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bouncer1

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Oct 6, 2010
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You mean your 1.5GHZ 1.25GB RAM 12" PB. Never met anyone who replaced the onboard ram with a 1gb chip. Would be impressed though if this was true.

yeap that's probably what he meant, it would be amazing if anyone fitted these babies with 2gbs of ram.
 

3N16MA

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I don't have either of these products but just for comparison here are the dimensions and weight of the 12" PB and 11.6" MBA:

12" PB

Height: 1.18 inches (3.0cm)
Width: 10.9 inches (27.7 cm)
Depth: 8.6 inches (21.9 cm)
Weight: 4.6 pounds (2.1 kg) with battery and optical drive installed

11.6" MBA

Height: 0.11-0.68 inches (0.3-1.7 cm)
Width: 11.8 inches (29.95 cm)
Depth: 7.56 inches (19.2 cm)
Weight: 2.3 pounds (1.06 kg)
 

ProstheticHead

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Jun 15, 2007
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Seattle, WA
Had some great luck today!

An Air showed up in my work and a 12" PowerBook came in for service!

Here are the photos...

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Yr Blues

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Jan 14, 2008
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ProstheticHead,

That's so awesome. It's like someone grabbed the 12" and stretched it out a bit. I bet the surface area is about the same.

Damn, Apple—that was the pinnacle of your design department. I think the Air should've had silver colored chicklets as an homage.* And look how small the bezel was. Very elegant.

*all the keys are white on the whitebook.
 

dogcowdaddy

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Jul 9, 2007
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Thanks for the pictures! I am sitting here with my old 12" Powerbook next to by Dell Mini 10 hackbook, and the visual comparison between the two is very similar. Looks like the 13" is going to be the one. The Dell 10" screen is just too small and from the looks of the picture the extra 1.6" is just not enough.

Cheers

Jim

PS: I reserve the right to change my mind after comparing them in person, hopefully on Sunday.
 

Anonymous Freak

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Dec 12, 2002
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Did my wife bring our daughter's PB in to your shop?!?! That has a dent in the exact same place, that looks absolutely identical!

And why does the Air have such a huge border around the screen and keyboard? They couldn't have cut 1/4-1/2" off? Stuck in a smaller squirrel-cage fan, and compressed the two circuit boards closer together, something...
 

1appleAday

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Mar 27, 2008
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ProstheticHead,
Damn, Apple—that was the pinnacle of your design department. I think the Air should've had silver colored chicklets as an homage.* And look how small the bezel was. Very elegant..

+1. I wish the air screen goes all the way to the edge, or at least have thin bezel as the power book
 

iEdd

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Aug 8, 2005
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And why does the Air have such a huge border around the screen and keyboard? They couldn't have cut 1/4-1/2" off? Stuck in a smaller squirrel-cage fan, and compressed the two circuit boards closer together, something...

Pretty sure if there's anything that could be miniaturised, Apple have done it...
 

jhvander

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Apr 7, 2006
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Yes the 12" Powerbook is still the coolest laptop ever. If they redid it but much thinner it would be about perfect.
 

knarzie

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Aug 5, 2008
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the 12" PB is so beautiful!

It's the thicker bezel on the MBA. It just looks out of proportion.
 

iDave

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And why does the Air have such a huge border around the screen and keyboard? They couldn't have cut 1/4-1/2" off? Stuck in a smaller squirrel-cage fan, and compressed the two circuit boards closer together, something...
For a long time I've been wondering the same, about the screen bezel on all of the MacBooks. In this case, the large bezel makes the case big enough for a big trackpad, which is good. Seems like they could just put a bigger screen in there too. :confused:

Not that I'm really complaining. I'm just about ready to pull the trigger and order one for myself.
 

nomad01

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Aug 1, 2005
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Had some great luck today!

An Air showed up in my work and a 12" PowerBook came in for service!

Here are the photos...

Thanks for posting those! I always missed my 12" PB and until the 13" Unibody came out, nothing was close.

When I bought the PB, I was torn between that and one of those tiny Sony Vaio machines. The PB was great but still a little on the chunky side. I just got the 11 inch Air and I have to say it beats my 12" PowerBook.

There's still time for me to find fault with the new Air but so far it's my dream portable machine.
 

Moodikar

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Mar 4, 2010
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Toronto, Canada
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I think the bezel thickness has to do with proportions at the bottom of the screen. If you look to the bottom, the space is the same all around the side and top (or pretty close). If the bezel shrank, then the monitor would be closer to the bottom. The less bezel equally around, the lower the screen and closer to the keys.

I bet the reason the bezel is so big (other than to ensure the camera had enough space at the top) was to equally provide enough space at the bottom to keep the monitor higher up.

Guess they could have made them look like iMacs and had more on the bottom then the top or sides but perhaps it looks imbalanced or uneven or ugly.

Thoughts?
 

bouncer1

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Oct 6, 2010
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Could have been, was looking for a USB wifi solution. Said the laptop was a graduation present for a lucky kid a few years back.

Haha, talk about small world...lol.

Thanks Prosthetic, these look lovely together, absolutely adorable, and I must say the powerbook still looks better. :apple::)

edit: the screen on the air looks disappointingly vertically challenged. So disappointing this 16:10 and now 16:9 is. Makes no sense whatsoever to stretch the screen so much, ok movies, and blah blah, but ultimately it's a moronic industry standard that apple has had to adopt to their detriment I think, and it couldn't be more evident than here.

All that pointless loss of space on the left and right, absolutely pointless in almost everything but the odd tv show or movie one might watch (and if they ever do). It's such a thing of beauty this new air yet it's marred by adopting widescreen tv aspects on a 11.6" screen. Apple had the foresight and guts to use the proper aspect ratio on the ipad, why not then on the air????????????
 

Anonymous Freak

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Dec 12, 2002
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Could have been, was looking for a USB wifi solution. Said the laptop was a graduation present for a lucky kid a few years back.

heh. I know it wasn't, I was just being silly. Daughter's only in elementary school, and I know for a fact it has been sitting in the exact same place in the living room for a week now. I just thought it was odd that you had one with a dent in the identical spot. (I dropped mine during an attempted robbery. I chased the bastard off, but the PowerBook fell out of my broken-zipper laptop case. That was six years ago, and it still works just fine.)
 

Kenrik

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Dec 21, 2004
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Thanks for the photos... I had a 12' powerbook back in the day... ahh the memories..
 
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