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mac jones

macrumors 68040
Apr 6, 2006
3,257
2
Toys

Personally, besides the cost (an obvious incentive) I don't see why people are buying these netbooks.

I've looked at several and they were all junk (reflecting their price) . I'm also at a loss at an intended use for them.
If there was a function that they could perform as a cheap secondary device then they prehaps would be useful. But it's a mistake to 'invent' a use for them just because they are so cheap.

they certainly are not a viable everyday (or everyhour :D ) machine .

And those trackpads! :D
 

Tosser

macrumors 68030
Jan 15, 2008
2,677
1
Are you an MBA owner?

You might as well go "Unless you own a two seater car, you don't know if it's a lorry". In other words, it doesn't matter if that two-seater is nice (well, some people think so), it's still not a lorry, a van, a station wagon or a four seater. It's still not a "family car" no matter if you personally can make do with two seats.
 

aviationalyours

macrumors member
Apr 26, 2008
52
0
Doha, Qatar
Imposible

Apple spends say (for example, don't chew my head(s) of) 500$ for a MBP and sell it to ya for $1400. their profit is $200. They spend the rest on paying attention to details and making it perfect. If it isn't perfect it aint made by the devil his steveness steve jobs nor would it be made by :apple:. You can't spend 400 bucks on a netbook just to get the details right. And the display has to be "gorgeous" with a "full sized keyboard". That's why I love Apple.

Did that make sense?
 

iMacmatician

macrumors 601
Jul 20, 2008
4,249
55
This is what I want:

MacTablet

13.3" multitouch screen
MacBook Air internals
No ODD
slab format (none of this rotating screen crap)
MagSafe, 2 USB, Audio in/out

$1,999

And there is no possible way that Apple will release anything that even remotely looks like a MacTablet at MacWorld.
This is what I want:

"iWrite"
  • 6" multi-touch display
  • Better hardware than iPod touch
  • USB, micro-DVI, headphone, speakers, camera
  • iPhone OS Extended (not Mac OS X) with some sort of multi-tasking
  • iLife mobile, iWork mobile, Preview mobile, more editing features in existing apps
  • $499~$699
And the rumors don't mention any specific dates, and the lack of recent rumors (besides the questionable "iPod stick") means there most likely won't be such a device at MWSF.
 

McGilli

macrumors 6502
Original poster
Nov 11, 2008
380
0
MY reason for posting this thread is that last night -for the first time in about a year - I laid eyes on my Fujitsu P7010 XP laptop -which for a couple of years was my baby. It's a 10" notebook, and when I put it beside the MBA I realized how big the MBA is. Sure the Fuji is a lot thicker - but just as easy to pack in a backpack.

and honestly - I wished I could have a MBA with at the most - a 10" screen. That is all I really want. If they made an Air with the 10" screen - I would buy it asap.
 

ibosie

macrumors 6502
Jul 12, 2008
281
24
London
Ok MBA owners....

If Apple releases a 'net-book' - which is basically a miniature version of a MBA at Macworld in January - who will buy one? And what would it need to have, and at what price to make you consider you buying it (since we paid mucho $ for our MBA'a)

Nope. The Air is perfect for my needs. I want it to get less heavy but not less featured.
 

shokunin

macrumors regular
Jun 7, 2005
218
48
Rev A Netbook, heck no, it'll have:

Gray lines across the screen
Flickering screen
overheating processor
faulty nVidia graphics chip
exploding battery

Rev B Netbook could possibly fix two of the above but add 2 more unforeseen problems.

Sorry I'm snarky, due to getting a headache looking at the lines and flickering on Rev B MBA.
 

Vanilla

macrumors 6502a
Mar 19, 2002
589
0
Atlanta, GA
Toys

Personally, besides the cost (an obvious incentive) I don't see why people are buying these netbooks.

I've looked at several and they were all junk (reflecting their price) . I'm also at a loss at an intended use for them.
If there was a function that they could perform as a cheap secondary device then they prehaps would be useful. But it's a mistake to 'invent' a use for them just because they are so cheap.

they certainly are not a viable everyday (or everyhour :D ) machine .

