I ordered a Seagate t-bolt connector.

[fgullama]

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FWIW, I get sleep issues with the Seagate Thunderbolt GoFlex 2.5" adapter with any drive. It's completely random though. I know it's the GoFlex adapter because sleep has never failed to resume with no drives plugged in. I've even seen this issue with the FW800 GoFlex 2.5" adapter.

I also played with the Elgato cable yesterday. It was very flexible and I like the length for mobile use. Elgato calls it out specifically for mobile use so I think that's their rationale behind charging more. The connectors seem to get hotter than the Apple cable.

With an iMac 27, Corsair GT240 SSD, Apple Thunderbolt cable, and the GoFlex I have had no issues waking from sleep. I think I've had one or two random issues in 2+ months with this setup. I let my machine/put my machine to sleep all the time. I'm certain it's a deep sleep as the light on the GoFlex goes off with the screen/etc. I wonder if most of these issues are related to power draw and the Mac Mini's as has been theorized here. For iMac users, I'm still happy to report this setup has been performing properly.

I did have to install an app called PleaseSleep to get the iMac to fully sleep... I'm not sure if this was already an issue before I migrated/cloned over to the SSD or not. I'm guessing this has to do more with some other peripheral I have plugged in and not the GoFlex. I've just been too lazy to look into it more as it works fine with PleaseSleep

Frank

 

[Maila87]

I ONLY SLEEP the screen not the computer I have the mushkin 240gb and it works fine. It awakes the screen each morning no problems.

Are you sleeping both computer and screen? What else is hookuped to your machine?

BTW I never had a good patriot ssd only had 3 but all had issues.

I have set sleep to whole iMac.
This is my second Pyro - first were defective. So I will try to change it for different SSD.

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FWIW, I get sleep issues with the Seagate Thunderbolt GoFlex 2.5" adapter with any drive. It's completely random though. I know it's the GoFlex adapter because sleep has never failed to resume with no drives plugged in. I've even seen this issue with the FW800 GoFlex 2.5" adapter.

I also played with the Elgato cable yesterday. It was very flexible and I like the length for mobile use. Elgato calls it out specifically for mobile use so I think that's their rationale behind charging more. The connectors seem to get hotter than the Apple cable.

Strangely this occur only when into GoFlex SSD Pyro. With 2,5" HDD it works fine with cloned system.

 

[Maila87]

All my issues with Thunderbolt and GoFlex cured OS X 10.8 Mountain Lion DP3

 

[P4G]

Whats the verdict?

besides the extra cost of the tb cable and the adaptor, is the performance of an external ssd going to be similar to an internal ssd? Is this a viable alternative to pulling the mac mini apart?

 

[John Kotches]

Via thunderbolt? Should be about the same, but with the extra you'd be spending on the t-bolt parts you could upgrade to a larger SSD.

 

[fgullama]

Thunderbolt SSD Disconnects...

I hate to be writing this...

Last night I woke up my iMac 27/Seagate STEA121/Corsair GT240 combo and was greeted to a spinning beach ball...

I tried a reboot, and upon rebooting opened the Disk Utility. My SSD vanished in front of my eyes from the Disk Utility view. I hard powered down, and another reboot later no SSD in Disk Utility (Disk Utility came back up automatically). More spinning beach ball, and after waiting a bit, a kernel panic.

My question is, has anybody had any success using the Elgato Thunderbolt cable when they were previously having disconnects with other SSD's using the Apple Thunderbolt cable? I guess it's wishful thinking, but I'm hoping perhaps swapping the cable out will cure this problem.

It's just very strange (and disappointing). I've had great success with this combo for months now.

Any help would be appreciated!

Frank

 

[paulrbeers]

My question is, has anybody had any success using the Elgato Thunderbolt cable when they were previously having disconnects with other SSD's using the Apple Thunderbolt cable? I guess it's wishful thinking, but I'm hoping perhaps swapping the cable out will cure this problem.

