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how would they compensate the outrage the earlier adopters (including myself) will inevitably bring?

Lowering the price of the first iPhone was an interesting move for them, especially as a 'newcomer' to the smartphone industry (which the iPhone eventually reinvented).

There are numerous reports of low sales for iPhone X and it being attributed to a number of things, including price. And demand is low -- you can easily pick up the X at any carrier/Apple store same day.

Do you think there is any truth to these rumors? Would they lower the price of the X now or lower the entry point for the next iteration? or perhaps offer more carrier deals (a few of them are offering iPhone 8's as a BOGO)?
 
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Well if they threw their marketing budget at a lower price, resulting in fewer lame, yet annoying commercials, I would be ok with that. We get it, animoji’s were fun for 5 minutes, and your ugly ass unibrow phone does every color but white. Only the t mobile/Netflix, and State Farm commercials are more annoying.
 
Apple themselves is not lowering the price with iPhone X. Their Typical tradition is when the new iPhones are announced, that's when the discounts will follow. Carriers might have their own trade-ins or incentives, just because the iPhone X is widely available doesn't mean Apple should have to lower the price because "We" think they should.

The iPhone X is not likely suited for everybody's Preferences, which is why Apple has variable price points throughout their iPhone line up and other models.
 
how would they compensate the outrage the earlier adopters (including myself) will inevitably bring?

Lowering the price of the first iPhone was an interesting move for them, especially as a 'newcomer' to the smartphone industry (which the iPhone eventually reinvented).

There are numerous reports of low sales for iPhone X and it being attributed to a number of things, including price. And demand is low -- you can easily pick up the X at any carrier/Apple store same day.

Do you think there is any truth to these rumors? Would they lower the price of the X now or lower the entry point for the next iteration? or perhaps offer more carrier deals (a few of them are offering iPhone 8's as a BOGO)?

https://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2007/09/07/refunds-and-credits-for-iphone-owners/
 
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they won't as they don't need it to sell all that well (unlike the original iPhone) as they have other offerings to pick up those put off by the price. If it were to disappoint to the extent it needed a price adjustment, they'd do it upon the introduction of gen 2 most likely and that wouldn't be seen to be out of the ordinary.
 
Apple will not lower it’s price... and it’s not worth a grand either. The Plus model I bet will start from 1150 or 1200, and they won’t reduce it.

When they ditch the iPhone 6 design and move permanently to the silly money bigger iPhones, you watch the SE 2 or 3 fly off the shelves!
 
Its price will be reduced during the keynote when its successor is launched, and not a day before.
 
Low demand rumor? Probably true. We're seeing multiple sources claim low demand dragging Hon Hai shares down. In high potential countries like China, we don't see the megacycle some predicted.

Price drop? Probably not until Q3'18. The rumor about the 6.1" model is strong indication Apple is pursing a more aggressive pricing strategy.

Traditionally, Apple releases a new color in Q1 to prop up slow iPhone sales. In the summer, Apple may work with carriers on back end discounts to encourage sales.
 
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You may get a reduction from Best Buy over the summer to reduce extra inventory but that's the extent that you'll find.
 
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It's a much different situation now in 2017/2018 than it was in 2007 when the first iPhone made its debut. The ONLY carrier was AT&T and there were no subsidies, no special plans -- customers paid upfront for the first-generation iPhone. It came with either 4 GB or 8 GB capacity. (Seems ridiculous now, doesn't it?) There was no App Store yet, either; we used the stock Apple-created apps that came on the phone and that was it. Anyway, I think that the reason for reducing the price back then was that Apple wanted to stimulate sales and probably realized that for some people this brand-new concept, brand-new design, the iPhone, was just too costly a gamble. So Apple simply knocked down the price on each capacity and provided current owners with credit at the Apple store.

These days, people have many more choices in smartphones and in carriers, and there are options available now for making the price tags of current models seemingly more palatable. This is a much different scenario than what we experienced ten years ago......
 
