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theorist9

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I know edge is a chromium based browser
Yeah, but it's not Chrome. And when I talked to tech support at the companies for these respective programs, and asked them if one specific browser is more problem free for them than any other, they both said Chrome. Maybe Edge would work as well, but I've no need to take the time to do the experiment to find out, since they have indeed performed well inside Chrome, and I've got enough RAM (32 GB) that I don't need to worry.
 

Apple Fan 2008

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May 17, 2021
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Florida, USA 🇺🇸
Yeah, but it's not Chrome. And when I talked to tech support at the companies for these respective programs, and asked them if one specific browser is more problem free for them than any other, they both said Chrome. Maybe Edge would work as well, but I've no need to take the time to do the experiment to find out, since they have indeed performed well inside Chrome, and I've got enough RAM (32 GB) that I don't need to worry.
If you have that much ram, then that’s fine.
 

pastrychef

macrumors 601
Sep 15, 2006
4,754
1,453
New York City, NY
As I already said, the 2010 Mac Pro the, 2008 MacBook Pro and other such computers.

Ah yes, MacPro5,1. The 2010 models were discontinued in 2012 and the 2012 models were discontinued in 2013. Last officially supported version of macOS was Mojave which was released in 2018. That's 6 years for the 2010 models and 5 years for the 2013.

The MacBookPro4,1 was discontinued in 2009. Last officially supported version of macOS was El Capitan which was released in 2015. That's 6 years.
 

ian87w

macrumors G3
Feb 22, 2020
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12,638
Indonesia
For the premium prices Apple charges I do think the base RAM should be bumped to 16 gigs. They know people will keep paying though for upgraded machines with 16 gigs of RAM or more. So if they were to remove the base 8 they would lose money. I seriously doubt there is a huge price difference on the backend between 8 gigs and 16 gigs. Apple is slow to do this, they did this for ages with the 64 gig iPhone, that storage option was way past over due to being bumped up to 128 gig.
This is intentional strategy for planned obsolescence, by only making 8GB RAM as the only available pre-configured models. Apple know that most of the sales will be on the base and pre configured models as they’re the ones most widely available in retail. We already see that 8GB of RAM just doesn’t cut it anymore for modern computing tasks. It will only be doing more swap, and thus reducing the SSD life quicker. Thus I can see many users of base models will be quickly looking for an upgrade in less than 5 years. Win win for Apple. They have higher margin and quicker upgrades in the future.
 

Apple Fan 2008

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May 17, 2021
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Ah yes, MacPro5,1. The 2010 models were discontinued in 2012 and the 2012 models were discontinued in 2013. Last officially supported version of macOS was Mojave which was released in 2018. That's 6 years for the 2010 models and 5 years for the 2013.

The MacBookPro4,1 was discontinued in 2009. Last officially supported version of macOS was El Capitan which was released in 2015. That's 6 years.
That’s correct sorry
 

wonderings

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Nov 19, 2021
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This is intentional strategy for planned obsolescence, by only making 8GB RAM as the only available pre-configured models. Apple know that most of the sales will be on the base and pre configured models as they’re the ones most widely available in retail. We already see that 8GB of RAM just doesn’t cut it anymore for modern computing tasks. It will only be doing more swap, and thus reducing the SSD life quicker. Thus I can see many users of base models will be quickly looking for an upgrade in less than 5 years. Win win for Apple. They have higher margin and quicker upgrades in the future.
Of course it is, which is why I find it funny when people hold Apple up over all the other companies like they are something different, something good and just in a sea of evil tech companies. Apple the great white knight. In fact they are huge data miners and I would guess have the greatest source of user data over any other company in the world. From health data to web browsing, they track it all.
 
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Apple Fan 2008

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May 17, 2021
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Of course it is, which is why I find it funny when people hold Apple up over all the other companies like they are something different, something good and just in a sea of evil tech companies. Apple the great white knight. In fact they are huge data miners and I would guess have the greatest source of user data over any other company in the world. From health data to web browsing, they track it all.
First of all they have privacy measures so they do not track, also Apple supports their products, the longest with hardware support, software support, etc. Even though windows is compatible with more computers. A lot of the software is not compatible with those.
 
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Apple Fan 2008

macrumors 65816
May 17, 2021
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Florida, USA 🇺🇸
This is intentional strategy for planned obsolescence, by only making 8GB RAM as the only available pre-configured models. Apple know that most of the sales will be on the base and pre configured models as they’re the ones most widely available in retail. We already see that 8GB of RAM just doesn’t cut it anymore for modern computing tasks. It will only be doing more swap, and thus reducing the SSD life quicker. Thus I can see many users of base models will be quickly looking for an upgrade in less than 5 years. Win win for Apple. They have higher margin and quicker upgrades in the future.
This is what everyone in the industry has is their computer. you rarely find a computer at that price with much more ram.
 

pastrychef

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Sep 15, 2006
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New York City, NY
Of course it is, which is why I find it funny when people hold Apple up over all the other companies like they are something different, something good and just in a sea of evil tech companies. Apple the great white knight. In fact they are huge data miners and I would guess have the greatest source of user data over any other company in the world. From health data to web browsing, they track it all.

If the data is anonymous and not linked to individuals. Is there harm?
 

ian87w

macrumors G3
Feb 22, 2020
8,704
12,638
Indonesia
This is what everyone in the industry has is their computer. you rarely find a computer at that price with much more ram.
Are you serious? More and more Windows laptops at $1000-$1500 segment nowadays Come with 16GB of RAM, with many cheaper ones sporting that amount of RAM as well.

We are no longer in the 90s where RAM was ultra expensive. RAM and SSDs are cheap nowadays.
 
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