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I'm unjailbreaking and going to 2.2.1

Gix1k

Gix1k

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Couple reasons why. Well, when 3.0 comes out I want it immediately and I am sure there won't be a jailbroke version right away. Next, I am tired of things opening so slowly...I click text, wait..wait..wait...wait...wait, opens. I get this with almost every app. Getting tired of it. I figure going back will fix this. I hope. Thoughts?
 
I couldn't agree with you more. I've unjailbroken and jailbroken like 4 times now and everything time I go back to non jailbroken. Like you, I was sick of the lag and also the numerous bugs. I used to have to restart like 3 times a day because of freezes but now it's about once a week or so. So much better! The features aren't even worth it for me. Themes just look gimmicky and un:apple:. That's why I stay unjailbroken now!
 
Yeah, the jailbreaking thing was fun for about a month and then I ended up restoring for those same reasons. Haven't regretted it...
 
Thoughts?
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Yeah, there's nothing wrong with your choice. It's probably for the best, if "unjailbreaking" gives you a better user experience. We all have different use requirements and things we'd like to see out of our devices.

However, keep in mind that these notions of "bugginess" and "slowness" are entirely unrelated to the notion of "jailbreaking," but rather due to installing things without a care or whim as to what they actually are. It's not unlike installing a lot of things on your computer, without care as to what they actually are, and then complaining that the computer is running slowly.

Themes just look gimmicky and un:apple:.
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Quite right on the latter point. There's much to "jailbreaking" that is "un Apple," and that's probably for the best.
 
Good move. If you can't manage the jailbroken applications well enough that your experience is suffering, it's the smart move.

Fortunately I can keep my phone jailbroken and not suffer the slowdown with smart add-on management. I need my statusbar notifications!
 
the jailbreak wasn't a good move for me. after i had did it to my iphone 3g. I had numerous problems. and one day my iphone just hung on the apple screen. I restored back to 2.2.1 and haven't looked back....
 
gdeusthewhizkid said:
the jailbreak wasn't a good move for me. after i had did it to my iphone 3g. I had numerous problems. and one day my iphone just hung on the apple screen. I restored back to 2.2.1 and haven't looked back....
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Exact same. Jailbreaking is cool, but really can jack with your phone.
 
Yeah, the themes are cool to people who don't have them. I mainly kept for people that say "Oh cool, how'd you make it look that way". That makes it worth it, but the decline in performance is killing me. I hate waiting as long as I do. I want to say it has to be related to JB cause my wife has the same issue. I also have an issue with when I slide to unlock...it freezes on the right side for seconds before it unlocks. After "24" goes off....i'm going at it!! :eek:

I sure will miss "lockdown"
 
I used to have a thing for alternating between jailbreaking and stock for 1 month each. It was quite interesting, just being able to have the power of choice. But after a few months of that it really got frustrating in the aspect that I started missing the snappiness of stock software. Bye bye jailbreak. I guess it kind of goes with the novelty of the iPhone.
 
Pared said:
Fortunately I can keep my phone jailbroken and not suffer the slowdown with smart add-on management.
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Can you say a bit more how you do this? I'm jailbroken and don't plan to go back, but I would still love to get rid of the lag.
 
jarjarblinks said:
I used to have a thing for alternating between jailbreaking and stock for 1 month each. It was quite interesting, just being able to have the power of choice. But after a few months of that it really got frustrating in the aspect that I started missing the snappiness of stock software. Bye bye jailbreak. I guess it kind of goes with the novelty of the iPhone.
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Many people have the same habits and views as you. I too tried jailbreaking many, many times and I get sick of the bugginess and slowdowns. However, there are a lot of hardcore jailbreakers out there that will swear up and down that they do not experience ANY lag or slowness at all... not even the tiniest bit and they're apparently running WinterBoard, 5-icon Dock, Status Notifier, Backgrounder and SBSettings. I like to call those people liars or really not paying attention to how slow their iPhone is compared to stock.

I say... jailbreak if you want, but I like a fast and responsive iPhone. Plus, I don't have to worry about whether a jailbroken app is using up my limited resources.
 
TheSpaz said:
not even the tiniest bit and they're apparently running WinterBoard, 5-icon Dock, Status Notifier, Backgrounder and SBSettings. I like to call those people liars or really not paying attention to how slow their iPhone is compared to stock.
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I don't call them liars, but I'd definitely suspect that they're not being truthful.

If, however, you avoid background processes and anything that uses MobileSubstrate (as both the framework and the apps that use it tend to be quite leaky), you can indeed have a jailbroken phone with no noticeable performance degradation.
 
ppc750fx said:
I don't call them liars, but I'd definitely suspect that they're not being truthful.

