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bankshot

macrumors 65816
Jan 23, 2003
1,368
425
Southern California
What I would say to Apple:

Someone please, please take 5 minutes and show Steve that iPod and iTunes both insert incredibly annoying gaps in between songs. Play him a famous gapless album like Pink Floyd's "Dark Side of the Moon" or any live album, let him hear the gap. Give it time to get into his perfectionist head until he explodes and forces the lazy iTunes/iPod team to fix it ASAP. Be sure to tell him that there are several easy ways to fix it, and it's ridiculous that it hasn't been done yet, when a 20 year old CD player can do it better. And that all current "solutions" (join tracks, crossfade, etc) are insufficient, as they don't allow true seamless song transitions while maintaining per-song metadata plus the ability to skip around among tracks when desired.

Please. :eek: :( ;)

There, I feel better now. :rolleyes:
 

macOSX-tastic

macrumors 6502a
Jan 9, 2005
853
3
At the Airport. UK
bankshot said:
What I would say to Apple:

Someone please, please take 5 minutes and show Steve that iPod and iTunes both insert incredibly annoying gaps in between songs. Play him a famous gapless album like Pink Floyd's "Dark Side of the Moon" or any live album, let him hear the gap. Give it time to get into his perfectionist head until he explodes and forces the lazy iTunes/iPod team to fix it ASAP. Be sure to tell him that there are several easy ways to fix it, and it's ridiculous that it hasn't been done yet, when a 20 year old CD player can do it better. And that all current "solutions" (join tracks, crossfade, etc) are insufficient, as they don't allow true seamless song transitions while maintaining per-song metadata plus the ability to skip around among tracks when desired.

Please. :eek: :( ;)

There, I feel better now. :rolleyes:

you can Arrange for gapless playback in iTunes i think? go preferences>playback.....then crossfade playback? im not sure if this is the solution you are looking for, but thats how i get around it. however, you are correct in saying that this feature does not yet exist on the iPod. :(

S
 

p0intblank

macrumors 68030
Sep 20, 2005
2,548
2
New Jersey
I would say...

"Thank you so much!" :D

I sometimes wonder what it would be like if I never made the switch... but, man am I glad I did!
 

cubist

macrumors 68020
Jul 4, 2002
2,075
0
Muncie, Indiana
Hector said:
sometimes i wish i could make a public service annoucement as a sort of mass lesson for n00bs.

the intel move was not a bad decision and i will explain why:
... cpu archetecture fanboyism died in the 90's please let it die here.

Hector, you need to learn some humility (not to mention spelling). You're the noob here, I'll bet I was writing programs before you were born.

Your arguments are fluff. "Fanboyism", phooey. AMD's products are technologically better across the board. Choosing Intel was a "good enough for government work" decision. When I buy a computer, I don't want to pay top dollar for obsolescent hardware. So, I guess I've bought my last Mac.
 

Spanky Deluxe

macrumors demi-god
Mar 17, 2005
5,285
1,789
London, UK
cubist said:
AMD's products are technologically better across the board. Choosing Intel was a "good enough for government work" decision. When I buy a computer, I don't want to pay top dollar for obsolescent hardware. So, I guess I've bought my last Mac.

I agree that most of AMD's products have been vastly superior to Intel's in the last few years. The Athlon 64 and X2s are simply wonderful products while the Pentium 4 is a horrible designed processor in my opinion. It can keep pace but Intel have really been stringing it along and trying to keep it alive for a good while. Their Pentium-M processors, however, have always been simply wonderful. They made me switch back to Intel for my laptop, something I never thought I'd do. The chips that Apple are using are all based on the Pentium-M chip. Even Intel has realised their folly with the P4 and the P4 is in the process of being killed off and being replaced by the Pentium-M.

Sorry for venting here but the whole Apple made a mistake they should have gone with AMD arguements are really irritating (no offence). I love AMD. I love AMD. I've never liked Intel. Intel can provide Apple with a complete solution and the chips that Apple are taking from Intel are seriously good chips. I know you probably won't agree with me but hey!


bankshot said:
What I would say to Apple:

Someone please, please take 5 minutes and show Steve that iPod and iTunes both insert incredibly annoying gaps in between songs. Play him a famous gapless album like Pink Floyd's "Dark Side of the Moon" or any live album, let him hear the gap. Give it time to get into his perfectionist head until he explodes and forces the lazy iTunes/iPod team to fix it ASAP. Be sure to tell him that there are several easy ways to fix it, and it's ridiculous that it hasn't been done yet, when a 20 year old CD player can do it better. And that all current "solutions" (join tracks, crossfade, etc) are insufficient, as they don't allow true seamless song transitions while maintaining per-song metadata plus the ability to skip around among tracks when desired.

Please.

There, I feel better now.

Ohmygod YES!!
 

bankshot

macrumors 65816
Jan 23, 2003
1,368
425
Southern California
macOSX-tastic said:
you can Arrange for gapless playback in iTunes i think? go preferences>playback.....then crossfade playback? im not sure if this is the solution you are looking for, but thats how i get around it.

