Wow, that um..sucks. Glad I don't usually do anything Samsung. My Brother laser print, bought in 2010 still works well. I find it hard to believe a big company like Samsung would just discontinue support so quickly.
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I'm totally screwed by El Capitan
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Wow, that um..sucks. Glad I don't usually do anything Samsung. My Brother laser print, bought in 2010 still works well. I find it hard to believe a big company like Samsung would just discontinue support so quickly.
The thing is I cannot USE the drive, now. So a back-up is useless!!
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A solid backup solution is indispensable, with OS X you can create a "Bootable" clone with SuperDuper or Carbon Copy Cloner. You boot from the external clone and restore it back to the Primary internal drive, downtime would be a matter of just a few hours.
I feel for your situation, equally you are also in a position to learn how to prevent it recurring, as ultimately you will be updating the OS at some point in time. Alternatively you can continue down your current path...
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All the dollars they made from a free upgrade? I hope you didn't pay to upgrade to 10.11 - it was free, zero dollars. How exactly are they "keeping up or beating Microsoft?" - Two separate companies, two separate OSes and if you think everything goes swimmingly when you upgrade a Windows OS I want to visit the planet you live on - the fact is 3rd party peripherals are just that, 3rd party. You put a tank of bad gas in your car it isn't the car manufactures fault - it is the bad gas. The gas you put into your tank, like the peripherals you attach to any computer are out of the hands of the original manufacturer.
I use a Neat scanner - them not having an up to date driver is not Apple's fault - the Neat paperweight on my desk is being held up by them not Apple.
It is preposterous to expect Apple or any other computer manufacturer to ensure their hardware works with every conceivable 3rd party peripheral. If you have a peripheral that you depend on you wait to upgrade until they (the peripheral manufacturer) have made the changes they need to make in order to support the updated OS not the other way around.
The first beta is when a lot of developers start seeing how their devices and applications interact with the new OS. El Capitan's first beta was back in June. During these betas is when most of the hard development is done.
Apple then releases the GM to the developers before it's released to the public. Developers got the GM on September 9th. It was released to the public on September 30th. During that three week period is when the developers can do any fine-tuning required for the solution, get their updates uploaded to the App Store, etc.
There's no reason for developers to wait until the public release of a Mac OS X update before they start looking at it, IMO.
I hope before you scrapped your Samsung printer that you checked Apple's site for the latest Samsung Printer Driver.
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How did an OS X upgrade manage to kill two of your hard drives??? Were they externals? Did they depend on drivers?
If you want Mavericks, it's just a matter of making a bootable USB flash drive, booting from it, formatting your startup volume, and installing. I don't see how it's impossible.
If I knew, I'd tell you. All I can tell you is that both drives were working flawlessly prior to trying to install EC. Now, both drives won't unmount... and yes, I've tried all suggested unmounting methods. One drive internal, the other external.
As for Mavericks, I also am aware of the process you describe. I just can't seem to get the app store to give me a working version of that OS. Either that, or I cannot install it now, because as it has sometimes indicated, it's 'too old' to be installed, which tells me again that the erase/format didn't work.
I had a third drive (external) that also seemingly got borked but I managed to get it back... just don't ask me how (!!) and it's working okay with a fresh install of 10.6.8.
No matter what I try, the other two aforementioned drives seem to be toast.
As for Mavericks, I also am aware of the process you describe. I just can't seem to get the app store to give me a working version of that OS. Either that, or I cannot install it now, because as it has sometimes indicated, it's 'too old' to be installed, which tells me again that the erase/format didn't work.
I had a third drive (external) that also seemingly got borked but I managed to get it back... just don't ask me how (!!) and it's working okay with a fresh install of 10.6.8.
No matter what I try, the other two aforementioned drives seem to be toast.
The problem is the now-not-working drive!! Sure, you can run from the backup drive, and I'm doing that. The problem is the borked drive is seemingly now unusable, and no matter what is attempted to rectify the situation, the drive remains 'dead'. I could possibly see that with the internal as it is a Western Digital and I have had 0 luck with those. The external is a Seagate, which I have nothing but good to say about. Then there's the matter of my newest iMac, which when I attempted to update from the GM last night ALSO went south when I went to install the recent release. Fortunately, it's back, but that scared the living hell out of me.
My first external was a 'my book' 500 Gb. It NEVER ran right. I erased and reformatted numerous times - that's if I could get the damn thing to start up!! Got fed up seeing it just sitting here and decided to take it apart. The hard drive is now in my iMac. It WAS working rather well until EC. Point being I blame the external enclosure on it's idiosyncrasies in it's early life...
And music used to be better, and what is it with these damn kids these days, amirite?
Nope! Music is just as good today as yesterday as long as its classical. As for kids? Today, a lot of them remind me of pinballs: they're kind of oblivious to the world until they bump into things and change direction. Actually, I think a sense of, for lack of a better term, craftsmanship is missing. And yes, I do expect close to perfection when an incremental update is released to an OS. Obvious problems ought be ferreted out before wide release.
Great post Q-6! Thats exactly my upgrade strategy for OS X and/or Windows. Ofcourse having a very tight backup scheme (on- and off-site) is a no-brainer...
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Absolutely a bootable external backup is mandatory. If you proceed to do a major OS upgrade, especially a .0 OS X release there are so many potential issues. Proceeding to upgrade without such a backup is literally "playing with fire" as they say "you reap, what you sow"
Even if your Mac is solely used recreationally backing up with SuperDuper or Carbon Copy Cloner is a " no brainer" prior to a major OS update, those who proceed to update critical systems without the same, I have little sympathy for obvious reason...
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I use Carbon Copy Cloner since owning a cMP bought in 2008. IMHO the best way to bootable-backup-secure your previous system state before doing an update/upgrade. Best feature is that is bootable, that I used many times to troubleshoot new upgrades or even using it for a full system restore when changed from HDD to SSD.
BTW: I don't and never have relied on Time Machine too much for that matter.
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Same here Time Machine is primarily a file archival application, I would never rely on it to restore a drive, in actuality I have not used Time Machine in years for the same reason. My working data is encrypted and automatically backed up across multiple Mac`s.
Q-6
I haven't had one problem with OS X El Capitan. It works great for me and I love pinning the websites to my browser.