I have 3 degrees and I don't get icloud...

[Tomorrow]

To my knowledge there is no forum rule against pompousness, nothing that would say what he posted was wrong.

Nope, and as far as I'm aware nobody reported his post (or the thread title) to the mods for deletion on the grounds of violating the forum's rules.

And what's good for the goose is also good for the gander, as they say; there's nothing in the forum rules prohibiting criticism of either his posts or the thread title.

Why is it okay for posters to say "I'd love a new iPhone but I'm unemployed and can't afford it" but not okay to say "I got a great education and I'm a successful smart guy"?

Perfectly fine to say, but that isn't what he said. He created a thread with the title "I have 3 degrees and I don't get icloud..." (sic). Those two statements, best I can tell, aren't the least bit related. At least in your hypothetical example, being unemployed has a great deal to do with not being able to afford a new iPhone. Nowhere in this thread does the OP discuss his degrees or their relevance to the topic.

 

[sclawis300]

Perfectly fine to say, but that isn't what he said. He created a thread with the title "I have 3 degrees and I don't get icloud..." (sic). Those two statements, best I can tell, aren't the least bit related. At least in your hypothetical example, being unemployed has a great deal to do with not being able to afford a new iPhone. Nowhere in this thread does the OP discuss his degrees or their relevance to the topic.

If you read the thread the relevance is noted throughout.

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I've synched my Mail, Contacts and Calendar successfully, no duplicates or lost data. All with SnowLeopard on a MBP, iPad2 and Touch 4g. You don't need Lion. You may need to search these forums for help - I did, and found this and this for Mail and iCal.

Didn't need any help with the Contacts and I didn't use iTunes either (which is where you might be going wrong). Just use the iCloud settings on your phone.

correct me if I am wrong, but neither of these links answer the question about contacts.

 

[ericrwalker]

He created a thread with the title "I have 3 degrees and I don't get icloud..." (sic). Those two statements, best I can tell, aren't the least bit related.

He was saying he believes he's smart, and he doesn't understand iCloud. I would say I fall in the same boat. Seems to me (at this time at least) to be all hype.

 

[stevep]

If you read the thread the relevance is noted throughout.

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correct me if I am wrong, but neither of these links answer the question about contacts.

No you're not wrong! I added them as it seems you don't have Lion, and thought that since you were having trouble with Contacts they might possibly be of some use with the rest of your Cloud stuff. Please ignore them if they aren't relevant.
Actually, I've been thinking about the Lion thing and I may be wrong about that - pre-Lion Address Book on the Mac won't be communicating with iCloud. What you could possibly try is exporting your address book as a vCard file and then manually dropping that file onto the http://www.icloud.com address book. Switch off your iPhone first, as if it screws up and then synchs you won't be thanking me.

 

[Geckotek]

nope, no lion here. Guess I should stop using iCloud.

Yeah, I've had "the cloud" for as long as I can remember. I sync w/ Exchange.

I wish everyone did, it's always so painful to see my friends struggle over losing their contactsa and such.

So far iCloud has only been useful for Photo Stream. I'm sure I'll find some other uses eventually, but that's been the coolest so far. No more need to take a pic and e-mail it to myself.

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If it were a mac question I think he would be fine. However, in an iphone/ipad thread, I don't think so.

Hahahaha, this is probably the truth. Much different atmosphere in here.

 

[TonyC28]

Ya know how some people think Apple users/fans are stuck up and snobby? After reading through this thread I really don't understand where people get that impression

 

[boltjames]

Ya know how some people think Apple users/fans are stuck up and snobby? After reading through this thread I really don't understand where people get that impression

For the most part, Apple users are stuck up and snobby. We're buying the most expensive product in each class (server, notebook, tablet, music player, mobile phone) when we could get 10% less experience for 50% less cost.

I don't see why anyone feels like we have to shy away from that perception or feel guilty about it. For the most part, we've earned it. And we don't run around putting down people who buy Netbooks at WalMart or get $10 Android phones from Virgin Mobile, so they shouldn't run around putting down people who can afford the best either.

Just as the average person has a right to discuss their averageness, the elite have the right to discuss their success. One shouldn't be ashamed of what one has accomplished, shouldn't feel embarrassed.

We are the 1%. Stand up, be proud of it. Don't fight the perception; embrace it.