Do you have any other way to validate that the SSD isn't hosed? Rather than spending money on a cable and crossing your fingers?

 

[philipma1957]

Whats the verdict?

besides the extra cost of the tb cable and the adaptor, is the performance of an external ssd going to be similar to an internal ssd? Is this a viable alternative to pulling the mac mini apart?

The verdict is a push for all the threads on I busted my mini replacing the internal drive. There are a few my external t-bolt does not work. I have great success with my lacie setup uses 2 lbd's makes a 768 gb raid 0 ssd but I use samsung 256gb series 810 ssds. (very reliable)

The external seagate/t-bolt with a 256gb or less ssd seems to work well.

My mushkin 240gb worked well. To be honest I prefer the lacie only because it is bigger 768gb lets me run everything I want.

 

[fgullama]

Do you have any other way to validate that the SSD isn't hosed? Rather than spending money on a cable and crossing your fingers?

I have to do some testing, hopefully tonight. I don't have another SSD to test with unfortunately. It's a new SSD that I've had zero issues with up until now, and considering all the comments I've read about folks having disconnect problems with SSD's and the Seagate Thunderbolt connector, I'm guessing I might be the latest victim. I'm still curious whether or not people that previously have had disconnect issues with SSD's have had any better luck with the Elgato cable, or if anybody has tried.

I'll post back with my findings when I have more time to troubleshoot.

Frank

 

[shortcut3d]

I hate to be writing this...

Last night I woke up my iMac 27/Seagate STEA121/Corsair GT240 combo and was greeted to a spinning beach ball...

I tried a reboot, and upon rebooting opened the Disk Utility. My SSD vanished in front of my eyes from the Disk Utility view. I hard powered down, and another reboot later no SSD in Disk Utility (Disk Utility came back up automatically). More spinning beach ball, and after waiting a bit, a kernel panic.

My question is, has anybody had any success using the Elgato Thunderbolt cable when they were previously having disconnects with other SSD's using the Apple Thunderbolt cable? I guess it's wishful thinking, but I'm hoping perhaps swapping the cable out will cure this problem.

It's just very strange (and disappointing). I've had great success with this combo for months now.

Any help would be appreciated!

Frank

As previously posted, I had a similar experience using an Apple Thunderbolt cable for extended period of time. The cable is now completely unreliable in any of three Thunderbolt equipped Macs that I have. My 512GB Samsung 830 was just returned from testing in a PC. I'll give it a go with the El Gato cable tonight.

 

[fgullama]

As previously posted, I had a similar experience using an Apple Thunderbolt cable for extended period of time. The cable is now completely unreliable in any of three Thunderbolt equipped Macs that I have. My 512GB Samsung 830 was just returned from testing in a PC. I'll give it a go with the El Gato cable tonight.

Most appreciated. I'm going to make sure I have a completely updated time machine backup and play around a bit tonight. Wouldn't you know it, after being off for 24 hours the machine booted right up and is acting fine today. I ran a disk check and Black Magic test and everything looked to be what I would expect. Granted. I am not pushing the machine hard, but I did all those large data set tests back a couple of months ago.

When you say the Apple Thunderbolt cable is unreliable, is that only in testing with the STAE121 with your Macs, or other Thunderbolt peripherals as well?

If it just ends up being the cable, I'm not sure what recourse I'll have returning it to Amazon, but unreliable is not worth it at any cost!

Frank

 

[fgullama]

Most appreciated. I'm going to make sure I have a completely updated time machine backup and play around a bit tonight. Wouldn't you know it, after being off for 24 hours the machine booted right up and is acting fine today. I ran a disk check and Black Magic test and everything looked to be what I would expect. Granted. I am not pushing the machine hard, but I did all those large data set tests back a couple of months ago.

When you say the Apple Thunderbolt cable is unreliable, is that only in testing with the STAE121 with your Macs, or other Thunderbolt peripherals as well?