And those trackpads! :D

I bought a PC World advent 4213 for my 7-year old daughter who loves it to bits. She largely uses it for surfing the web and a bit of light WP. It was cheap to purchase, it's very light & compact and reasonably well-built. My wife also tends to grab the Advent now rather than the MacBook we also have. One further point - my wife also has an iPhone and says she prefers surfing on the advent as the screen size of the iPhone doesnt work for her when surfing.

Personally, I stick happily with the MacBook but if Apple could come out with a Mac NetBook/tablet that was reasonably priced I'd pounce on it in a heartbeat to keep my house microsoft free. For now though, the only option for a cheap, compact, light web-surfing unit that has a screen real-estate between an iPhone and a 'normal' laptop is either a linux or windows-based OS.
 

Willis

macrumors 68020
Apr 23, 2006
2,293
54
Beds, UK
You should have done a poll for this.

I wouldn't buy one simply because I'm not it's target audience.

Not to mention, it would eat into the sales of MB and MBA. It wouldn't be in Apple's interest to do so
 

Tosser

macrumors 68030
Jan 15, 2008
2,677
1
The Air is my only Mac, I had a MBP and a new Alum MB, this is full featured, I have no problems using it as such.

You're right.

By the same token, a motorcycle is a family car. I mean, I don't have any use for anything else to do my shopping or drive my small family around.

Or put another way: A pda is a "fully featured" computer, the iPhone is a "fully featured" smartphone and a dorm room is a home fit for an entire family.
 

Foxglove9

macrumors 68000
Jan 14, 2006
1,650
274
New York City
Since selling my EEE PC recently I've been waiting to see if Apple releases its own Netbook. I'll probably hold out till the summer. If they don't release something equivalent to the MSI Wind and around the same price then I'm going with a Wind and hacking it like I did with my EEE PC.

Or maybe they'll have some other cool gadget.
 

Clix Pix

macrumors Core
The primary reason I would consider a Netbook if Apple produces one is to use it for importing digital images from my memory cards while out in the field. I've looked at the current generation of Netbooks and am not too impressed -- aside from that I don't want to use a Windows machine again. I've considered buying an Asus with Linux, which would take care of the Windows issue, but I am really not all that familiar with Linux. I have a first-gen MacBook Air, which I love and would continue to use that for everything else (email, web-surfing, etc., on a trip or at home. The Netbook would ONLY be for handling digital images on the road.
 

sanPietro98

macrumors 6502a
May 30, 2008
642
1
28.416834,-81.581214
If Apple releases a 'net-book' - which is basically a miniature version of a MBA

Why don't people get it? A MBA is not an oversized net-book. It has all the "features" of a macbook. It is just has lower performance specs. There is a difference.

But no. I will not buy a net-book. If you want a low-profile computer, the MBA is perfect. If you want a small device for the 'net, then get a iPhone or iPod Touch.
 

bobbleheadbob

macrumors 6502a
Feb 6, 2007
653
0
Massachusetts
Ok MBA owners....

If Apple releases a 'net-book' - which is basically a miniature version of a MBA at Macworld in January - who will buy one? And what would it need to have, and at what price to make you consider you buying it (since we paid mucho $ for our MBA'a)

I just bought an Air, so my answer would be "no".

I'm hoping they do release something new that ships that week. Maybe even a software release.
 

iBookG4user

macrumors 604
Jun 27, 2006
6,595
2
Seattle, WA
As a MacBook Air owner, no I would not buy one. Honestly, the MacBook Air is portable enough for my purposes and the only thing that they could improve on it would be a matte display. Unfortunately I don't see that happening in either the Netbook or the MacBook Air.
 

NoSmokingBandit

macrumors 68000
Apr 13, 2008
1,579
3
Why don't people get it? A MBA is not an oversized net-book. It has all the "features" of a macbook. It is just has lower performance specs. There is a difference.

