I returned my iPad Pro

[DNichter]

I've been really happy with my 10.5 Pro since I moved to iOS only for my computing needs. I probably don't need the features of the Pro, but I appreciate them, have the money, and it makes using my computer a better experience. I am looking forward to the X redesign this year.

 

[sracer]

No lag or stutter yet, and still love the functionality of the S3. No way am I going back to the iPad. The iPad might be pretty to look at and have a faster processor, but the functionality is no where near as good as the S3. My wife just bailed on her iPad mini for the 8" S2 and is in love with that one.

I can understand that. The Lenovo Yoga Book (Android version) is virtually everything that I was hoping that the iPad Pro would be. I haven't bailed on the iPad Pro, but my experience with the Yoga Book has shown me just how far the iPad Pro needs to go (sadly, a place that Apple doesn't want to take it)

 

[MarkB786]

I can understand that. The Lenovo Yoga Book (Android version) is virtually everything that I was hoping that the iPad Pro would be. I haven't bailed on the iPad Pro, but my experience with the Yoga Book has shown me just how far the iPad Pro needs to go (sadly, a place that Apple doesn't want to take it)

Agree. The iPad has so much potential, but Apple has intentionally constrained it in far too many ways. I can see for some that the simplicity, control, and constraint inherent in the iPad might be ok. But for some of us using the tablet as a true productivity tool, the iPad just does not cut it, even if the S3 or others are not as slick or stutter a bit.

 

[ggibson913]

I always wait until mid-product cycle for the inevitable holiday sales period. This year I got a 256 GB 10.5 iPad Pro for $125 off the retail price. I love the 10.5 Pro it is the perfect Shuttlecraft to my iMac at home.

 

[Altis]

We got the 12.9" Pro for my parents for Xmas and they're thinking of returning it. They're having a bit of a hard time adjusting to iOS 11 compared with probably iOS 7 or 8 on their Air 1. The UI has gone downhill quite a bit in terms of knowing how to make it do what you want to do.

For example, on the massive 12.9" display, in the App store the icon to download an app (that they previously downloaded) was a thin blue outline trace of a cloud, about the size of my pinky nail. Things like that are such inexcusably poor UI design.

They only really want it for FaceTime anyhow though so their Air 1 might be the way to go for now. They use a desktop for most of everything else.

 

[xx22]

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[Neodym]

Apple released a new 2 GB iPad model in 2017. That is as good as any indication that 2GB iPads will be useful for quite a bit longer.

However, Apple is infamous for being stingy with Ram on their (especially entry) devices and increasing it only when they can't stretch it out any longer, so to me that indicator is not too reliable, depending on use case (as always).

 

[jerry70450]

I wish they went back to simplifying their line up. The iPad is the iPad. Why make pro and not pro? And I'm also pissed they didn't allow for Apple Pencil on the basic iPad. As a student all I need is to write notes, not video edit or photo edit. The basic iPad + pencil would work well for me.

 

[sracer]

I wish they went back to simplifying their line up. The iPad is the iPad. Why make pro and not pro? And I'm also pissed they didn't allow for Apple Pencil on the basic iPad. As a student all I need is to write notes, not video edit or photo edit. The basic iPad + pencil would work well for me.

I suspect that a major reason for the added models is to expand the pricing structure. The iPad line now ranges in price from $324 up to and over $1000. They can't do that with just one model with different storage capacities.

The fact that you'd be satisfied with a basic iPad and Pencil is EXACTLY the reason why Apple doesn't offer it. You have to cough up a lot more for that capability.

Although I have a 12.9 iPad Pro and Apple Pencil, there are times when I'll use my iPad Mini 4 + DotPen stylus. Why would I use a technically-speaking inferior combination? Because it can be more convenient. Yes, the DotPen doesn't offer pressure sensitivity or palm rejection, but by using an art glove (I made my own for $0.50), I can jot notes and sketch in a very similar way that I use my iPad Pro and Apple Pencil.

If you have a non-Pro iPad, you might want to consider getting a powered capacitive stylus (like the DotPen, but NOT the bluetooth styli) and an art glove (or $1 store white cotton glove/white medial glove from CVS, and cut off the thumb, index, and middle fingers)

Here's a link to the DotPen.
https://www.amazon.com/DotPen-Android-Smartphones-Machined-Aluminum/dp/B00MGU8LIK/
Identical pens sell under different names.

Here's the DIY for the glove:

 

[digitalcuriosity]

When Apple lost Steve Jobs his vision of what the iPad needed to be, has just been lost with Tim Cook now guiding how and what Apple products are to be.

And his vision is just about how much money can be made, so by adding the gee whiz items the new iPads it will get everyone running out to get a new iPad.

 

[akash.nu]

When Apple lost Steve Jobs his vision of what the iPad needed to be, has just been lost with Tim Cook now guiding how and what Apple products are to be.

