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HellDiverUK

macrumors 6502
Oct 24, 2009
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Belfast, UK
3 degrees only shows you can remember something long enough to do a few exams. It doesn't show you can comprehend and understand simple things.

I know people who have 2 masters degrees and they can't open Outlook. :rolleyes:
 

Phil A.

Moderator emeritus
Apr 2, 2006
5,800
3,100
Shropshire, UK
Maybe the OP meant he had this ;)

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drober30

macrumors 6502a
Jul 5, 2007
846
105
Three Degrees:

Under Water Checkers

Advanced Basket Weaving

Weight Lifting (I pick things up and put them down)
 

RolledUp20s

macrumors regular
Jun 14, 2011
243
0
Wrexham, North Wales
So I updated a contact on my phone. It did not update on my computer. I check in iTunes and the check box for "sync contacts" is not selected. I try to select it. It tells me that I am syncing with iCloud and that if I check the box I will get duplicate contacts. HOW DOES THIS MAKE ANY SENSE???? I want the contacts on my computer to match my phone. What am I not getting?

Didnt your mother tell you not to play with matches?
 

GhostMac24

macrumors 6502
Jul 27, 2011
322
5
NC
I'll bet there are many people (just like the OP) that truly don't fully understand what it takes to do iCloud (or something Apple related) or make it work but more than likely don't post as they see the beating people take for no reason. Sure, not knowing that Lion is needed on his desktop to work with iCloud is a requirement that was overlooked. However.......

He posted a tounge-in-cheek statement and y'all skewer him. 99% of the immature comments would NEVER be said if this was a face-to-face conversation. If anything, it would be just the opposite as it would be an opportunity to show YOUR intelligence in the field of Apple to help another. It amazes me the how rude people can be when covered by the cloak on anonymity.

It would be nice to come here just once and see a question asked and then answered without all the insults. With that said, there are several that do post helpful comments so all is not lost.

Altruism or condescension are the two options for posting here. The former shows your intelligence, the later shows the lack of it.
 

gquiring

macrumors regular
Oct 19, 2007
198
0
SC
I'll bet there are many people (just like the OP) that truly don't fully understand what it takes to do iCloud (or something Apple related) or make it work but more than likely don't post as they see the beating people take for no reason. Sure, not knowing that Lion is needed on his desktop to work with iCloud is a requirement that was overlooked. However.......

He posted a tounge-in-cheek statement and y'all skewer him. 99% of the immature comments would NEVER be said if this was a face-to-face conversation. If anything, it would be just the opposite as it would be an opportunity to show YOUR intelligence in the field of Apple to help another. It amazes me the how rude people can be when covered by the cloak on anonymity.

It would be nice to come here just once and see a question asked and then answered without all the insults. With that said, there are several that do post helpful comments so all is not lost.

Altruism or condescension are the two options for posting here. The former shows your intelligence, the later shows the lack of it.
I 100% agree with you, the comments made against him were so immature and never would be said face to face. It really degrades these forums when we have folks that detour the discussion with non-sense.
 

Neopfyle

macrumors newbie
Oct 15, 2011
11
0
Jacksonville, Fl
I don't get it, either.

I've always thought of my phone as the center of my iUniverse, but at least up until iOS5, Apple has considered my PC (iMac) as the center of my iUniverse. I was never able to accept that proposition, and I'm glad they're at least trying to change it.

Sync, to me, should mean "Take what's on my phone and put it on my PC", but apparently it was the other way around.

I agree totally ... I wish i could sync from my iphone to my mac too.. especially iCal
 

sim667

macrumors 65816
Dec 7, 2010
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I have one degree and even someone as thick as me has managed to work out how to set up icloud :rolleyes:
 

boltjames

macrumors 601
May 2, 2010
4,876
2,852
I 100% agree with you, the comments made against him were so immature and never would be said face to face. It really degrades these forums when we have folks that detour the discussion with non-sense.

+1.

The wealthy and the intelligent always come under attack in discussion forums.

We are the 1%. What about us?

BJ
 

sclawis300

macrumors 65816
Original poster
Apr 22, 2010
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True confidence would be exemplified by not feeling the need to crow about having the three degrees in the first place - especially since it seems to be completely irrelevant to the discussion.

It was a lighthearted attempt to get people to actually look at the thread. Things are moving so fast on here right now things fall to the second or third page quickly. Also, it was a preemptive attempt to keep people from just calling me stupid.

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Yup my ego is really hurt

3 degrees and still on your way through life you couldn't read at least one article stating 10.7.2

You did start this off wrong but that said this goes to show even after all the "degrees" common sense and some simple back up your data can not be bought

I learned a looong time ago
With any upgrade you always back up your data

You should notice an iCloud icon in your preferences after 10.7.2
You will notice also is ... Surprise not there before the upgrade

Sorry if I sound cynical but you could easily get away from so many issues by first backing up yor potentially affected data ( external drive)
Then upgrading to 10.7.2
Then the iCloud upgrade

Hope this helps

It does not really help much. When did I say anything about not backing up my stuff??????????

