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RyanFlynn

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Besides games, would any other tasks see any meaningful improvement?
It’s significantly faster in Adobe Premier then my Vega ii or 5700x.
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Indeed, and I’d like to feel like my MP had a decent amount more power than the mew iMac ?

(yes I know the crazy-expensive Vega cards exist)
It’s about 2x faster than the Vega ii
 

RyanFlynn

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Lets hope apple sees this and lets us install drivers on OSX. I'm seriously considering switching to a PC build :(
 

flyproductions

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It’s significantly faster in Adobe Premier then my Vega ii or 5700x.
I don't know how much premiere/windows benefits of cuda. But as my earlier post shows even an old 5,1 with some GTX 1080 gets past an 8-core 7,1 with the W5700x in some tasks.
 

RyanFlynn

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That is some really odd bragging rights. I don’t see the point in putting that GPU in a Mac. Since you can’t use it with macOS you may as well build a PC with superior hardware to put it in.
Some of us need to use OS X only software, and windows only software
 

flyproductions

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Lets hope apple sees this and lets us install drivers on OSX. I'm seriously considering switching to a PC build :(
It is now the time showing how much Apple betted on the wrong horse. The fastest GPUs supported in Mac OS today are at least one and a half if not two generations left behind.

...but it doesn't stop them from still charging premium for those "yesterday's heroes".:rolleyes:
 

OkiRun

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That is some really odd bragging rights. I don’t see the point in putting that GPU in a Mac. Since you can’t use it with macOS you may as well build a PC with superior hardware to put it in.
Buying Mac Pro 7,1 to play games is like buying Texas Instrument Calculator so can spell OIL upside-down.
 
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SilverB

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Buying Mac Pro 7,1 to play games is like buying Texas Instrument Calculator so can spell OIL upside-down.

TBF, I dont think anyone is buying the Mac Pro to game, but for example, someone like myself who bought one for full time proffessional use, spending a bit extra to put an RTX 3080 in it to have a complete gaming machine on Windows as well doesn't seem so silly at all. One machine, with two usecases. Zero point in someone in my scenario to go and buy another seperate PC just to game on the side occasionally.
 

RyanFlynn

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TBF, I dont think anyone is buying the Mac Pro to game, but for example, someone like myself who bought one for full time proffessional use, spending a bit extra to put an RTX 3080 in it to have a complete gaming machine on Windows as well doesn't seem so silly at all. One machine, with two usecases. Zero point in someone in my scenario to go and buy another seperate PC just to game on the side occasionally.

exactly
 
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ArPe

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Under 30k? Somethign does not sound right there, My W5700X gets over 70k.

Luxball not Geekbench. The 3080 gets 200,000 on Geekbench 5 OpenCL and 240,000 with CUDA.

In Luxmark the focus should be on the hard Hotel test.
 

eflx

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Really a shame Apple dropped support for Nvidia. These Radeon cards are quite literally a joke. AMD graphics cards are generally plagued with driver issues, and 1-2x generations behind in performance and features. At the prices Apple charges, it's robbery.

It's a shame everything else is so good about the Apple ecosystem, and their hardware & software in general. One thing Apple really needs to take seriously is hardware video acceleration. It seems like Apple is plagued by poor showings in the graphics department.

C'mon Apple ...
 
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collin_

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Wait, so Macs can use NVIDIA cards if they're running Windows? o.o Very interesting and I am quite jealous of your setup :) Thanks for sharing
 
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flyproductions

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Wait, so Macs can use NVIDIA cards if they're running Windows? o.o Very interesting and I am quite jealous of your setup :) Thanks for sharing
Sure! As any other Windows machine. Why should they not?

Even the ones supported by Mac OS perform better in Win. For my GTX 1080 i get about 30% higher scores in benchmarks with Windows 10 compared to Mac OS, High Sierra.
 
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vel0city

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Awesome setup OP, I would totally spring for a workstation like yours (we're in a similar line of work) if the Mac would recognise the Nvidia GPU. It's beyond frustrating that we can't run the GPUs that we want in OSX. I absolutely despise this about Apple computers.
 

MisterAndrew

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Really a shame Apple dropped support for Nvidia. These Radeon cards are quite literally a joke. AMD graphics cards are generally plagued with driver issues, and 1-2x generations behind in performance and features. At the prices Apple charges, it's robbery.

It's a shame everything else is so good about the Apple ecosystem, and their hardware & software in general. One thing Apple really needs to take seriously is hardware video acceleration. It seems like Apple is plagued by poor showings in the graphics department.

C'mon Apple ...

I've had more driver issues with Nvidia than AMD. The Nvidia web driver would often make the system unstable. There have been glitches with the AMD driver supplied by Apple for various GPUs, including Vega, Pitcairn, and most recently Navi, but the system was still generally stable.
 

RyanFlynn

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Awesome setup OP, I would totally spring for a workstation like yours (we're in a similar line of work) if the Mac would recognise the Nvidia GPU. It's beyond frustrating that we can't run the GPUs that we want in OSX. I absolutely despise this about Apple computers.
Yeah, I’m close to jumping ship. We will see what the next gen threadripper chips look like. But selling my Mac Pro, and building a 64 core thread ripper with a 3090 is pretty tempting
 

Kcetech1

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Yeah, I’m close to jumping ship. We will see what the next gen threadripper chips look like. But selling my Mac Pro, and building a 64 core thread ripper with a 3090 is pretty tempting

With some testing this week internally at work we decided to jump ship on our last Mac pros.. for Threadrippers

The crazies in the basement built up a big Dual Xeon unit and a TR 3990X test bed. even having just the new PCIE 4.0 SSD's made a massive world of difference @ 4871MB/s. with a couple 3080's on it well ...... rendering was a freaking slaughter.

Just wish it would take the same amount of ram as the Epyc chips
 

RyanFlynn

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With some testing this week internally at work we decided to jump ship on our last Mac pros.. for Threadrippers

The crazies in the basement built up a big Dual Xeon unit and a TR 3990X test bed. even having just the new PCIE 4.0 SSD's made a massive world of difference @ 4871MB/s. with a couple 3080's on it well ...... rendering was a freaking slaughter.

Just wish it would take the same amount of ram as the Epyc chips
That’s almost exactly what I did.
I went with a 32 core 3970x, 255gb of ram and a single 3090. This thing mops the floor with the Mac Pro I spent 30k on for less than a quarter the price!
 

Kcetech1

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That’s almost exactly what I did.
I went with a 32 core 3970x, 255gb of ram and a single 3090. This thing mops the floor with the Mac Pro I spent 30k on for less than a quarter the price!

The guys want to do another one with 4 3090's and set it up with UnRaid so they can make a single threadripper computer act as 2 workstations with 2 GPU's each to test performance. they think a Single box could run loops around a Pair of 30K units. easily even with only about 512GB of Ram to each VM
 
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IA64

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That’s almost exactly what I did.
I went with a 32 core 3970x, 255gb of ram and a single 3090. This thing mops the floor with the Mac Pro I spent 30k on for less than a quarter the price!

The 3970X mops the floor with the 28 Core Mac Pro? Are you sure? benchmarks please ?
 

Kcetech1

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one that specifically applied to me .... Boys downstairs have a few I think. I cant speak for the 3970 but the 3990x ... and a Pair of xeon 8280's couldnt keep up working with RED exports and conversions.
 

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