Lol. No, the MBA does not have all the features of the macbook. It has one usb, no line-in, no ethernet plug, no cd drive...
The MBA is a mix between a netbook and an actual notebook. Why some continue to call the Air a substitute for an actual netbook is beyond me. Netbooks are designed to be tiny and low-powered, built only for the purpose of going online. The Air is not this. The air's body size is actually bigger than the macbook when talking about width x depth. You can trow an EeePc in a purse or handbag, you cant do that with the Air.

Summary:
THE AIR IS NOT A NETBOOK. IT IS NOT A SUBSTITUTE FOR A NETBOOK.
 

NT1440

macrumors Pentium
May 18, 2008
15,089
22,155
Tosser, what is your definition of fully featured?

what is the industry definition?
 

Tosser

macrumors 68030
Jan 15, 2008
2,677
1
Tosser, what is your definition of fully featured?

what is the industry definition?

It's not a static definition in my book, nor in the industry. It depends on what else is out there. Sort of an "average" thing. Apple used to call "fully featured" laptops "full fledged" – that was around when Apple laptops had two USBs (close to the ones that had three) had an optical drive, firewire, modem, ethernet dvi-port (today that could be hdmi et al), and so on.

If you remove most of what is standard on basically any other offerings out there, if you remove so much that there aren't even as much in it as the cheaper slimmed downed step-down ("netbooks" as of present) one cannot claim them to be "fully featured" even if they o have a little more power and a slightly bigger keyboard than the step-down. It's like calling the 13" glassbook the "epitome of audio workstations".

In essense, people who call the MBA "fully featured" focus on two or three things: 1) It has a full size keyboard, not a 95 percent-one. It has a 13" inch screen (as if that mattered in this context), and 3) it has more power than a netbook (which, for all intents and purposes) is a negative comparison – one which shouldn't even come into play when we talk "fully featured").
The reality is, that "fully featured" is an organic "size". Today, one could even argue that it's not "fully featured" unless it also have an inbuilt card reader, and - sigh - blueray.

Full Size ≠ Fully Featured.
 

Maven1975

macrumors 65816
Aug 24, 2008
1,013
275
I would rather have Apple spend R&D dollars on the iPhone. It makes much more sense than delivering half baked machines (Like MBA Rev. A). SSD will continue to decline in price making the Air one hell of a machine for the money.

I consider the Rev.B Air full featured for my computing needs. I cant tell you the last time I have actually used a ..

Firewire Port, Slow CD/DVD Drive, and Ethernet Port.

I guess if I were in the Audio/Video business, the Pro would be the next stop for me. However, with a Mac Pro at home with wireless N, I am more than satisfied.
 

Tosser

macrumors 68030
Jan 15, 2008
2,677
1
I would rather have Apple spend R&D dollars on the iPhone. It makes much more sense than delivering half baked machines (Like MBA Rev. A). SSD will continue to decline in price making the Air one hell of a machine for the money.

I consider the Rev.B Air full featured for my computing needs. I cant tell you the last time I have actually used a ..
That's the problem. If it were about your (or my, for that matter) individual computer needs, the words make no sense any more. Some people could make do with an iPhone or a Palm Pilot, but it wouldn't make either a "fully featured laptop".

Firewire Port, Slow CD/DVD Drive, and Ethernet Port.
Again, it doesn't matter if you personally have no use for it. "Fully featured" laptops have "all" the features so people can pick and choose which to use without having to workaround the things not available on the damn thing, hence FULLY featured.


I guess if I were in the Audio/Video business, the Pro would be the next stop for me. However, with a Mac Pro at home with wireless N, I am more than satisfied.

You should be. However, the MB "pro" is rather useless in the video and audio business, what with the Agere chipset and the lack of support of firewire in the expresscard slot, and since very few of us make enough money to hire people to carry around a macpro, a screen, and huge battery banks, the Mac Pro isn't really made to be used in the field.
 
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