BJ

 

[TonyC28]

For the most part, Apple users are stuck up and snobby. We're buying the most expensive product in each class (server, notebook, tablet, music player, mobile phone) when we could get 10% less experience for 50% less cost.

I don't see why anyone feels like we have to shy away from that perception or feel guilty about it. For the most part, we've earned it. And we don't run around putting down people who buy Netbooks at WalMart or get $10 Android phones from Virgin Mobile, so they shouldn't run around putting down people who can afford the best either.

Just as the average person has a right to discuss their averageness, the elite have the right to discuss their success. One shouldn't be ashamed of what one has accomplished, shouldn't feel embarrassed.

We are the 1%. Stand up, be proud of it. Don't fight the perception; embrace it.

BJ

That was sarcasm, right?

 

[sclawis300]

No you're not wrong! I added them as it seems you don't have Lion, and thought that since you were having trouble with Contacts they might possibly be of some use with the rest of your Cloud stuff. Please ignore them if they aren't relevant.
Actually, I've been thinking about the Lion thing and I may be wrong about that - pre-Lion Address Book on the Mac won't be communicating with iCloud. What you could possibly try is exporting your address book as a vCard file and then manually dropping that file onto the http://www.icloud.com address book. Switch off your iPhone first, as if it screws up and then synchs you won't be thanking me.

before I turned iCloud off I noticed a couple duplications in my contacts. The guy next to me (with lion) also has some duplicated address book entries. One problem that we have both noticed is when we changed something like the work address for a contact, it did not go well. My address book created a new work address instead of changing the current one. I ended up with like 5 addresses in my contact information.

 

[gentlefury]

If your using iCloud you shouldn't be trying to sync contacts with iTunes you should set up your iCloud account on your desktop, so it syncs your contacts with iCloud, same as your iPhone.

 

[sclawis300]

If your using iCloud you shouldn't be trying to sync contacts with iTunes you should set up your iCloud account on your desktop, so it syncs your contacts with iCloud, same as your iPhone.

Did you downvote my last comment? Have you read any of the thread?

 

[boltjames]

That was sarcasm, right?

No, not at all.

I'm not going to feel bad because I'm doing well, and I'd expect others to be proud of me just as I'd be sympathetic to them.

BJ

 

[gentlefury]

Did you downvote my last comment? Have you read any of the thread?

Why would you assume that I would down vote anything after offering advice.

 

[ericrwalker]

No, not at all.

I'm not going to feel bad because I'm doing well, and I'd expect others to be proud of me just as I'd be sympathetic to them.

BJ

A true American. The difference between you and the 99% (really closer to 40%), is that you and I know there isn't an X amount of wealth out there and anyone can make something of themselves. We don't need to take wealth from the people who EARNED it to give it to those who didn't.

 

[boltjames]

A true American. The difference between you and the 99% (really closer to 40%), is that you and I know there isn't an X amount of wealth out there and anyone can make something of themselves. We don't need to take wealth from the people who EARNED it to give it to those who didn't.

The argument can be make that some CEO making $40M in annual salary and a $100M bonus is ridiculously compensated and there should be a cap on such things.

But you can't say that a corporate VP making $400K and a $100K bonus is a problem, nor should he be taxed or made to feel bad.

Anyway, not trying to make this thread political. Was just standing up for the right of the OP to mention his education in a public forum. It's no different than a student asking for advice on how to get an iPhone on a discount because he's unemployed. One post shouldn't be looked at as "honest" and the other as "conceited". One shouldn't be embraced and helped while the other chastised and outcast. Both are good people, both love Apple products, both are here to help others. The fact that they are in different social or educational classes is immaterial.

BJ

 

[ericrwalker]

Lady Gaga made $100M last year because she dresses stupid and sings annoying songs. Some actors make $20M on a single movie, and I don't see people occupying Hollywood.

Wall St, funds companies. Apple for one, and Dell and most products we buy. If we didn't have these corporations, products would be more expensive to the consumers...or never exist in the first place.

The argument can be make that some CEO making $40M in annual salary and a $100M bonus is ridiculously compensated and there should be a cap on such things.

But you can't say that a corporate VP making $400K and a $100K bonus is a problem, nor should he be taxed or made to feel bad.

Anyway, not trying to make this thread political. Was just standing up for the right of the OP to mention his education in a public forum. It's no different than a student asking for advice on how to get an iPhone on a discount because he's unemployed. One post shouldn't be looked at as "honest" and the other as "conceited". One shouldn't be embraced and helped while the other chastised and outcast. Both are good people, both love Apple products, both are here to help others. The fact that they are in different social or educational classes is immaterial.