If, however, you avoid background processes and anything that uses MobileSubstrate (as both the framework and the apps that use it tend to be quite leaky), you can indeed have a jailbroken phone with no noticeable performance degradation.
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Hmm... that's not really what I said. I said that some people say they have all this crap running and they don't notice a slowdown. I even saw one guy post a youtube video where he had side by side comparison and his jailbroken iPhone was slower, but he said it was faster for some reason. He thought it was faster because when he launched the weather channel app, his app took longer to start up but then it was faster to DOWNLOAD new data... and to him that means it started up faster.
 
I wiped my phone, took it back to Apple and exchanged it. Now I have a fresh new one. This thing runs like a dream. Sooooo much faster than the jailbroke one I had. Amazing!! I don't see me ever going back. I miss the flashiness of the jailbreak, diff sms tones, etc. Oh well, performance is far more important to me.
 
haha its funny how many people dont know how to make jailbreak useful. i am not even going to argue because i have so many times but jailbreaking doesnt cause lag if you know what your doing . and jailbreaking wont "jack" your iphone.. its just a bunch of little kids here trying to jailbreak and having no idea what they are doing then complain here about OMG BRICK HELP! OMG.. i have been jailbreaking since the 1x firmware.. NEVER lag NEVER any problems
 
Jailbreaking is great for people who like to "tinker" but for every day use, for some, it's not practical.
 
fratboy said:
haha its funny how many people dont know how to make jailbreak useful. i am not even going to argue because i have so many times but jailbreaking doesnt cause lag if you know what your doing . and jailbreaking wont "jack" your iphone.. its just a bunch of little kids here trying to jailbreak and having no idea what they are doing then complain here about OMG BRICK HELP! OMG.. i have been jailbreaking since the 1x firmware.. NEVER lag NEVER any problems
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Oh go away...I know I did mine correctly. There is a definite decrease in performance. Most of the people I know that have jailbroke phones experience the same lag. I didnt have any problems. Phone worked great, was just sloooow
 
Here are all my reasons why I stopped jailbreaking:
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/649389/

@ fratboy... I have tons of experience in jailbreaking and modding and I can say first hand that it doesn't matter if you know exactly what you are doing... you're going to cause lag by installing stuff that runs in the background. The reason for the lag is the lack of available memory. Installing stuff like Cycorder won't cause lag because those are standalone apps that quit when you close them. However, installing stuff like WinterBoard, SBSettings, or StatusNotifier will use up your very limited memory (the iPhone already has barely enough memory to function running stock stuff).
 
Guys, I have a question...

I have to get my phone replaced. I have 2.1 jailbroken.

If they replace my phone, it will likely be 2.2.1....could I still jailbreak the new phone with the potential to unlock it later down the road? An answer would be very much appreciated.
 
JajoPGH said:
Guys, I have a question...

I have to get my phone replaced. I have 2.1 jailbroken.

If they replace my phone, it will likely be 2.2.1....could I still jailbreak the new phone with the potential to unlock it later down the road? An answer would be very much appreciated.
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It depends on which bootloader the phone comes with. If it is 5.9 then you can't unlock it as of now, but most likely the dev team will come out with an unlock for the new baseband eventually.
 
JajoPGH said:
Guys, I have a question...

I have to get my phone replaced. I have 2.1 jailbroken.

If they replace my phone, it will likely be 2.2.1....could I still jailbreak the new phone with the potential to unlock it later down the road? An answer would be very much appreciated.
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The new iPhone will most likely come with 2.2.1. You can jailbreak 2.2.1 but there's no guarantee that you'll be able to unlock it yet.

pH (Pedro Henrique Franceschi) created a tool to help you downgrade your baseband from 2.30.03 to 2.28.00. To use this tool, you have to have to have an iPhone with bootloader 5.8. If your iPhone was manufactured before September 2008, you’re good. If you bought your iPhone after September 2008 with firmware 2.2.1 out of the box, then you can’t use pHaseBanDowngrader because your bootloader is 5.9.

Here are the instructions on how to downgrade using pHaseBanDowngrader:

1. Download this file
2. SSH into your iPhone and put the downloaded folder (phasebandowngrader) inside the folder /Applications/
3. In MobileTerminal.app, type “login” and enter “root” as user, the default password is “alpine”
4. Now, type “cd /Applications/phasebandowngrader && ./phasebandowngrader”. Follow the screen instructions
5. Done!
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Thanks to you guys for the quick answers...

Another question... So I can jailbreak 2.2.1 even with Quickpwn? I heard Quickpwn will make it so that in the future you can't unlock your phone. Is that true?
 
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