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Seeing as the A7 devices seem to lag/stutter as much as my iphone 5 on ios7, I'll assume it's just ios7 and NOT deliberate NOP instructions.
 
Seeing as the A7 devices seem to lag/stutter as much as my iphone 5 on ios7, I'll assume it's just ios7 and NOT deliberate NOP instructions.

1. The A7's iOS7 64-bit implementation, at least as of 7.0.x, seems to be very buggy. That is, its working even worse than on the 32-bit iPhone 5 doesn't really prove anything.

2. the iPhone 5 is still a one year old model; Apple is supposed to artificially slow down models after 2-3 years and major OS upgrades.
 
Although you may think that there is a conspiracy by Apple regarding iOS upgrades for the iDevice how would that explain those who claimed/reported that Mavericks have speed up older Macs and longer battery life...a little off tangent to the subject but related to the OS upgrade!

You can't really compare the two. Sales of MBPs / MBAs have considerably declined lately (see https://www.macrumors.com/2013/12/2...pad-in-2013-as-chromebooks-overtake-macbooks/ : the decline is from 2.6% to 1.8%) and they certainly aren't low-priced, meaning people could rarely afford to upgrade every year. (For example, I'm typing this on a maxxed-out 2010 17" in a rural spa village on my 2-week-Christmas-holiday and am unlikely to purchase any new model, unless the 17" line, with 4K screens and double-spin drives, is reintroduced. I need the 17"'s screen estate (I can't really use external monitors at least 6 weeks a year in my no-electricity summer cottage and don't want to carry around an external monitor for my Christmas-time spa village holidays) so not even the 15" rMBP's are acceptable for me.)

The case of the low(er)-priced and, at least tablet-wise, market-leading iDevices is diametrically opposed to this:

1. Apple feel they don't really need to innovate (in the same way as they do with OS X) - after all, they're still market leaders, unlike with OS X.

2. people aren't that much upset with upgrading to new iDevices every year because of the supposed slowdowns and/or unimplemented new features. Now, think of out $2000+ MBP's getting practically useless after, say, 3+ years - that would really chase away a lot of us. Fortunately, the latter isn't the case - as I've pointed out again, I'm perfectly happy with my 3.5-year-old 17" MBP and don't want to upgrade soon.
 
Whose fault is it that you're using a 4 year old device with outdated hardware? Not Apple's.
 
Whose fault is it that you're using a 4 year old device with outdated hardware? Not Apple's.

1. You may have missed the entire point of this thread. If Apple do slow down their old models artificially to force older models' owners to upgrade, then, it's absolutely hideous. Actually, they (then) do the same as Microsoft-teamed-up-with-HW-manufacturers were accused of 10-15 years ago (see my "NOP in loops" reference, which repeated the same explanation of MS' alleged slowdowns, as was back then rumored in the press too.)

Again, I have no proof of this, other than my subjective experience with iPhone 3G's running 4.x and the like. I, however, do have proof of something similar: removing previously-existing functionality from old devices to boost the sales of the new ones capable of the same functionality; for example:

- 60p recording in the iPhone 4S
- antialiasing in the 2x iPhone emulation mode on the iPad 1/2

BTW, it was regarding the latter that Apple have lied personally to me, stating the latter was a "bug".

2. Tell the same to, say, an African, Chinese, Indian, Vietnamese etc. - that is, people that earn orders of magnitude less money for the same work as you. Not everybody can afford the latest-and-greatest. In some countries, people are happy if they can afford a 4-year-old Apple model.
 
60p recording in the iPhone 4S

I've seen this brought up a lot lately and I didn't even know the function existed on the 4S. Is this a feature that Apple actually advertised, or a just function that someone found? If I recall correctly, something similar happened with the iPhone 3G and video recording.
 
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There is always whited00r that have introduced the iOS7 touches for the earlier devices like the iPhone 2 / iPhone 3G etc....interesting although I have yet to blow the dust off the old faithful 3G and try it out!

http://www.whited00r.com/features?lang=en

Sadly this doesn't answer the question for the iPhone 4 and the like...!!
 
Most of you say Apple slows down old idevices to make you buy a new one, why there is no tweak in cydia to remove these limitations or to make the OS better? Because if I recall, there was a serious lag on ios 4.3.3 and a way to remove that lag was to delete some files with the ifile tool.

Launch Daemon/Language Pack removal is one way to gain performance on older phones. Please be very careful as recent versions of iOS seem very sensitive to Daemon removal.
 
Exactly.
If there was any code that makes it slower on purpose some jb hacker would come across it. They go through everything looking for exploits and holes.
It would be a nightmare for Apple to deal with and would have irreversible effects.

Your old quote is quite funny given current revelations.
 
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It’s all about intent. They didn’t introduce processor throttling to intentionally deceive customers. They did it to maintain some level of reliability. This sort of thing (processor cycling) has been happening on laptops and tablets from all manufacturers for a long time.

Apple wasn’t transparent about it though, which is why this has blown up in their face.
 
It’s all about intent. They didn’t introduce processor throttling to intentionally deceive customers. They did it to maintain some level of reliability. This sort of thing (processor cycling) has been happening on laptops and tablets from all manufacturers for a long time.

Apple wasn’t transparent about it though, which is why this has blown up in their face.

Yeah ok.
They didn't intent to line up their pockets with this. That's why they were hiding it since forever.
Tell us another one.
 
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So you're saying, they intentionally made their products worse, in some sort of nefarious scheme to get customers to buy more of their products? Uh huh. Makes a whole lot of sense.
 
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Power management is usually at the firmware level that's inaccessible to the OS. Makes sense now why Apple wants to drop their Dialog Semiconductor supplier and roll their own power management chip to completely hide what they're up to.
 
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Yeah, because then only every single customer with Geekbench installed would be able to see exactly what's going on. This may be the dumbest "conspiracy theory" ever.
 
I'm saying I don't think Apple did it intentionally with some nefarious scheme in mind that it would trick dumb customers into buying new Apple devices. /smh
 
Apple only just started doing this with iOS 11. Everything in this thread has nothing to do with what just happened. Additionally Apple only added this because phones were randomly shutting off due to their batteries being incapable of powering the phone. If apple had not added the throttling people's devices just wouldn't be working instead. If your battery has been worn faster than normal Apple will replace it. Otherwise it's just normal wear.
 
Apple only just started doing this with iOS 11.

Incorrect, it began with iOS 10.2.1. Check the release notes. Here's what it says in the iOS 10.2.1 section.

iOS 10.2.1 includes bug fixes and improves the security of your iPhone or iPad.

It also improves power management during peak workloads to avoid unexpected shutdowns on iPhone.

For information on the security content of Apple software updates, please visit this website: https://support.apple.com/HT201222

I read elsewhere that iOS 11 is when it came to the iPhone 7, though.
 
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They underclock the CPU if battery wear level is over a set limit.
Simple as that. A tweak would need to add a no operation after this check instead of a jump.
 
So you're saying, they intentionally made their products worse, in some sort of nefarious scheme to get customers to buy more of their products? Uh huh. Makes a whole lot of sense.

Duh.
And you find that hard to believe?
It's a technique that made them billions and they would have continued if it wasn't exposed.
Wake up and smell the coffee.
 
Duh.
And you find that hard to believe?
It's a technique that made them billions and they would have continued if it wasn't exposed.
Wake up and smell the coffee.

Meh. I don’t buy into dumb conspiracy theories that would have been easily provable years ago.
 
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