If it just ends up being the cable, I'm not sure what recourse I'll have returning it to Amazon, but unreliable is not worth it at any cost!

Frank

Interesting...

I was getting disconnects during trying to perform a full time machine backup (165gb of data) so I decided to reverse the Thunderbolt cable. Upon reboot, the Seagate STAE121 is not even lighting up/detected (the machine booted to the internal drive). If I switch the cable to the other Thunderbolt port, the STEA121 lights up and the OS boots fine. I have resumed my backup now.

I don't know if this is pointing to heat semi-frying the Thunderbolt port on the iMac, a semi-fried cable, the Seagate misbehaving, or none of the above!

Beat

Frank

 

[shortcut3d]

Seagate Thunderbolt GoFlex 2.5" adapter + El Gato Thunderbolt Cable Success

I was able to perform a large file copy (+7GB) to and from the 512GB Samsung 830 SSD using the Seagate Thunderbolt GoFlex 2.5" adapter and El Gato Thunderbolt cable. I even performed an overwrite copy to the 512GB Samsung 830 SSD. I repeated the test with multiple H.264 1080p m4v files which are incompressible data. Previously, with the Apple Thunderbolt cable these test would fail. I was also able to do the 5GB test with Black Magic Disk Speed Test. AJA 16GB test was also successful. The OSX drive is an internal 480GB OWC Mercury Extreme Pro, so its fast enough for source data.

 

[shortcut3d]

I was able to successfully copy 214GB of H.264 m4v movies (largest single file size 11GB) in Windows 7 Professional 64-bit in Boot Camp. This demonstrates stability was not improved in one of the recent OSX Lion updates. The new stability is a direct result of the El Gato Thunderbolt cable.

Immediately following these successes with the El Gato cable, I attempted to write Avatar H.264 m4v (11GB) to the 512GB Samsung 830 SSD using the Apple Thunderbolt cable. The result was instance disconnect error message.

 

[fgullama]

I was able to successfully copy 214GB of H.264 m4v movies (largest single file size 11GB) in Windows 7 Professional 64-bit in Boot Camp. This demonstrates stability was not improved in one of the recent OSX Lion updates. The new stability is a direct result of the El Gato Thunderbolt cable.

Immediately following these successes with the El Gato cable, I attempted to write Avatar H.264 m4v (11GB) to the 512GB Samsung 830 SSD using the Apple Thunderbolt cable. The result was instance disconnect error message.

Thanks. I really appreciate your efforts. I find it interesting that I'm having no issues plugged into the other Thunderbolt port on my iMac with the same Apple cable, but I'll have the Elgato Thunderbolt Cable on Thursday to test more. I hope the Thunderbolt port on my iMac isn't messed up!

Frank

 

[shortcut3d]

The tests from yesterday were the most stable results for a large (480GB+) SATA III 6.0gbps SSD.

 

[shortcut3d]

Windows 7 Boot Camp on Thunderbolt

I am successfully booting my Windows 7 Professional x64 instance from the Seagate Thunderbolt GoFlex 2.5" adapter. This discovery was accidental as I'm trying to figure out how to copy my Boot Camp drive with the AHCI patched code.bin (to enable AHCI). I used Carbon Copy Cloner to copy the Boot Camp drive using block copy. I installed the 512GB Samsung 830 and attempted to boot. I have been unsuccessful. However, I decided to change copy software so I connected the 240GB OCZ Vertex 3 Boot Camp drive into the Seagate Thunderbolt GoFlex and booted from it without thinking. I realized after that I just booted from Windows from an external drive.

OTP: Does anyone know how to clone a 100% Boot Camp drive with the AHCI hack applied?

