iPhone X *If* Apple were to reduce the price of the iPhone X...

[deferredAnon]

Ok poor wording on my part. Let me rephrase.

The purpose of the iphone x is to create a higher price point so that Apple can seperate the people who don't care about spending over $1000 and those that do care.

The purpose of iPhone X is for Apple to garner more money from those who are willing to pay more for whatever reason. You will see that there are iPhones for a big price range now. And when they introduce iPhone X Plus this year at probably $1,299, there is another price range to add to the mix.

 

[Falhófnir]

The purpose of iPhone X is for Apple to garner more money from those who are willing to pay more for whatever reason. You will see that there is an iPhone for a big price range now. And when they introduce iPhone X Plus this year at probably $1,300, there is another price range to add to the mix.

I agree re: the price range (and I think it’s good there’s a choice of what are all really great phones at multiple price points) but as regards the X plus, I think that’s still up in the air - if there is any truth in the low-sales rumours I think the new plus model taking on the 999/1149 pricing and the newer small model coming down by a bit might be more likely. Will be interesting to see...

 

[iphonehype]

It is not about rich or poor. it is not about the have or have nots.. I agree, luxury goods are typically more costly and are often bought by individuals that have a higher disposable income or greater accumulated wealth than the average. but I refer to the following definition...

"a : something adding to pleasure or comfort but not absolutely necessary • one of life's luxuries"

To explain further... Products which are not necessary but which tend to make life more pleasant for the consumer. An item that is not necessary for living, but is deemed as highly-desired within a culture or society. Other examples of luxury goods are diamonds or nice vacations. They are things that are desirable but not necessary in a shortage of money.

My argument is that the iPhone 8 provides the same basic functionality as the X without the added cost. One could argue any mobile phone is a luxury good, but these days conducting business without a smart phone is practically an impossibility for many. True one could use an iPhone 6s or 7 as an 8 is not a necessity. I wanted to place emphasis on the fact that the 8 and X share the same CPU and general specifications (with the exception of ram.) however the X is nearly 1/4 more costly and runs the same applications. In fact the majority of applications are still not optimized for the X leaving it an inferior experience but at greater cost.

As Luxury items are also known as "positional goods" because they signal that the owner has achieved a certain position or status within society to be able to afford them. My argument s that many who buy an X are doing so to demonstrate perceived status (regardless of actual wealth.)
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Agreed on the businessman who expenses this. I generally dont like the mindset of, it didn't cost because he expensed it. I expensed my iPhone X costing me £1150 but as a company director I chose to purchase this, instead of paying tax or an iPhone X I could have booked a "business trip" it still comes out of ones pocket.
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Ok poor wording on my part. Let me rephrase.

The purpose of the iphone x is to create a higher price point so that Apple can seperate the people who don't care about spending over $1000 and those that do care.

I personally believe Apple released the iPhone X because of its something new, like Face ID. The cost margin they make on this phone is set and is inline with the price hike on iPhones released + inline or price trend I should use with the macbook pro with touch bar.

They couldn't charge 999 for the 8, could they? But they can because the X has a better screen & Face ID....can they not? Camera etc?

It makes silly to price 800 for the 8 plus 64gb? but 900 for the X I dont believe the gab is big enough tbh. They know the X will sell at 999 and I honestly belive its selling in record numbers...

 

[JediZenMaster]

how would they compensate the outrage the earlier adopters (including myself) will inevitably bring?

Lowering the price of the first iPhone was an interesting move for them, especially as a 'newcomer' to the smartphone industry (which the iPhone eventually reinvented).

There are numerous reports of low sales for iPhone X and it being attributed to a number of things, including price. And demand is low -- you can easily pick up the X at any carrier/Apple store same day.

Do you think there is any truth to these rumors? Would they lower the price of the X now or lower the entry point for the next iteration? or perhaps offer more carrier deals (a few of them are offering iPhone 8's as a BOGO)?

Nope and if prices are lowered it will be thru your carrier and not Apple directly.

Even if Apple lowered the price I don’t think they should do anything to compensate for this.

They did it once but they were the new kid on the block. This constant cycle of entitlement has got to end.

When you buy a car and the price is lowered do you get a refund if the price is lowered after the fact?

 

[iphonehype]

Nope and if prices are lowered it will be thru your carrier and not Apple directly.

Even if Apple lowered the price I don’t think they should do anything to compensate for this.

They did it once but they were the new kid on the block. This constant cycle of entitlement has got to end.

When you buy a car and the price is lowered do you get a refund if the price is lowered after the fact?