Low demand rumor? Probably true. We're seeing multiple sources claim low demand dragging Hon Hai shares down. In high potential countries like China, we don't see the megacycle some predicted.

If analysts estimates are correct and Apple only sells 36 MILLION iPhone X’s in its first quarter that’s $43 BILLION in revenue. iPhone X, on its own, would be bigger than Coca-Cola or Volvo.

Falling, the sky is not.
 
If analysts estimates are correct and Apple only sells 36 MILLION iPhone X’s in its first quarter that’s $43 BILLION in revenue. iPhone X, on its own, would be bigger than Coca-Cola or Volvo.

Falling, the sky is not.

There's no doubt it will be a decent quarter for Apple. No analyst is comparing Apple to oranges or to Coca-Cola.

What's important for analysts is how Apple compares to itself. Right now, there's indication Apple is reaching a YoY inflection point based on units sold.
 
There's no doubt it will be a decent quarter for Apple. No analyst is comparing Apple to oranges or to Coca-Cola.

What's important for analysts is how Apple compares to itself. Right now, there's indication Apple is reaching a YoY inflection point based on units sold.

....and that’s the metric that doesn’t matter. It’s not about units. It’s about revenue.

A $1,250 iPhone vs. a $549 iPhone the prior year would never be expected to anniversary units, no analyst in his right mind would think that. Unit sales might be down 40%. Doesn’t matter. It’s all about revenue and profit margins and the X is win-win.
 
There are some real pieces of work that post on here. Smh

Seriously! I mean, how many threads can we have about showing your iPhone wallpaper or asking what chargers people use to power their phones... :rolleyes::rolleyes:
 
....and that’s the metric that doesn’t matter. It’s not about units. It’s about revenue.

A $1,250 iPhone vs. a $549 iPhone the prior year would never be expected to anniversary units, no analyst in his right mind would think that. Unit sales might be down 40%. Doesn’t matter. It’s all about revenue and profit margins and the X is win-win.

That's a pretty myopic view of Apple's business, especially iPhone revenue growth has decelerated.

Apple Services is the fastest growing business segment for the company. Tim Cook announced he wanted to double services revenue by 2020 to $50 billion.

Without the units in the hands of consumers, how exactly is Apple supposed to sell the services? Hardware is catching up faster than software is being developed. At some point, hardware will plateau and rely on software to do the heavy lifting for Apple's revenue.
 
Seriously! I mean, how many threads can we have about showing your iPhone wallpaper or asking what chargers people use to power their phones... :rolleyes::rolleyes:

You asked a hypothetical question based on an unsubstantiated claim for which there is no real answer... Multiple reports? no there was one (Digitimes I believe?) report from a single source that everyone copied. All we can do is look at Apple's history. A $100 - 200 refund for early adopters for the g1 iPhone. What will apple do today? Even if there was any truth to these claims Apple would likely do nothing. Did Apple reduce the price of the gold apple watch? No. They introduced a new material at a price point more people will pop for.
 
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You asked a hypothetical question based on an unsubstantiated claim for which there is no real answer... Multiple reports? no there was one (Digitimes I believe?) report from a single source that everyone copied. All we can do is look at Apple's history. A $100 - 200 refund for early adopters for the g1 iPhone. What will apple do today? Even if there was any truth to these claims Apple would likely do nothing. Did Apple reduce the price of the gold apple watch? No. They introduced a new material at a price point more people will pop for.

This site is literally called MacRumors... a place to discuss rumors.
 
Although there is a precedent for Apple lowering the price on the iPhone (thing the first iPhone) I think it's unlikely that Apple will lower the price--on the website or at Apple Stores.

What may happen is eventually you'll see carrier deals, BOGO or package deals.
 
You assume Apple created the iPhone X for the masses. The purpose of the iPhone X is to create a higher price point and to separate the rich and poor customers.
An interesting assumption.
 
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