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I think there might be some bruised egos. It's all a matter of perspective. I don't believe the OP was bragging about his degrees, per se, he was simply stating that by having the three degrees he is not a complete idiot with a double-digit IQ and has a decent grasp of the English language and still is having difficulty. I didn't see any harm or foul in his post.

FWIW, YMMV, My .02, et cetera

nail on the head.

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That might have less of an effect than you think! :p

To answer the OP, in order to make sure changes are reflected on your computer, you have to do two things: upgrade to 10.7.2 if you're on a Mac or download the iCloud control panel if you're on a PC.

Here's a link that may help. I don't know why Apple doesn't put this smack dab in the middle of the iCloud section of their website.

http://www.apple.com/icloud/setup/mac.html

I wish Apple would be as accommodating to its customers who buy macs as they are to PC users, even if we have not felt the need (or are cautious because of business purposes) to upgrade to lion.

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I have one degree and even someone as thick as me has managed to work out how to set up icloud :rolleyes:

I wonder if we have the same setup. I have some restrictions since I work in a networked office where only one other person has a mac. He has lion and has all kinds of problems. I don't have wireless at my office either. I have a personal computer at home that I don't want all my business contacts on. If things were cut and dry and I just had a personal computer at home I seriously doubt I would have a single issue with the way iCloud works. However, it seems like if you want to do anything a little out of the ordinary, there may be issues.
 

newagemac

macrumors 68020
Mar 31, 2010
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23
Actually the OP is a Mason and indicating he has his "3 degrees" is a secret signal to all his Masonic Brothers to come help him out with iCloud. :D
 

gloss

macrumors 601
May 9, 2006
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around/about
OP, I might try first syncing with your computer to get those contacts onto your phone, and then syncing from the phone to iCloud. For me, at least, this copied the contacts already on my phone (Google contacts, at the time) to iCloud. I then disabled Google sync, which removed those contacts and left me only with the iCloud copies.

Worth a shot. Couldn't hurt anything.
 

sclawis300

macrumors 65816
Original poster
Apr 22, 2010
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OP, I might try first syncing with your computer to get those contacts onto your phone, and then syncing from the phone to iCloud. For me, at least, this copied the contacts already on my phone (Google contacts, at the time) to iCloud. I then disabled Google sync, which removed those contacts and left me only with the iCloud copies.

Worth a shot. Couldn't hurt anything.

If I do that, then all future changes must be made through my phone and not my computer. It is much easier sitting at a desk to add contacts through the computer. Not to mention I use merge fields in documents so I have to have contacts on my computer.
 

gloss

macrumors 601
May 9, 2006
4,811
0
around/about
If I do that, then all future changes must be made through my phone and not my computer. It is much easier sitting at a desk to add contacts through the computer. Not to mention I use merge fields in documents so I have to have contacts on my computer.

a) You can make edits via iCloud.com and they sync instantly.

b) Yeah, you'll probably need to upgrade to Lion to get the full Address Book integration. Or wait for some resourceful 3rd party publisher to release a sync app.
 

Wrathwitch

macrumors 65816
Dec 4, 2009
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To the OP, reading some of the posts on here, you must have really stepped on some egos by saying you have 3 degrees.....

I like your confidence, as i see you have not said one word to them.
Nice to see a mature reaction to something that you can not control.

Good for you.

I concurr most heartily. People automatically take the worst interpretation on text if you aren't including the lame but necessary emoticons. Rather than thinking that the OP was looking down on people (insecurity much?), perhaps they could have looked at it with a grain of humour by a person who was simply stating, hey I, despite being smart enough to gain 3 degrees (generally a strong indication of being able to study and learn for a long period of time), am stymied by a phone upgrade.

I would have hoped better from the MR forum members as I do recall telling my father that if he was having problems in here, that people aren't judgemental and actually helpful.... seems I was wrong.

Well not completely, some people were helpful, but you get the gist.

WW
 

wazgilbert

macrumors regular
Jan 15, 2007
203
19
UK South
I love the way people say that no one would criticise the three degrees comment to the OP's face, clearly never been to work in a manufacturing environment!

First response to that statement is, yeah? What in? And regardless what the response is, the piss-taking starts with comments about how it hasn't helped you at all, and what a fat load of good it did you. Wasted time/money etc etc ad nauseum, and I'm so used to it, it never crossed my mind as a childish response when I thought; Jeesh, here we go, bloody art-students!

Brave? Maybe, proud/ honest? Possibly,
Feed the trolls, most definitely!
 

sclawis300

macrumors 65816
Original poster
Apr 22, 2010
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I concurr most heartily. People automatically take the worst interpretation on text if you aren't including the lame but necessary emoticons. Rather than thinking that the OP was looking down on people (insecurity much?), perhaps they could have looked at it with a grain of humour by a person who was simply stating, hey I, despite being smart enough to gain 3 degrees (generally a strong indication of being able to study and learn for a long period of time), am stymied by a phone upgrade.

