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iMac 24” M1. Any problems with them? (Poll)

Current owners, after using a while would you still buy?

  • Yes

    Votes: 33 64.7%

  • No

    Votes: 10 19.6%

  • Yes but get it with 16Gb now

    Votes: 8 15.7%
  • Total voters
    51
AppleShareholder said:
Whatever you get from the Mac, you can get better from windows at the same price.
I tried converting a video to webm format and my iMac sounded like it was about to explode.

My windows PC is just an i5-8400 with GTX 1050 ti and there was not even a peep when I did any kind of video editing/compression/conversion. All I had to do was replace the stock intel cooler with a cooler master and it was dead silent even under heavy load.
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I wonder, do you know that you are in an Apple forum, right? What do you expect? Most people that are here love Apple and especially the Mac. I have never experienced any lag with Apple Silicon based computers. None whatsoever, even when using Handbrake to convert big video files to mp4. I had lag with Intel based Macs before. A lot actually.
I also use Windows computers daily and not just what my work has given me. I used to have Microsoft's Surface Book 1 & 2 and Surface Pro and they were all awful to use. Driver issues, problems with power management, instability in the OS. It was a mess.
Windows Computers do offer better performance in gaming though. For everything else I would never ever consider to get a PC. But each to their own I guess.
 
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petvas said:
I wonder, do you know that you are in an Apple forum, right? What do you expect? Most people that are here love Apple and especially the Mac. I have never experienced any lag with Apple Silicon based computers. None whatsoever, even when using Handbrake to convert big video files to mp4. I had lag with Intel based Macs before. A lot actually.
I also use Windows computers daily and not just what my work has given me. I used to have Microsoft's Surface Book 1 & 2 and Surface Pro and they were all awful to use. Driver issues, problems with power management, instability in the OS. It was a mess.
Windows Computers do offer better performance in gaming though. For everything else I would never ever consider to get a PC. But each to their own I guess.
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You do know how contradictory your statements are, right?
How can Windows offer better performance in gaming but not offer better performance in other areas? Gaming is probably the most computationally-intensive task that stresses the entire hardware. If you have better gaming performance, you'll have better performance everywhere else.
 
I really wanted to like Macs. The UI is definitely beautiful and the fingerprint scanner is convenient. Windows 11 looks extremely outdated compared to Macs.
Unfortunately (I just had a lag as I was typing this word and converting a 25-min video to webm), I prefer stability and performance over looks.
 
AppleShareholder said:
You do know how contradictory your statements are, right?
How can Windows offer better performance in gaming but not offer better performance in other areas? Gaming is probably the most computationally-intensive task that stresses the entire hardware. If you have better gaming performance, you'll have better performance everywhere else.
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If windows is better at gaming it is only because the games are built for windows and then ported over to the Mac.
This thread is about the 2021 iMac not which is better Windows or Mac. Some people like Tea and others Coffee, then there are some who prefer whiskey in the mornings. We are all different I like my iMac if you like you windows machine that is OK.
 
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For a Mac fan site, it’s amazing the amount of anti-Mac-fans that show up here.
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I think it's fair that I'm posting here. I am using an M1 iMac, so I'm just posting my thoughts without any fanboy bias. I am not claiming that Windows is outright superior to Macs.
Macs do some things well and Windows do other things well.
If you prefer looking at a nice UI, then Macs are for you.
For everything else, Windows is better.
 
dimme said:
If windows is better at gaming it is only because the games are built for windows and then ported over to the Mac.
This thread is about the 2021 iMac not which is better Windows or Mac. Some people like Tea and others Coffee, then there are some who prefer whiskey in the mornings. We are all different I like my iMac if you like you windows machine that is OK.
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I think the performance delta would still be there even if games were optimized for Macs. For laptops, look at the Razer laptops with RTX 30-series in them. There's no way an M1 comes close to that level of performance.
For desktops, look at ibuypower. You can get an i5-12600Kf, RTX 3060 ti, 16 GB DDR4, 1 TB NVMe SSD, for 1400 in some days.
There's no way an iMac is beating that.
 
AppleShareholder said:
I think the performance delta would still be there even if games were optimized for Macs. For laptops, look at the Razer laptops with RTX 30-series in them. There's no way an M1 comes close to that level of performance.
For desktops, look at ibuypower. You can get an i5-12600Kf, RTX 3060 ti, 16 GB DDR4, 1 TB NVMe SSD, for 1400 in some days.
There's no way an iMac is beating that.
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I don’t think people buy an iMac with gaming in mind. Yes it will play some etc, but any computer, not console, gamer knows you wouldn’t buy a Mac, and go PC for this alone. Mac can’t upgrade PC can.

If you haven’t had a good experience with Mac that’s fine, not everyone does. Sell it and cut losses and get a Win PC and be happy.

I personally think you should factory reset and start again as some of your complaints on basic scrolling etc seems weird, and haven’t heard of that anywhere. I also can’t believe Apple wouldn’t look into this if it was a wide ranging problem as it is with you everyday in your face.
 
