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We all have opinions, and not everybody is going to agree with Apple and their current path. I can honestly say there is no other company in the world that brings the products that they do in terms of valuing the customers security, hardware standards and customer service. Those are three things I think that really made this company successful and will continue to evolve for Apple over the course of years to come.
When it comes to opinions on threads like this, my suggestion would be try not to read too deep into everybody says, just find what you appreciate about tech or Apple in general, and validate your own opinion.
When it comes to opinions on threads like this, my suggestion would be try not to read too deep into everybody says, just find what you appreciate about tech or Apple in general, and validate your own opinion.
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I have to say that the specs of the Xs are good in fairness, if not the best and really it's not lacking in any area, cpu/gpu/oled/stereo speakers/Bluetooth/camera/face id/ram & storage/gigabyte lte/wireless charge/build and much more. All the above mentioned are the best available internals on the market, the only things that could have been improved is the design and i have to say that the 30 mins increase in battery compared to the x is really disappointing along with the ridiculous price tag.
It’s pretty much bleeding edge technology.
7nm processor with an 8 core npu, nvme storage, 3D facial recognition, the largest oled display, and stainless steel and glass chassis.
And one of the only phones on the market without a forehead or chin.
Also, as I learned when studying Business/Marketing, all products have a life cycle, maybe the iPhone is in its mature phase.
Way too much text to say goodbye.
That's an understatement. The XS and XS Max are pretty much 2 years ahead of anything else on the market. Wait for the reviews.
Year after year same people complaining about how Apple is dead to them yet bother to come back and post on an Apple-centric site.
Ya I'm no expert or anything but i do know there isn't better specs than what's in the Xs, if you were to net pick there are some things like maybe faster charging and reducing the notch some bit along with maybe another half a millimeter off the bezels but that wasn't going to happen with a s year, apart from them things the most disappointing thing for me with all the new and efficient internals, according to Apple, is i was expecting much improved battery life, i mean there was alot of talk about the A12 and how it was 40% more efficient, but were not seeing it in fairness like, 30 mins lol, it's like this your getting pretty much the best available but apple are sticking you for it.
Your expectations are too high. Its just a phone. What single feature could they add to impress you?
Apple still has that "devils in the details" approach whether you notice it or not.
Last year for example they introduced 4k @ 60hz recording using HEVC. At the time this was something only a $2500 dollar camera could do. Even more impressively these videos can be shared using a compatibility check and background transcoding if necessary. A couple years ago it would take 2x as long as the recorded video was to transcode HEVC using an Intel Core series CPU so it would play on 90% of devices.
This year we are getting wider dynamic range for video recording (10 bit encoding?). Again back to processes only seen in 1000 dollar cameras (just camera body no lenses).
The iPhone is also getting stereo audio recording (latest Samsung devices also support this). While stereo recording isn't a breakthrough or awe-inspiring task to implement it properly isn't an easy task. For example when you are recording someone talking you specifically do not want stereo, mono is preferred. However in events like concerts stereo recording is preferred. To see how Apple handles this will be interesting.
Apples A12 should be pointed out due to their 7nm process. Intel 8th gen CPU's are 14nm and they've been struggling with their 10nm process for quite a while now. AMD's Gen 2 Ryzen and nVidias new RTX 2xxx are using a 12nm process. Snapdragon (Qualcomm) using 14nm and Exynos (Samsung) using 10nm. The A12 is truly next gen. Now I understand that doesn't mean much to the consumer however it leads me back to the devils in the details, not only does Apple design their own SoC they are unrivaled in nearly all aspects of it.
There is a lot of other features and functions Apple stuck into the XS too. Better wifi and cellular tech. Faster wireless charging. Better water resistance. Faster FaceID. Better speakers fidelity. Larger on board storage capacity. Dual sim slots. Etc...
Its not a surprise if video codec, transcode speeds, and processor fabrication doesn't get you excited. Regardless, its just a phone and if you study every feature every year on every iPhone the next update will seem incremental...because it is....
Apple still has that "devils in the details" approach whether you notice it or not.
Last year for example they introduced 4k @ 60hz recording using HEVC. At the time this was something only a $2500 dollar camera could do. Even more impressively these videos can be shared using a compatibility check and background transcoding if necessary. A couple years ago it would take 2x as long as the recorded video was to transcode HEVC using an Intel Core series CPU so it would play on 90% of devices.
This year we are getting wider dynamic range for video recording (10 bit encoding?). Again back to processes only seen in 1000 dollar cameras (just camera body no lenses).
The iPhone is also getting stereo audio recording (latest Samsung devices also support this). While stereo recording isn't a breakthrough or awe-inspiring task to implement it properly isn't an easy task. For example when you are recording someone talking you specifically do not want stereo, mono is preferred. However in events like concerts stereo recording is preferred. To see how Apple handles this will be interesting.
Apples A12 should be pointed out due to their 7nm process. Intel 8th gen CPU's are 14nm and they've been struggling with their 10nm process for quite a while now. AMD's Gen 2 Ryzen and nVidias new RTX 2xxx are using a 12nm process. Snapdragon (Qualcomm) using 14nm and Exynos (Samsung) using 10nm. The A12 is truly next gen. Now I understand that doesn't mean much to the consumer however it leads me back to the devils in the details, not only does Apple design their own SoC they are unrivaled in nearly all aspects of it.
There is a lot of other features and functions Apple stuck into the XS too. Better wifi and cellular tech. Faster wireless charging. Better water resistance. Faster FaceID. Better speakers fidelity. Larger on board storage capacity. Dual sim slots. Etc...
Its not a surprise if video codec, transcode speeds, and processor fabrication doesn't get you excited. Regardless, its just a phone and if you study every feature every year on every iPhone the next update will seem incremental...because it is....
Think he wants a Samsung, but he never actually buys one.
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/i-played-with-the-note-8-and-now-the-iphone-looks-blah.2081683/
what are you mumbling? there is a new feature, it is a new letter, s. The same phone is now called xs.
yeah, im still on my 6S+ and i see no reason to update it. instead of updating the phone, im going to replace the battery before the battery replace programs ends on this year.
His comment history demonstrates that he’s the perfect fit for the MR community.
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MR is the place to bitch about Apple and how much the company sucks, Tim Cook is destroying Jobs’ legacy, their products are both innovation and business failures, and they will be a dead company in a few years.
I do think they were pretty darn greedy not including the fast charging cable at these prices, but that’s Apple.
Actually, that is the only thing which makes sense to me - „slow" (common) charging drastically prolongs the life-time of battery.
Yes. Yesterday I have tried my 5S, 8 and X (which is the same as Xs) side-by-side in a store. Output? Both X and 8 are too large to hold them in one hand SECURELY for me. I don't have that small hands, I could use both 8 and X with one hand without a problem, but it was a different feeling than the SE/5S gives to me - I couldn't get rid of feeling that it could slip out of the hand at any time.
Other aspect are prices in the EU:
SE 128G? ~450 USD
8 64G? ~ 800 USD
XR 64G? ~ 1025 USD
Xs 64G? ~ 1350 USD
That is insane. I am sorry, I could afford it but I cannot justify paying that much for something I was not in love with in a moment I tried that. Buying the 8 is non-sense as it has 2G of RAM ONLY - the same as SE. I am still thinking about what to do now - whether to spend 400 EUR for 128G SE - and buy 2-3 years of time - or what else I could to except replacing my 5S battery for ~40-50 USD. There is NO offering that appeals to me. I can't be alone.
There are two things I miss on my 5S:
1) Better battery life
2) More RAM (I am looking at you, Safari. iOS 12 has improved that quite a lot, though.)
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