Crossfade is ok for stuff like live albums where you're crossfading crowd noise. You'll never notice a difference anyway. But even when set to zero, the crossfade still produces a slight hiccup in sound output which is very noticeable on albums with a strong tempo across a seamless track change. So, no go for me. :rolleyes:

I understand that well over 99% of iPod users never notice or care about this, but the fact that it's so easy to fix in a number of different ways (take your pick, Apple) is what bugs me. Not that I expect it to be fixed any time soon! :eek: :p

And for the record, if this problem didn't bug me so much, my answer to this thread (what would you say to Apple) would probably be something along the lines of "Nice job." :)
 

Mord

macrumors G4
Aug 24, 2003
10,091
23
UK
cubist said:
Hector, you need to learn some humility (not to mention spelling). You're the noob here, I'll bet I was writing programs before you were born.

Your arguments are fluff. "Fanboyism", phooey. AMD's products are technologically better across the board. Choosing Intel was a "good enough for government work" decision. When I buy a computer, I don't want to pay top dollar for obsolescent hardware. So, I guess I've bought my last Mac.

It's odd that people seem to be completely unable to grasp the concept of time, only how it is now.

Apple is switching to intel cpu's as they overtake the competition, intel has dominated (performence wise) the mobile segment with the core duo and they will dominate the consumer desktop with conroe, and they will dominate the workstation and server market with woodcrest, AMD has nothing to compare with these cpu's, AMD was on par with the G5 over the last few years, the K8 is about the same clock for clock for the G5 and to switch archetectures for it would be completely pointless, if apple wanted the P4 they would have annouced the intel switch instead of the G5 at the WWDC, they dont they want i868 because they know how much it will dominate the cpu market.

The core duo in todays intel macs will serve and be able to run the latest software for the next 6 or so years just as mac of yesteryear have lack of integrated memory controller and a slightly dated fsb do not change it, heck they dont effect anything, the core duo is an interim cpu that managed to be competitive across half of apples line, it will be replaced by conroe in the imac and maybe the mac mini.

if your worried about 64-bitedness your obviously not a very talented programmer, and know how little difference it makes unless it's scientific programs or programs that need in excess of 4GB of ram, which non of the core duo macs could have before the switch anyway.

Either one of two things are true 1) your a ppc/amd fanboy who has spent too long criticizing intel for their MHz madness 2) you cant be bothered to rewrite your code to be a universal binary, in which case your not a good programmer even if you did start in the 80's, everything i've written is entirely portable and just took a recompile.

and you managed to fall into the biggest trap of all your criticize my spelling because you have no real argument against my points, congratulations, you are a fanboy.


On a general note as dont hurt me and others well know i was a major player on the "ppc rules intel sucks" team but intel has changed their ways and for that i take my hat off for them. They are on the road to making some kick ass hardware weather they are an underdog or not is irrelevant, nor is their copying amd's on board memory controller, it's an obvious feature which pretty much every cpu on the market will have in a few years time, that kind of petty squabbling constrains the growth of technology, AMD and intel are not allowed to sue each other, if either one wants they can produce each others cpu's it's an agreement which is beneficial to both of them.

Oh and I own two g4 cubes myself and i'll use them until the latest version of the OS wont run on them, then i'll buy intel based replacements.

current powerpc cpu's don't suck, nor do current intel cpu's used in macs it's a smooth transition as the powerpc stagnates the Core will take over just as apple planned it for the last year or so.
 

findpankaj

macrumors member
Nov 12, 2005
89
0
odedia said:
Support Right-To-Left languages like Hebrew & Arabic. It is absurd that such a big company that regards itself as a better alternative to Windows disregards over billion people on this planet.

Oded S.
and Hindi (India) ....over a billion proud people in one country...
 

carve

macrumors 6502a
Feb 25, 2006
644
3
Name for software

I like Mac OS X 10.9 PrairieDog,... Go prairiedogs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I would also ask for a thinner iBook G4 with the PowerPC software
 

iHeartTheApple

macrumors 6502
Feb 13, 2006
338
0
Boston, MA
bankshot said:
What I would say to Apple:

Someone please, please take 5 minutes and show Steve that iPod and iTunes both insert incredibly annoying gaps in between songs. Play him a famous gapless album like Pink Floyd's "Dark Side of the Moon" or any live album, let him hear the gap. Give it time to get into his perfectionist head until he explodes and forces the lazy iTunes/iPod team to fix it ASAP. Be sure to tell him that there are several easy ways to fix it, and it's ridiculous that it hasn't been done yet, when a 20 year old CD player can do it better. And that all current "solutions" (join tracks, crossfade, etc) are insufficient, as they don't allow true seamless song transitions while maintaining per-song metadata plus the ability to skip around among tracks when desired.

Please. :eek: :( ;)

There, I feel better now. :rolleyes:

:eek: ...my friend, you have taken the words right from my mouth! This drives me nuts. Plain and simple. Magellan's "The Great Goodnight" series from Hundred Year Flood is absolutely destroyed by the lack of this feature...:(

I also agree with the few posters that asked to lower the prices...

Having said that, I think my official contribution to this thread would be:

"Could I have a job?" ...they could find a place for a grad student in aerospace engineering, right? :eek: :(
 

poolin1243

macrumors 6502
Nov 7, 2005
301
0
Kansas City,MO/Milwaukee, WI
id say please get better quality control

owned 6 macs so far (since my switch in 2003)

ALL 6 have had major problems...3 laptops (all considered lemons, even the replacements) and 3 desktops (mini, powermac, and now as of today, a defective intel iMac)

quality. control.
 
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