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The important thing to understand is Apple users will never stop using Apple hardware and software just for performance. I very rarely have speed issues, and even if I did, I would never switch sides. It's the ecosystem. Everything integrated, from the watch to the speakers to the phone to the computer. I will never change, I don't need to care about performance thankfully. I export a video once a year, it makes no sense to me (and to 99% of Apple users) to think about switching. Remember, no one cares about performance.
 
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coso said:
The important thing to understand is Apple users will never stop using Apple hardware and software just for performance. I very rarely have speed issues, and even if I did, I would never switch sides. It's the ecosystem. Everything integrated, from the watch to the speakers to the phone to the computer. I will never change, I don't need to care about performance thankfully. I export a video once a year, it makes no sense to me (and to 99% of Apple users) to think about switching. Remember, no one cares about performance.
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Funny. Wasn't the "superior" performance of the M1 chip supposed to be the main selling point of these machines? Because that's the reason why I decided to buy one.
I feel most of the people touting the M1 performance only browse Facebook and YouTube. Anyone who does serious work on these machines and is not an Apple fanboy would tell you that the performance is unimpressive.
 
AppleShareholder said:
Funny. Wasn't the "superior" performance of the M1 chip supposed to be the main selling point of these machines? Because that's the reason why I decided to buy one.
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But in fact I'm amazed at how fast my M1 is. As will be the 99% of their buyers. You come here saying that it's not fast enough. But true or not true, what I said remains. The most important thing for an Apple user is the ecosystem, not the performance. You have "one foot on two shoes" (Italian saying) so probably you don't have problem switching back and forth. But most Apple users don't.
 
I just tried streaming a video and the lag was horrendous. The video was just unwatchable on the other end. My friend was complaining about how bad it was.

My Windows PC (i5-8400 and GTX 1050 ti) streamed the video just fine, but this Mac is lagging like hell.
Wasn't the M1 supposed to be better than the i5-8400 and GTX 1050 ti? Is this just another proof that Apple is rigging the benchmarks?

As for my friend, I was trying to show her something funny so I could get lucky with her. Thanks a lot for ruining that, Apple.
 
You sure you don't have wifi problems?

Or maybe Tim is sabotaging your love life. Maybe if your friend were a *he* it would have worked better ?
 
Pretty sure it's not wifi.
The problem appears to be performance-related. Silly me to think an integrated GPU can outperform a discrete GPU.
 
AppleShareholder said:
Pretty sure it's not wifi.
The problem appears to be performance-related. Silly me to think an integrated GPU can outperform a discrete GPU.
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It sounds like a Mac is not for you. Perhaps you should just sell your machine and stick with windows.
For other reading this I have over tax my iMac many times and it holds up great.
 
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dimme said:
It sounds like a Mac is not for you. Perhaps you should just sell your machine and stick with windows.
For other reading this I have over tax my iMac many times and it holds up great.
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I'm willing to stick with this for a year or 2 to see if I change my mind.
 
You know, I have to give Apple credit for making an integrated GPU that performs like an entry-level discrete GPU. I'm not going to downplay that they have the best integrated GPU in the market.

I just don't agree with some of the hyperbolic statements from Apple fanatics that this integrated GPU can compete with mid and high-end discrete GPUs.
 
AppleShareholder said:
You do know how contradictory your statements are, right?
How can Windows offer better performance in gaming but not offer better performance in other areas? Gaming is probably the most computationally-intensive task that stresses the entire hardware. If you have better gaming performance, you'll have better performance everywhere else.
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This is not true and shows how good you understand how computers really work. If you are happy with Windows, then great. There are many options out there. Different people, different needs.
 
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petvas said:
This is not true and shows how good you understand how computers really work. If you are happy with Windows, then great. There are many options out there. Different people, different needs.
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While gaming performance doesn't tell the whole story, it's a hell of a lot better of a measurement of performance than synthetic benchmarks that I believe Apple is gaming.

The M1 Mac performs worse than the i5-8400 at almost everything in the real world, yet benchmarks are saying the opposite. Benchmarks are not everything.
 
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Your are comparing it to other cpu using actual names. This is hilarious. Most of the perceived performance derives from the SSD speed anyway. There are countless workflow videos in YouTube. The M1 is always blazing fast with no perceived slow downs. Does it lag sometimes? Of course. It takes a while in Photoshop when you do some tasks, or if you open big files. But when you use it never feels a “slow” computer, despite you saying otherwise
 
Whatever floats yer boat.
I have a worklife 30 years experience of windows which is why this hiccup in the ownership of the new M1/OS for me means I stick with apple as I also have a similar time worth experience of Apple and it has been good (Amiga then Tangerine, emac, iMac, M1). I like what I see in the future here. I don't like this M1, but I would still use it over a standalone windows.

All my apps are Apple anyway.
 
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