It's really not about RAM, it's about money. When people say they want the base models to have 16 GB RAM, they're not saying, e.g., that the base M1 Air should be the $1200 16/256 model instead of the $1000 8/256 model (which would solve the problem, right?). Instead, they're saying the 16/256 model should sell for the current $1000 base price.
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I refuse to buy an Apple Silicon Mac with only 8 GB RAM!
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I think that like the rest of us, you have free will and you are allowed to buy what you want, and not buy what you don't want.
I'm going to buy groceries now. I believe that I should be able to buy Romaine lettuce without having to get those pre-bagged Caesar salads. Should I start a thread about it and ask for input? 🥗
Well then, good for you! I guess…
Whats the point of these kind of troll posts?
Whats the point of these kind of troll posts?
I just got an M1 16gb and it’s great.
The issue with waiting for the 16gb base spec, is by then the prices will prob all have lifted anyway, or what is reasonable for a base so you’re paying for It either way..
Pay now or pay later.
M1 air was ahead of its time in performance which is why value is still there now.
My opinion now anyway.. was considering and m2 base v m1 16gb at Time due to budget.
I think this doesn't need another thread to discuss the same complaint.
Here’s the thing, Apple is the king of marketing strategy. They know if they include 16GB of RAM in all their computers, people will just lock that in and not upgrade. What’s even more ludicrous is the amount of SSD they sold with an extremely underspecd Mac Pro.
But to your point, 8GB of RAM was standard in a MacBook Pro in 2012. Even the 13” MacBook Pro. Obviously the technology has changed and the price of RAM has dropped, but they’re using faster better RAM also.
So if you get your wish, Apple adds $200 to the price tag and has 16GB RAM. And the truth is, the average user doing Keynote or Pages documents while they surf the web just don’t need 16GB of RAM. So all it would do is raise the price for everyone.
On another note, I think what Apple is doing with the iPhone is based on demand. Apple knows people will buy the upgraded iPhone 14 Pro Max for the new less notch and more i-shape hole cutout. So why not raise the prices. They’re using a 4nm SoC and better cameras and so on. I fully expect Apple moves forward with price increases in its pro lineups. But I think it would be a huge mistake to increase prices in the iPhone 14 and iPhone 14 Max lineup. They should keep those at the relative same price. 14 should be the same as 13 and 14 Max should cost $100 more. So when you take out the mini you take out a choice. And with the price rising, maybe Apple is trying to push people to the 14 Max. But if they raise prices across the board, they’re just positioning because so many companies are raising prices right now blaming it on inflation.
It will be interesting to see what happens, but we all know that this Apple ecosystem is what keeps us here. It’s really good and sticky. Makes it hard to jump ship and for what, an equally overpriced HP/Dell computer, an equally overpriced Samsung Smartphone, or God forbid even worse is the Samsung tablets running that awful OS.
Bottom line, suck it up and pay the extra $200 for the 16GB of RAM or you miss out on the best computers on the planet, right now.
But to your point, 8GB of RAM was standard in a MacBook Pro in 2012. Even the 13” MacBook Pro. Obviously the technology has changed and the price of RAM has dropped, but they’re using faster better RAM also.
So if you get your wish, Apple adds $200 to the price tag and has 16GB RAM. And the truth is, the average user doing Keynote or Pages documents while they surf the web just don’t need 16GB of RAM. So all it would do is raise the price for everyone.
On another note, I think what Apple is doing with the iPhone is based on demand. Apple knows people will buy the upgraded iPhone 14 Pro Max for the new less notch and more i-shape hole cutout. So why not raise the prices. They’re using a 4nm SoC and better cameras and so on. I fully expect Apple moves forward with price increases in its pro lineups. But I think it would be a huge mistake to increase prices in the iPhone 14 and iPhone 14 Max lineup. They should keep those at the relative same price. 14 should be the same as 13 and 14 Max should cost $100 more. So when you take out the mini you take out a choice. And with the price rising, maybe Apple is trying to push people to the 14 Max. But if they raise prices across the board, they’re just positioning because so many companies are raising prices right now blaming it on inflation.
It will be interesting to see what happens, but we all know that this Apple ecosystem is what keeps us here. It’s really good and sticky. Makes it hard to jump ship and for what, an equally overpriced HP/Dell computer, an equally overpriced Samsung Smartphone, or God forbid even worse is the Samsung tablets running that awful OS.
Bottom line, suck it up and pay the extra $200 for the 16GB of RAM or you miss out on the best computers on the planet, right now.
Base minis for sale in my area: 1 at $400, 1 at $450. Most $500 - $525. There are very few 16 GB models and those have asks with much less of a discount.
Nope, OpenCore is just another way of building an Hackintosh and, like any Hackintosh, has very specific hardware limitations:
Hardware Limitations | OpenCore Install Guide
dortania.github.io
Plus it has all the other usual issues that come with a Hackintosh (it's a fun hobby for those who want to play with their PC, but not an viable option for those who just want to buy a Mac and get work done on it) (I'm not saying you can't do work on a Hackintosh, nor am I criticizing the Hackintosh community, which seems pretty cool; rather, I'm saying you have to spend a significant percentage of time monkeying around with your PC--especially when Apple breaks it with an OS update--rather than getting stuff done). Your claim misleadingly omits all that.
And after Apple stops producing OS's that run Intel, you'll no longer be able to keep your Hackintosh updated, which is unfortunate for the Hackintosh community.
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Well it’s a known fact that’s its a RAM hog. I recommend edge if you need chrome extensions.
Well, I estimate that Apple will drop Intel support in 2029 or 2030. That’s based off of accounting for seven years of extra lifespan for the 2019 MacPro after it’s discontinued at the end of the year and for a little more time until they discontinued support.
I agree.
The customers who buy those things likely expect extended support timeframes and Apple needs to show the commitment on those systems to sell their new systems.
Well, that’s when they become officially vintage. And such has happened to the 2010 Mac Pro. And 2008 MBP
That doesn't mean they will keep getting new versions of macOS. I just means that Apple will keep parts around to repair that Mac if/when needed.
Not a good option for those that need to use websites that run best on Chrome (I use a few of those). They will also run on Firefox (not so well on Safari), but Chrome is best. These are obviously not simple websites--they're ones that contain complex interactive programs.
I also use one for which Firefox is recommended over Chrome.
Also the 2014 MBP technically get software support through the latest update of Big Sur
That’s why I recommended edge if you need chrome extensions
You misunderstand. I'm not using any Chrome extensions. I'm referring to online interactive applications that are more stable in Chrome than in other browsers.
Anyways, as long as you don’t spend too much money, I wouldn’t feel like you’re wasting money if you got a Hackintosh.
Again, that doesn't mean they will be getting new versions of macOS until 2029 or 2030.