I have #MacBookFear

[Mendota]

Interesting. You mean the "computer guy" claimed Mac OS is a derivative of Elementary Linux? Actually quite hilarious if he really said that. Its of course the other way round: Elementary's UI is heavily inspired by the Mac; so probably he mixed that up somehow.

Elementary is in no way a precursor of Mac OS. Not only is Elementary waaay to young, all its got in common is that both Mac OS and Linux are kinda Unix-ish, where Mac OS is actually derived from Unix, whereas Linux an attempt of a Unix reimplementation; or, as Linus Torvalds puts it: Unix-like.

Mac OS is based on the Mach kernel and in itself is derived from NeXTStep, which used some parts of FreeBSD's and NetBSD's Unix implementations.
Mac OS (Leopard, I am not aware if this is true for newer variants as well) is UNIX-compliant and was in parts certified.

Not that important really, this is just fyi. There is a fair bit of misinformation out there on Linux and Mac OS and how those are historically related, so I sometimes feel obligated to straighten that up.

Thank you. Always good to have the correct information. I knew that MacOS was based on FreeBSD a Unix variant but that was about the extent of it. I only try out these various systems, I am in no way an expert on Linux or Unix. But it is fun to set them up and use them from time to time. As for the computer person, his channel is called Explaining Computers and he has some pretty good info. One of my favorites was a video on Ubuntu Studio. He is pretty sharp so I may have just misunderstood him. He is really into it though so it might be interesting for you to check out, I use him as a source for finding new system to try out.

 

[MacModMachine]

Linux is interesting but it can be a pain in all the wrong places. It recovery from issues can be a nightmare, basically it always boots up to the command line, and you had better know what it wants. If not prepare to spend days searching for the right answer (command).

My last issue came out of the blue. I was working in Lib office and all of a sudden it sent up a cryptic error message. Then I realized it wouldn't save my document. Frustrated after 10 minutes I copied the whole thing to a note app just to have my work. It wouldn't save there either. Then I discovered that the drive had become read only! What the??!!! Then the whole thing fell apart, I couldn't even get into the settings. Rebooted and you guessed it... The command line waiting for the right input... The command window on my 4k screen was the size of a postage stamp... As it turns out the whole problem that brought the entire system to a halt was that the clock was wrong... Yes you read that right. A clock in the wrong time zone caused all those issues.

having worked with linux for 10 years now , after year one i moved most of my stuff to osx or linux. more a mix of both.

i can recover linux machines quicker than osx machines.

 

[Te0SX]

Yes, I am really concerned of purchasing a macbook and have delayed it a lot already. I am waiting for the new models and hopefully we'll see more than a new redesigned MBP 16.5" model. I need a new redesign keyboard at least to feel comfortable enough getting one macbook (even if it's Air or MBP). It has been 3-4 years with butterfly. It is disgusting they keep selling it in all their line up. For someone like me who wants a laptop for the next 4 years at least, not having the extra budget/sources (I'll need it more than hobby) sending his laptop back for services, living in a country without official Apple Store, away from a big a big city, even thinking buying one of them and having sticky keys is a nightmare. I am considering to change side and go with a Matebook X Pro, or HD Envy, ASUS VivoBook S, Lenovo IdeaPad 730s etc. I will need to sacrifice the switch, but at least I won't have to baby my laptop and worried back in my head about dust, heat (stickykeys, flexgate) etc.

 

[mattDC5R]

I was definitely holding off an upgrade due to reliability of the current gen machines, especially as I often work in dusty environments so the keyboard deal was really holding me back for what it would have cost.

In the end I just last week picked up a 2015 15" MBP, which has proven a much much needed and plenty fast enough replacement for the 2009 15" I was using. Bearing in mind 90% of my use saw Mac and Windows running side by side with plenty of use on both sides.

I held off too long. If you're holding off, hunt for a 2015. I paid $960 for a 2.5/512/16gb/M370x and it flies and for the price its a ripper. Im frankly astonished at how fast this thing is, I wouldn't say what I use it for is "heavy" but doing everything I usually do it does amaze me how quick it is.

 

[dazz87]

still running a 2014 macbook pro. Couple of minor issues but everything been great.....I dont myself doing a upgrade yet till maybe when they start using OLED screen instead of these LCD then I will made the upgrade and I dont mind going back to a windows machine either.

 

[jeyf]

apple inc; with the new homePod completely ground into the dirt marketing is looking for another product line to demote.
This has to be the mac book stuff i guess.