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DavidSFenton

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WD My Cloud drives are no longer accessible and my NEAT Scanner no longer functions as there is a communication error when trying to scan. Seems like a lot of things that connect by UBS are having problems. This is utterly ridiculous. I only upgraded to El Capitan because I got the prod from Apple that it was available. I never thought it would render my computer virtually useless for what I do 90% of the time on it. I'm REALLY PISSED!
 

chscag

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WD My Cloud drives are no longer accessible and my NEAT Scanner no longer functions as there is a communication error when trying to scan. Seems like a lot of things that connect by UBS are having problems. This is utterly ridiculous. I only upgraded to El Capitan because I got the prod from Apple that it was available. I never thought it would render my computer virtually useless for what I do 90% of the time on it. I'm REALLY PISSED!

That's why we make backups; so we can go back to our previous version of OS X. Did you use Time Machine before upgrading?
 

DavidSFenton

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Oct 4, 2015
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Eugene, OR
Of course I'm f#@^*ng backed up!!! several different ways! That's not the issue. The issue is an operating system update and the consequences of installing that update. I have more important things to do with my time than sit around uninstalling and reinstalling OS systems which for the price of Apple products should have worked perfectly from the very beginning.
 

Queen6

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First I would say is "calm" report the issue to Apple and the hardware vendors than roll your system back to 10.10.5 overnight. You can revisit 10.11 after a couple of "point" release and see is the issues have been resolved.

By the .1/.2 release the majority of software vendors/dev`s will have issued updates etc. am seeing them rolling in now. Going with the .0 release has always carried greater risk and will continue to do so for numerous reasons. For the sake of stability your always better off waiting a little.

A significant aspect is that peoples systems can and do vary significantly, the only way to guarantee a good OS update is to do your "homework" and ensure all your hardware & App`s are compliant with the new OS prior to pushing the "button" and the eternal "backup, backup, backup"

Q-6
 

Alameda

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A lot of hardware vendors discontinue driver support for products after three years. This kind of failure with an OS upgrade is common. Yosemite, for example, killed my Samsung laser printer. I liked Yosemite, so I eventually bought a new printer.
 
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DavidSFenton

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  1. All very true but, have you ever had to deal with WD tech support? Obviously not and then they will just say it's an Apple issue which most likely it is. Now, going to Apple.com I did leave a comment/problem description there. But my point is, why was all the advertising for El Capitan upgrade when it's a flawed OS right now. That's like selling a new car with the brakes only half-assed designed!
 
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nazuk

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  1. All very true but, have you ever had to deal with WD tech support? Obviously not and then they will just say it's an Apple issue which most likely it is. Now, going to Apple.com I did leave a comment/problem description there. But my point is, why was all the advertising for El Capitan upgrade when it's a flawed OS right now. That's like selling a new car with the brakes only half-assed designed!


User Error. My system is working fine. Not half assed here.
 
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Weaselboy

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WD My Cloud drives are no longer accessible and my NEAT Scanner no longer functions as there is a communication error when trying to scan. Seems like a lot of things that connect by UBS are having problems. This is utterly ridiculous. I only upgraded to El Capitan because I got the prod from Apple that it was available. I never thought it would render my computer virtually useless for what I do 90% of the time on it. I'm REALLY PISSED!

http://www.neat.com/helpcenter/neat-for-mac-and-el-capitan/

Looks like the NEAT issue is a known issue and you will need to wait for new drivers from them.

I also found this in the WD support forums. Looks like you are not the only one having this issue. In that thread they suggest trying the below as a temporary measure.

1) Select Finder

2) In the menu bar, select "Go", and then "Connect to Server..." (alternatively, one can press Command-K)

3) In the Server Address box, type afp:// followed by the name of your device that's listed in the sidebar. For example:

afp://wdmycloud

4) Choose Guest, or Registered User to login to a private share

5) Click Connect

6) Choose the share name you wish to mount

I'm not defending Apple, but both of these are issues that will need to be resolved by the third party firmware/software and their vendors. El Capitan made some big changes by implementing System Integrity Protection (SIP), and that broke compatibility with a lot of third party applications and drivers.

Hope this helps some.
 

dmnc

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  1. All very true but, have you ever had to deal with WD tech support? Obviously not and then they will just say it's an Apple issue which most likely it is. Now, going to Apple.com I did leave a comment/problem description there. But my point is, why was all the advertising for El Capitan upgrade when it's a flawed OS right now. That's like selling a new car with the brakes only half-assed designed!
I wouldn't go as far as saying it's a "flawed OS", in my personal experience I haven't had any problems so far with 10.11. Calm down and try to solve it.
 