I would have hoped better from the MR forum members as I do recall telling my father that if he was having problems in here, that people aren't judgemental and actually helpful.... seems I was wrong.

Well not completely, some people were helpful, but you get the gist.

WW

If it were a mac question I think he would be fine. However, in an iphone/ipad thread, I don't think so.
 

Tomorrow

macrumors 604
Mar 2, 2008
7,160
1,365
Always a day away
Rather than thinking that the OP was looking down on people (insecurity much?), perhaps they could have looked at it with a grain of humour by a person who was simply stating, hey I, despite being smart enough to gain 3 degrees (generally a strong indication of being able to study and learn for a long period of time), am stymied by a phone upgrade.

Questions get asked all the time in these forums, mostly by people who simply ask their question without stating their non-relevant educational background. Very seldom is anybody ridiculed for asking a genuine question.

The OP asked a question which, in my opinion, was a good one - in and of itself, I don't think anybody would have ridiculed him or characterized him as "stupid." The posting of his educational credentials did nothing at all to ward off any responses calling him such, but DID come across to me (and to others) as a bit pompous.
 

sclawis300

macrumors 65816
Original poster
Apr 22, 2010
1,472
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Questions get asked all the time in these forums, mostly by people who simply ask their question without stating their non-relevant educational background. Very seldom is anybody ridiculed for asking a genuine question.

The OP asked a question which, in my opinion, was a good one - in and of itself, I don't think anybody would have ridiculed him or characterized him as "stupid." The posting of his educational credentials did nothing at all to ward off any responses calling him such, but DID come across to me (and to others) as a bit pompous.

Sorry you took it the wrong way.

On a side note, I wonder if the way people perceived the statement is directly related to the way they would have meant it? Maybe it has something more to do with the general overall tone in these threads.
 

Estrates

macrumors newbie
Aug 28, 2008
20
0
So I updated a contact on my phone. It did not update on my computer. I check in iTunes and the check box for "sync contacts" is not selected. I try to select it. It tells me that I am syncing with iCloud and that if I check the box I will get duplicate contacts. HOW DOES THIS MAKE ANY SENSE???? I want the contacts on my computer to match my phone. What am I not getting?

Dont bother with iTunes for mail or contacts.
I dont know the ver of OSX your using but would be bets to upgrade to 10.7.2

Make sure all the updates are done on your mac and be sure you created an appleID

Update iPhone
Use your Primary AppleID (only if you added more emails to your apple ID account) for your new iOS on iPhone
The new iOS will fill in a little bit of your needed options like iCloud mail etc
Best to check and verify that your AppleID is there in all the apps you want associated with your AppleID once you start using your iPhone again.
Switch over to icloud if needed from MobileMe http://www.me.com/move (existing ME users)

Heres the tricky part I encountered after setting up 7 icloud accounts
https://appleid.apple.com manage your AppleID
Best thing to do is use only one AppleID for iTunes, iCloud
So if you have a iTunes account/AppleID use this one for iCloud

You should be ready to go

After adding contacts via, Mac, iPad, iPhone with same AppleID (each device using your appleID) they will go to the cloud and sync with each other with no additional effort required.
Dont manage these things like mail, contacts etc via iTunes... iCloud will do this.
Mail should be available on all devices using same AppleID included the mail.app on macosx of the mail account info is configured in the mail.app

Sorry for my earlier remarks and no this is not an easy transition but you opened the door :)

Anyway I hope this helps Ill correct this if needed as I create more accounts.
 

stevep

macrumors 6502a
Oct 13, 2004
876
4
UK
I've synched my Mail, Contacts and Calendar successfully, no duplicates or lost data. All with SnowLeopard on a MBP, iPad2 and Touch 4g. You don't need Lion. You may need to search these forums for help - I did, and found this and this for Mail and iCal.

Didn't need any help with the Contacts and I didn't use iTunes either (which is where you might be going wrong). Just use the iCloud settings on your phone.
 

boltjames

macrumors 601
May 2, 2010
4,876
2,852
Questions get asked all the time in these forums, mostly by people who simply ask their question without stating their non-relevant educational background. Very seldom is anybody ridiculed for asking a genuine question.

The OP asked a question which, in my opinion, was a good one - in and of itself, I don't think anybody would have ridiculed him or characterized him as "stupid." The posting of his educational credentials did nothing at all to ward off any responses calling him such, but DID come across to me (and to others) as a bit pompous.

To my knowledge there is no forum rule against pompousness, nothing that would say what he posted was wrong.

Why is it okay for posters to say "I'd love a new iPhone but I'm unemployed and can't afford it" but not okay to say "I got a great education and I'm a successful smart guy"?

I don't recall anyone telling poorly educated, unsuccessful posters to be less honest, stop being pathetic in public, stop looking for sympathy. Right?

BJ
 
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