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If we don't get Final Cut for the M1 iPad Pro at WWDC, I am closing the book on this experiment. I do not need an M1 to read comic books and magazines or run lowend apps that are fine on the iPhone. The $300 iPad will suffice. The iPad "Pro" will have been a failed opportunity with no pro apps. I would never recommend an iPad Pro over the M1 Macbook Air. Apple has even lost Vitticci at this point, which is amazing.
 

cthompson94

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I agree with you OP, with the chips that the iPads are getting and the rise in popularity in videos in social media I think it would be extremely wise to have a version of Final Cut for the iPad. If this were to happen it would most certainly be a reduced capability one, because well we know Apple wants the iPad to pair with the Mac
 

ilikewhey

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But thats why they have the App Store. The ipad has existed for a decade, why have so few truly pro apps come into existence?
i believe you have to look at just how many ppl actually have a m1 ipad, the price for entry is quite high. vs a m1 mac which can do so much more for essentially the same price. developers obviously realized developing professional apps for the ipados is probably just not worth it.
 

nastysailboat

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If we don't get Final Cut for the M1 iPad Pro at WWDC, I am closing the book on this experiment. I do not need an M1 to read comic books and magazines or run lowend apps that are fine on the iPhone. The $300 iPad will suffice. The iPad "Pro" will have been a failed opportunity with no pro apps. I would never recommend an iPad Pro over the M1 Macbook Air. Apple has even lost Vitticci at this point, which is amazing.
Close it now cause it ain’t happening
 

GuruZac

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I think if there aren't major changes to iPadOS or professional apps brought to iPadOS, we will see a steady decrease in iPad Pro sales, especially since the iPad Air is on par performance wise and the M1 is way over powered for the time being. All iPad Pro peripherals also work with the iPad Air now too. This line that Apple wants people to spend $1000-$2400 on a tablet that acts as just a peripheral device is ludicrous. I expect a major loss of iPad Pro sales going forward without major changes to the OS.
 

ilikewhey

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I think if there aren't major changes to iPadOS or professional apps brought to iPadOS, we will see a steady decrease in iPad Pro sales, especially since the iPad Air is on par performance wise and the M1 is way over powered for the time being. All iPad Pro peripherals also work with the iPad Air now too. This line that Apple wants people to spend $1000-$2400 on a tablet that acts as just a peripheral device is ludicrous. I expect a major loss of iPad Pro sales going forward without major changes to the OS.
pretty much this, i got a 12.9 + keyboard cause i thought it would be a macbook replacement, but til this day, still nothing on the horizon, now i barely touch the ipad pro and its just sitting next to my printer as a glorified clock.
 

GuruZac

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i believe you have to look at just how many ppl actually have a m1 ipad, the price for entry is quite high. vs a m1 mac which can do so much more for essentially the same price. developers obviously realized developing professional apps for the ipados is probably just not worth it.
That's only because of the software. And that's the frustrating part. Apple is about to lose expensive iPad Pro sales, which surely have a high profit margin, especially the Pro models.
 

GuruZac

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pretty much this, i got a 12.9 + keyboard cause i thought it would be a macbook replacement, but til this day, still nothing on the horizon, now i barely touch the ipad pro and its just sitting next to my printer as a glorified clock.
Yep. I still love and use my M1 12.9, and it's a great device, but I am now using my M1 MacBook Air all day, every day. The battery performance, portability, and full functionality trump the cool factor of the iPad Pro.
 

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Close it now cause it ain’t happening

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LogicalApex

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I’ve said it a few times since we saw what happened with the 2021 IPad Pro. Apple has painted the iPad Pro into a corner where it will die. It offers very little utility for its price except for very niche workflows. It is also so overpowered for users who do buy it that replacement is unlikely until the device ends up on the obsolete products list.

Take a 1TB 2021 12.9” iPad Pro with 16GB of RAM, M1 Processor, and 1TB of storage. It is unlikely that this device will experience any serious performance reduction over its lifespan since iPad apps are still so restrictive they are targeted to the more common iPad models…

I can’t imagine the market for iPads in that price zone is very large... I’d imagine those who buy a new one prior to obsolete product list or outright breakage is an even smaller market…

But I’m also not convinced we’ll see anything on the IPad. It is pretty clear Apple is really struggling to figure out how they can split the iPad software to best serve the Pro and non-Pro lines.

To me, it is not very hard. Existing macOS apps are all ARM/M1 compatible apps and can run on the iPad or the Mac from a processor perspective. I would offer a “macOS” like mode that is able to be activated once connected to a keyboard and mouse where those apps can run. Back to iPadOS when it isn’t. In a macOS-Lite mode.

But… Apple will do nothing and we’ll all wonder why they let the iPad Pro die off. Just as Microsoft and others are finally figuring out the right place to slot a laptop like tablet.
 

GrumpyCoder

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True, then again, the iPad was never meant for laptop replacement, but as an aide.
Hmmmm... from a The Telegraph interview with Tim Cook in 2015:
"I think if you’re looking at a PC, why would you buy a PC anymore?" Cook told The Telegraph in an interview. "No really, why would you buy one?"


Cook insisted that "the iPad Pro is a replacement for a notebook or a desktop for many, many people" who will "start using it and conclude they no longer need to use anything else, other than their phone."
 
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