's the cliche--'a tiger can't change it's stripes or a leopard can't change it's spots', something like that. Apple is doing exactly what they've done for years--looking after their own self interests. If people are so aghast, then just stop buying their stuff--seems pretty simple. Nothing will make this point clearer than a hit to the bottom line. I just don't see it happening.

Yeah, I mostly agree with you. I also mostly use my Bluetooth jay birds, but there are times when I forget to charge them and fall back on my earbuds. In my opinion though, I think it's the wrong move for Apple. What will most likely happen is that the majority of people will either use a dongle or the included EarPods, very few people will buy dedicated lightning head phones. Then whatever standard replaces the 3.5mm jack will then be included in the iPhone released that year.

 

[nj1266]

I do think Apple will include an adapter too.

Apple will not include an adapter in the box. They will sell it separately. They will, however, include lightning based EarPods. That is what they did in the past when Apple switched from 30 pin to lighting connector.

 

[tbayrgs]

Yeah, I mostly agree with you. I also mostly use my Bluetooth jay birds, but there are times when I forget to charge them and fall back on my earbuds. In my opinion though, I think it's the wrong move for Apple. What will most likely happen is that the majority of people will either use a dongle or the included EarPods, very few people will buy dedicated lightning head phones. Then whatever standard replaces the 3.5mm jack will then be included in the iPhone released that year.

I haven't looked into it but I'm guessing USB-C can be used for audio as well. Anyone willing to be that after Apple pulls this move with the Lightning port that other OEMs start adopting the equivalent via USB-C within a couple years after? If Apple would then jump on board we'd be all set---not holding my breath for that though.

 

[apolloa]

I think the reality is somewhere between these two points.

A money grab by Apple? To some extent yes, but a corporation devising a strategy to generate more income---shocking!

But I'm sorry Apollo, your reasoning in bold is pure rubbish. You're essentially saying the analog headphone jack is the pinnacle of development and should never be changed. That's like saying we never should have moved past vinyl, 8-tracks, or cassette tapes.

Your argument is a complete regurgitation of everything said when Apple ditched the 30-pin connector. There were not stop posts by people complaining that they'd now have to repurchase all of their cabLes and accessories (and there were plenty of expensive versions of those too). The folks who use expensive headphones now while either decide that their headphones are more important to their experience than the iPhone and switch phones (plenty of choices) or they'll get different headphones. And if enough people choose the former and Apple sees a significant drop in iPhones sales, then maybe they'll reconsider their decision. The more likely scenario is that most people using traditional wired headphones will grumble for a moment, then pick a wireless or lightning port compatible solution and move on with their lives and in a year or two this will all be ancient history.

But portraying this like the consumer is getting screwed is preposterous. People can easily vote with their wallets and choose something other than the iPhone, simple as that. My guess is most complaining here are overvaluing most people's ties to their headphones. And most people actually going the latter route doesn't mean they're sheep as some here love to portray them as but rather that most people don't care that much because they probably don't spend more than $30 on whatever wired headphones/earbuds they use..a far cry from the $650+ they spend on the actual iPhone itself.

CURRENTLY there is nothing better to replace the headphone jack!

That's my point and nothing Apple might make will replace the headphone jack and be better either, I would suggest you read this thread for the evidence of people's reactions to replacing their expensive headsets::

https://forums.macrumors.com/thread...-with-all-in-one-lightning-connector.1941037/

Plenty of vocal folks stating how unhappy at this rumour they are. As I said, this is nothing more than a money gouging exercise by Apple if it's true. Because their is nothing that can replace the headphone jack and improve on it.