And his vision is just about how much money can be made, so by adding the gee whiz items the new iPads it will get everyone running out to get a new iPad.

Making money is the ultimate goal of any business. If the investors ain’t happy, you won’t have an Apple to complain about.

 

[bjet767]

When Apple lost Steve Jobs his vision of what the iPad needed to be, has just been lost with Tim Cook now guiding how and what Apple products are to be.

Thinking Jobs had all the correct answers is a bit tiresome. The reality is Jobs made a bunch of mistakes in his tenure and the market eventually determined which products and features sold.

Examples:

Lisa, so expensive it didn’t sell, but the GUI became the Mac.
Mac Air was small, but had all the power of the envelope it was displayed in. The market liked the size but demanded more power.
Original iPhone/iOS was supposed to be a closed system only allowing internet apps.
And let’s not forget how well the Next computer sold. But of course the technology and Objective C came to Apple when they brought back Jobs.
He was famous for working his staff to the edges of sanity (and exhaustion).

The man had a flare, great marketing hype, knew how to differentiate his products from the rest, loved the stage, but he wanted to make a living at the same time. He died too young to really see how his legacy would span itself out.

Of course I have a MacBook, iPhone, iPad and watch and I guess that makes me an Apple Fan. But seriously there isn’t any other manufacturer who can put that whole package together as seamlessly and without some sort of hack to make it work.

The king is dead, long live the king.

Sorry this thread was about returning an iPad.

Keep Calm
Read On

 

[dmillar74]

Thinking Jobs had all the correct answers is a bit tiresome. The reality is Jobs made a bunch of mistakes in his tenure and the market eventually determined which products and features sold.

Examples:

Lisa, so expensive it didn’t sell, but the GUI became the Mac.
Mac Air was small, but had all the power of the envelope it was displayed in. The market liked the size but demanded more power.
Original iPhone/iOS was supposed to be a closed system only allowing internet apps.
And let’s not forget how well the Next computer sold. But of course the technology and Objective C came to Apple when they brought back Jobs.
He was famous for working his staff to the edges of sanity (and exhaustion).

The man had a flare, great marketing hype, knew how to differentiate his products from the rest, loved the stage, but he wanted to make a living at the same time. He died too young to really see how his legacy would span itself out.

Of course I have a MacBook, iPhone, iPad and watch and I guess that makes me an Apple Fan. But seriously there isn’t any other manufacturer who can put that whole package together as seamlessly and without some sort of hack to make it work.

The king is dead, long live the king.

Sorry this thread was about returning an iPad.

Keep Calm
Read On

Big fan of Steve Jobs myself, but I often wonder how long the the 5” iPhone would’ve been our biggest phones. Does anyone know if the bigger 6 and 6 Plus phones were in his plans before he died or was this more of Tim Cooks movement?

 

[ericwn]

Big fan of Steve Jobs myself, but I often wonder how long the the 5” iPhone would’ve been our biggest phones. Does anyone know if the bigger 6 and 6 Plus phones were in his plans before he died or was this more of Tim Cooks movement?

I don‘t doubt for a moment that Apple with Steve would have released very similar iPhones. Steve was famous for not just having the vision, but also for seeing when it was time to change his mind. He was able to adopt to change in a short amount of time.

 

[digitalcuriosity]

I feel he would have passed on the plastic phones.

 

[oldhifi]

I really like my IPad Pro, great size for me watching football

 

[maflynn]

The iPad is the iPad. Why make pro and not pro? And I'm also pissed they didn't allow for Apple Pencil on the basic iPad

Becaue people wouldn't buy the iPad Pro which is more $$. I don't mind the product line up and it is fairly simple as it stands.

 

[Richard8655]

I wish they went back to simplifying their line up. The iPad is the iPad. Why make pro and not pro?

I’m somewhat in agreement with this. The low vs high end model strategy is definitely designed to generate higher profits. I think Apple could have included most of the Pro features in a less expensive single product line. But what they’re doing is quintessential marketing and manipulation, especially appealing to a large consumer segment that always equates expensive with must be “better” and worth it.

 

[aneftp]

While plenty of deals are available for wifi models particularly at lower capacities, unfortunately, there may not be an option if one wants a specific configuration (e.g. 512GB LTE). I've yet to see the LTE models go on sale without some catch.

Yeah. No great carrier LTE models sales. Att and Verizon off the equivalent of $200-250 off on their lte model but only for the A9 Budget March 2017 release iPad for $99 with att lte 32gb. And even that is the Sneaky monthly credit applied over 24 months so essentially locks u into a contract with them to realize the full savings

They wouldn’t give me the equivalent of $230 off iPad Pro Lte model cause I wasn’t interested in the A9 iPad.