With EU Law not sure about rest of the world, if you wanted a refund you'd go back to the retailer. So if the retailer is Apple you'd go to Apple. If you bought it from the network provider e.g. EE/O2 you'd back to the retailer.

 

[JediZenMaster]

With EU Law not sure about rest of the world, if you wanted a refund you'd go back to the retailer. So if the retailer is Apple you'd go to Apple. If you bought it from the network provider e.g. EE/O2 you'd back to the retailer.

I know EU has very strong consumer laws. Here if you wanted a refund and you got it from Apple it would go back to Apple or the carrier if you got it from them.

Most carriers here have a 14 day return period except in California where it’s 30 days I think?

The carriers though don’t really do price matching for price drops and Apple for sure doesn’t.

Price matching is more of a big box retailer thing. Most credit cards will do price protection here where if a price drops they refund the difference but that’s a lot of paperwork.

 

[44267547]

I agree re: the price range (and I think it’s good there’s a choice of what are all really great phones at multiple price points) but as regards the X plus, I think that’s still up in the air ..

There isn't "anything up in the air" about the new rumored iPhone 6.5 X Plus, as that is almost a guarantee to happen to offer a secondary model predicted Ming Kuo. The only thing Apple do with the current 5.8 iPhone X is lower the price on that, and then offer the 2018 5.8 iPhone X likely at the same starting price point and then the iPhone X 6.5 starting at around $1200.

 

[Falhófnir]

There isn't "anything up in the air" about the new rumored iPhone 6.5 X Plus, as that is almost a guarantee to happen to offer a secondary model predicted Ming Kuo. The only thing Apple do with the current 5.8 iPhone X is lower the price on that, and then offer the 2018 5.8 iPhone X likely at the same starting price point and then the iPhone X 6.5 starting at around $1200.

Why truncate my post to create a straw man argument you can disagree with? I didn’t say the larger 2018 oled phone was up in the air, I said the pricing of it could be - big difference.

 

[44267547]

Why truncate my post to create a straw man argument you can disagree with?

As if I'm obligated to agree with what you wrote previously either way for the sake of discussion or debate semantics?

Furthermore:

but as regards the X plus, I think that’s still up in the air -

And:

I said the pricing of it could be - big difference.

I understand the pricing relation, hence I addressed/reiterated that already, again listed below: Even so, There is "Nothing up in the Air". The 6.5 will easily start at $1200.00 given the current price stage of the 5.8 iPhone X. There is nothing speculated about the price point, which the 5.8 OLED model already created an origin for a base price.

Again, reference:

The only thing Apple do with the current 5.8 iPhone X is lower the price on that, and then offer the 2018 5.8 iPhone X likely at the same starting price point and then the iPhone X 6.5 starting at around $1200.

 

[bniu]

I can easily afford an iPhone X, but choose not to because I like Touch ID too much to change.

I could also buy an 8 Plus if I want, but I’m holding out until I can get a phone with 512GB of storage.

 

[JediZenMaster]

There isn't "anything up in the air" about the new rumored iPhone 6.5 X Plus, as that is almost a guarantee to happen to offer a secondary model predicted Ming Kuo. The only thing Apple do with the current 5.8 iPhone X is lower the price on that, and then offer the 2018 5.8 iPhone X likely at the same starting price point and then the iPhone X 6.5 starting at around $1200.

I wonder how much they would lower the price on the current 5.8 when the new one is released. I can’t see them going south of 799

 

[Vermifuge]

I could also buy an 8 Plus if I want, but I’m holding out until I can get a phone with 512GB of storage.

What are you doing man!?

 

[kmichalec]

Apple likely won't lower the price. But carrier discounts are starting. iPhone X included on TMobile's BOGO free when you activate a new line and trade in a device.

https://support.t-mobile.com/docs/DOC-36142

 

[Deeds500]

Apple never lowers the price of its latest iphone. Once the latest iphone becomes the former latest iphone, then its price is reduced, and announced at the keynote of the new latest iphone. To do otherwise would give the appearance of a bargain basement sale, something Apple does not want to be stereotyped with.

 

[44267547]

Apple never lowers the price of its latest iphone. Once the latest iphone becomes the former latest iphone, then its price is reduced, and announced at the keynote of the new latest iphone. To do otherwise would give the appearance of a bargain basement sale, something Apple does not want to be stereotyped with.

I don't think it has partially to do with being stereotyped as a 'bargain basement sale', as much as it is a tradition of their pricing tiers and how they categorize them with the release of new products. That's primarily how Apple has always been, where other manufactures have their own methods of discounting hardware in various structures.