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Tygrz

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WD My Cloud drives are no longer accessible and my NEAT Scanner no longer functions as there is a communication error when trying to scan. Seems like a lot of things that connect by UBS are having problems. This is utterly ridiculous. I only upgraded to El Capitan because I got the prod from Apple that it was available. I never thought it would render my computer virtually useless for what I do 90% of the time on it. I'm REALLY PISSED!
TELL me about it!! With this El Capitan farce I have lost 2 hard drives and my newest iMac. If I can't get any satisfaction from Apple tomorrow I will really consider starting a class-action SUIT!!
 

ApolloBoy

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TELL me about it!! With this El Capitan farce I have lost 2 hard drives and my newest iMac. If I can't get any satisfaction from Apple tomorrow I will really consider starting a class-action SUIT!!
You must be real fun at parties.

Anyway, that's why you always make backups *before* you upgrade to a new OS and do some research to make sure that anything critical that you use will work on the new OS. That way if something goes wrong you can easily revert back to Yosemite and wait until there are new drivers/software for El Cap.
 
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pat500000

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El Capitan betas were out for almost a year. If these guys have not updated the drivers on their products, it's not Apple's fault.
From my understanding after I read someone's comment about MS office problem...he said that dev can't do anything without actual GM. Now..i don't know much about developing...but, it seems possible.
 

leman

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The WD issue is most likely because of their buggy implementation of the network file protocol (I guess AFP or SMB). A buggy software can work under fine one OS and then stop working when the OS is updated — this is not the fault of the OS vendor. All my USB and network devices (including a Snow Leopard server) work perfectly fine with 10.11. So yeah, not Apple's fault.

P.S. It has also nothing to do with SIP, even if a third party driver is required. Apple has communicated for years that third party should not install any driver to the system location. There is an extra folder for this purpose. There is a specification and if a software developer does not follow it, all blames are off.
 

sibcc

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Oct 5, 2015
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Of course I'm f#@^*ng backed up!!! several different ways! That's not the issue. The issue is an operating system update and the consequences of installing that update. I have more important things to do with my time than sit around uninstalling and reinstalling OS systems which for the price of Apple products should have worked perfectly from the very beginning.

I completely agree with you. There is no excuse for the problems that EC has brought. Apple dropping the proverbial ball is becoming a habit with Tim Cook and company. Reminds me of some Microsoft "upgrades." Obviously, MS was forced to support a wide variety of different hardware combinations whereas Apple only has to support their own hardware. There was a time when Apple would never have released something this buggy. The yearly upgrade cycle is also silly IMHO for developing a robust system.
 
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ApolloBoy

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The WD issue is most likely because of their buggy implementation of the network file protocol (I guess AFP or SMB).
FWIW, my family has a My Cloud EX2 which is used as a media server and I've been able to access it just fine with El Cap.

There was a time when Apple would never have released something this buggy.
The Apple III? The Newton? OS X Cheetah and Puma?
 

stooovie

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WD My Cloud user here. No issues whatsoever with El Cap, even in betas. What seems to be the problem?
 

sibcc

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Oct 5, 2015
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FWIW, my family has a My Cloud EX2 which is used as a media server and I've been able to access it just fine with El Cap.


The Apple III? The Newton? OS X Cheetah and Puma?

Those were major paradigm shifts and not an incremental software upgrade to existing hardware. I forgot all about the shortlived III. IIRC, I learned Pascal on an Apple ii or was it that Commodore with the original crappy Chiclet keyboard and tape storage. BTW, keyboards are another gripe I have with Apple; but then if it's not a Model M, even on a Mac, I'm not satisfied. Apple ought be more prudent when they release an upgrade to a largely technical inept public. IMHO, they've become too cavalier. Mobile might be their primary money stream, but they'd be wise to remember what put them in their position.
 

schwadorf

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Mar 13, 2013
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Istanbul
WD My Cloud user here.

I had the same issue as the OP. It wouldn't connect when I click on WDMyCloud in Finder.

I fixed it by pressing Command + K and typing in the IP address of My Cloud. I can then either login as a guest and browse public folders or type in my username/password and have full access.
 
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golfnut1982

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Oct 12, 2014
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Of course I'm f#@^*ng backed up!!! several different ways! That's not the issue. The issue is an operating system update and the consequences of installing that update. I have more important things to do with my time than sit around uninstalling and reinstalling OS systems which for the price of Apple products should have worked perfectly from the very beginning.
LOL, sorry bout that. "Of course I'm f#@^*ng backed up!!!" CLASSIC. Make sure you f#@^*ng thank everyone for their time and expertise with your "problem". And BTW, nothing works perfectly, especially with a new operating system. Just learn from it, and maybe offer advice sometime down the road for someone else...
 

fessen

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May 4, 2011
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I feel for the OP. I had a bad experience with WD external drives (advertised for Mac!) back with the upgrade to Mavericks, which I had already put off upgrading to for months after its official release. None of the new external drives I've bought since then have been WD drives, and I don't plan on trusting them again in the foreseeable future.
 
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