 

[shortcut3d]

FWIW, You can move your bootcamp partition to an SSD in the external Seagate Thunderbolt GoFlex 2.5" adapter very easily with Norton Ghost 15. The software is free with the Samsung 830 SSDs. Simply install Norton Ghost in your Boot Camp Windows 7 instance and clone to the destination drive. The destination drive should be unallocated space and DO NOT assign a drive letter. Make sure to copy the MBR as well. This captures the blessing that the Boot Camp utility puts on the drive, so it can be selected from the boot menu. You must delete or remove original the bootcamp partition before trying to boot from the external Thunderbolt drive. If not you will get a nasty OS drive letter conflict locking you out of Windows 7. You can also move between like Intel based Macs (i.e. - Sandybridge Mac mini to Sandybridge Macbook Pro). The graphics drivers will need to be reinstalled if going from an Intel HD 3000 only to an AMD GPU.

 

[Supra Mac]

Has anyone done a clone with superduper and seen what speeds you got vs a file transfer?

I'm interested in faster backups as well as file transfers, right now on firewire800 SSD to SSD. Get around 40MB/s with superduper, while file transfers are more like 75MB/s. Not interested in using time machine.

Thanks.

 

[philipma1957]

Has anyone done a clone with superduper and seen what speeds you got vs a file transfer?

I'm interested in faster backups as well as file transfers, right now on firewire800 SSD to SSD. Get around 40MB/s with superduper, while file transfers are more like 75MB/s. Not interested in using time machine.

Thanks.

yes it depends on the other drives involved in the clone. the internal oem hdd is slow so no matter what it is attached to it won't clone faster then 60-75 mbs. now if you have ssd in the mini and a sdd in the seagate it clones over 150mbs.

frankly the lacie lbd modded with 2 ssds is better for clones. the seagate is better as an external osx drive.

 

[Supra Mac]

yes it depends on the other drives involved in the clone. the internal oem hdd is slow so no matter what it is attached to it won't clone faster then 60-75 mbs. now if you have ssd in the mini and a sdd in the seagate it clones over 150mbs.

frankly the lacie lbd modded with 2 ssds is better for clones. the seagate is better as an external osx drive.

Thanks. I using Crucial M4s in everything.

 

[Ace1024]

In Australia, they're quoting the adapter as STAE126, instead of STAE121 as mentioned on this thread. Is there any difference? http://www.amazon.co.uk/Seagate-STAE126-Storage-controller-Thunderbolt/dp/B007MUJZKW

Also, i've just purchased the Sandisk Extreme 240g. Would I need to enable TRIM for this device (with the adapter) on OSX? I'm planning to use it as a boot drive for my iMac.

 

[Chippy99]

Also, i've just purchased the Sandisk Extreme 240g. Would I need to enable TRIM for this device (with the adapter) on OSX? I'm planning to use it as a boot drive for my iMac.

I am running that SSD, that adapter, Lion 10.7.4 with TRIM enabled and its all working perfectly.

Be aware that you won't get the full theoretical performance of the SSD through the adapter though - I get around 370MB/s reads and 250MB/s writes. Whether you'd notice the difference, I doubt.

 

[philipma1957]

In Australia, they're quoting the adapter as STAE126, instead of STAE121 as mentioned on this thread. Is there any difference? http://www.amazon.co.uk/Seagate-STAE126-Storage-controller-Thunderbolt/dp/B007MUJZKW

Also, i've just purchased the Sandisk Extreme 240g. Would I need to enable TRIM for this device (with the adapter) on OSX? I'm planning to use it as a boot drive for my iMac.

I think it is a typo.


http://www.seagate.com/gb/en/external-hard-drives/accessories/#

on this link it is stae121.

here is a photo of the box on the back it reads stae121. when I search seagate stae126 does not appear.

 

[Ace1024]

I think it is a typo.


http://www.seagate.com/gb/en/external-hard-drives/accessories/#

on this link it is stae121.

here is a photo of the box on the back it reads stae121. when I search seagate stae126 does not appear.

The issue is/was that every online store in Australia quotes it as STAE126. I'm pretty sure it's the same thing. I'll get it in the mail either tomorrow or Friday and find out then.

UPDATE:
It is STAE126. It's exactly the same; simply different model numbers for different markets.