 

[Black Tiger]

how would they compensate the outrage the earlier adopters (including myself) will inevitably bring?

Lowering the price of the first iPhone was an interesting move for them, especially as a 'newcomer' to the smartphone industry (which the iPhone eventually reinvented).

There are numerous reports of low sales for iPhone X and it being attributed to a number of things, including price. And demand is low -- you can easily pick up the X at any carrier/Apple store same day.

Do you think there is any truth to these rumors? Would they lower the price of the X now or lower the entry point for the next iteration? or perhaps offer more carrier deals (a few of them are offering iPhone 8's as a BOGO)?

No they won’t. They have phones at lower price points so it’s not comparable to the original phone. This is more like an Apple Watch Edition. Deliberately expensive.

 

[Precursor]

You guys in the States should be thankful for the price of X.

Here in my country, the 64Gb X costs $1260.

Therefore, I still keep my 7+.

If the X is available for $999 in my country, I will buy it in a heartbeat.

64 GB X start from $1604 in my country lol
$1814 for the 256 GB version

 

[DNichter]

They aren't lowering the price, Apple is making a ton off the X. If you want a lower cost phone, they have plenty of options. Or wait until next year when they drop it to the 2nd tier.

 

[sintoni]

64 GB X start from $1604 in my country lol
$1814 for the 256 GB version

Where do you live? That is insane!

 

[barkomatic]

You assume Apple created the iPhone X for the masses. The purpose of the iPhone X is to create a higher price point and to separate the rich and poor customers.

I think Apple sets a price point and is happy to take anyone's money regardless of their socio-economic status. I really don't see the point of separating "rich and poor" customers. If that was truly the aim, they'd price the iPhone even higher and not offer payment plans for it.

 

[boltjames]

They aren't lowering the price, Apple is making a ton off the X. If you want a lower cost phone, they have plenty of options. Or wait until next year when they drop it to the 2nd tier.

I could actually see the iPhone X following the 12" MacBook strategy.

The 12" MacBook was released in 2015 and is unchanged physically, just some tweaks under the hood now and then. Seeing how smarphone innovation has slowed to a crawl, perhaps the X will remain their luxury form factor and just get newer processors and sharper cameras and the like as the years go by yet still look outwardly the same while they make the 7/8/9 the stuck in the forehead/chin old-style and tweak the physical appearance of those that group of legacy models.

 

[The-Real-Deal82]

They know the X will sell at 999 and I honestly belive its selling in record numbers...

Record numbers in comparison to what? It’s far from the best selling iPhone or they would already be a popular sight in public. So what records have they broken?

‘The best selling £1k iPhone to date?’

 

[MacDawg]

Being a popular sight in public is a very subjective measurement to say the least
I carry a X but nobody sees it because it is in my pocket most of the time
and when I am using it, most people would have no idea what I am using because I am not flaunting it openly
So there is absolutely no way of knowing how many Xs you are walking by every day in people's pockets or purses

FWIW, there are quite a few Xs where I work
I'm in IT and our group is responsible for the distribution of company phones
We changed contracts requiring new phones for everyone, 8's were offered for free, 8 Plus carried a premium and the X carried more of a premium
Many opted for the X
I don't have a company phone, I carry my own personal X and get a stipend instead

 

[The-Real-Deal82]

Being a popular sight in public is a very subjective measurement to say the least
I carry a X but nobody sees it because it is in my pocket most of the time
and when I am using it, most people would have no idea what I am using because I am not flaunting it openly
So there is absolutely no way of knowing how many Xs you are walking by every day in people's pockets or purses

FWIW, there are quite a few Xs where I work
I'm in IT and our group is responsible for the distribution of company phones
We changed contracts requiring new phones for everyone, 8's were offered for free, 8 Plus carried a premium and the X carried more of a premium
Many opted for the X
I don't have a company phone, I carry my own personal X and get a stipend instead

I haven’t seen an X at all yet and it’s been out two months. I see countless phones daily and they are mostly iPhones. It might be an anecdotal observation but compared to previous years it’s unusual in my part of the world not to have seen at least one of the latest iPhones. I would have expected to see a couple of dozen at least by now.

 

[iphonehype]

Record numbers in comparison to what? It’s far from the best selling iPhone or they would already be a popular sight in public. So what records have they broken?

‘The best selling £1k iPhone to date?’

Its the only £1k phone that has sold in container loads, safe to say the ONLY phone retailed at £1k has sold in MILLIONS!