BJ

 

[MacManTexas56]

For the most part, Apple users are stuck up and snobby. We're buying the most expensive product in each class (server, notebook, tablet, music player, mobile phone) when we could get 10% less experience for 50% less cost.

I don't see why anyone feels like we have to shy away from that perception or feel guilty about it. For the most part, we've earned it. And we don't run around putting down people who buy Netbooks at WalMart or get $10 Android phones from Virgin Mobile, so they shouldn't run around putting down people who can afford the best either.

Just as the average person has a right to discuss their averageness, the elite have the right to discuss their success. One shouldn't be ashamed of what one has accomplished, shouldn't feel embarrassed.

We are the 1%. Stand up, be proud of it. Don't fight the perception; embrace it.

BJ

seriously?

LOL

 

[boltjames]

seriously?

LOL

Yes, seriously.

BJ

 

[Smoother]

Interesting, the amount of knowledge you have about certain applications is a measurement for intelligence.

Understanding that not everyone is fully familiar with icloud requires a minimal amount of intelligence.

I'm just saying.

 

[Steviejobz]

Yes, seriously.

BJ

LOL. Did you just add Rolex to your sig?

You should join up with these dudes: http://www.occupyoccupywallstreet.org/

 

[Peace]

OP :

I respect the fact that you have 3 degrees but perhaps you should read the requirements before doing something :

"iCloud requires iOS 5 on iPhone 3GS or later, iPod touch (3rd and 4th generation), iPad, or iPad 2; a Mac computer with OS X Lion; or a PC with Windows Vista or Windows 7 (Outlook 2007 or 2010 or an up-to-date browser is required for accessing email, contacts, and calendars). Some features require a Wi-Fi connection. Some features are not available in all countries. Access to some services is limited to 10 devices.

 

[TonyC28]

The argument can be make that some CEO making $40M in annual salary and a $100M bonus is ridiculously compensated and there should be a cap on such things.

But you can't say that a corporate VP making $400K and a $100K bonus is a problem, nor should he be taxed or made to feel bad.

Anyway, not trying to make this thread political. Was just standing up for the right of the OP to mention his education in a public forum. It's no different than a student asking for advice on how to get an iPhone on a discount because he's unemployed. One post shouldn't be looked at as "honest" and the other as "conceited". One shouldn't be embraced and helped while the other chastised and outcast. Both are good people, both love Apple products, both are here to help others. The fact that they are in different social or educational classes is immaterial.

BJ

I wasn't really talking about income, although I agree with your points there. I was talking more about the people who were attacking the OP because he said he has three degrees. Clearly he wasn't bragging about that, he was trying to make a point that even for someone who is highly educated all this iCloud stuff comes off as complicated.

 

[jjp007]

Today I learned degrees are not an indication of intelligence.

and neither is the lack of one...geeeze people! Bullying on the internet is so 2001

 

[ntrigue]

There is not a lot of value to iCloud if:

a) you already have an exchange account of Google Apps.
b) multiple iOS devices with which to keep in sync.

 

[thelookingglass]

There is not a lot of value to iCloud if:

a) you already have an exchange account of Google Apps.
b) multiple iOS devices with which to keep in sync.

I don't completely agree. Setup for iCloud is much simpler than setting up an exchange account for Google apps. Enter an Apple ID and all of your info is instantly populated. Setting up an Exchange account for Google apps requires non-savvy users to choose Exchange instead of "Gmail" during their setup and then go through a whole host of unintuitive settings. These are all pretty big steps for your average iPhone user.

Google apps also potentially create two groups of calendars/contacts on a device, the Google calendar/contacts and a separate phone calendar/contacts. This can lead to some confusion when people save calendars/contacts in the wrong group and then wonder why that info isn't being synced correctly via Google.

My dad is a prime example of all of this. He was irritated by how unintuitive iOS 5 is when really he was just talking about setup of his Exchange account for Google apps. I switched him over to iCloud and, in the future, all he has to do when he gets a new device is enter his Apple ID. All of his info instantly appears. That's how technology ought to work.

Not sure what you mean in b). iCloud is EXCELLENT for keeping multiple iOS devices in sync. That's sort of the whole point.