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iMac 27 - nasty and highly reflective glass; PLEASE offer the matte screen option!
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You are my new hero of today.
Yes, I got a dodgy iMac. It flickers. It's a pain I have to send it back, but at least Apple are actually bending over backwards to get it picked up and a new one sent out to me, unlike many companies out there that try and wriggle out of returns. They immediately admitted that I had a problem, and took steps to fix it.
Further, getting one "broken" product isn't going to stop me from buying an Apple in the future, or just returning for a refund. If my replacement is also flawed in some way, I may just re-evaluate my position, but right now, I'm willing to take at least one replacement and see how it goes. I have owned many Macs over the years and this is the first I've had that has been DoA.
Basically, I don't throw my toys out of the pram after one issue. Two? Three? Yeah, maybe. I'm hardly cutting Apple much slack, or licking their rear end. My iMac is great, apart from the flicker. I'm expecting the replacement to be perfect.
if you're seriously into your graphic design or photo editing (or a professional), why not get a shield for your monitor that stops light hitting it? don't know if you can get them for the 27" imac specifically yet.
something like this
These hoods were on used in the 'old days' on CRTs. I have a 24" imac 2.8 Extreme with the glossy screen. As a photographer and a graphic designer i though this would be an issue and it is not. My studio has 5 windows on 4 sides of the room. The only time the gloss is an issue is around 8 AM when the sun is shining directly into the room....I just close the shade...done.
WTY! If I may return your compliment with another, you have the single greatest Avatar of all time.
As a 'professional' I work on the 2.8 Extreme imac. While it is not as fast as the current versions, is more than fast enough for all of Adobe CS4 programs etc.
I had 2 G4 towers before and I would have had the same issues, if the ADC monitor failed and would have down time no matter if it was a G4 or my iMac.
you cant be serious , a photographer who wants a iMac with glossy or matte screen ? get a old big crt and a macpro ,
i tried many lcd or tft and i simply hate them , ok they look nice and slim but the colors are so damn unreal , even calibrating for hours on end doesnt realy help , ok i admit i have good eyesight and i`m not half blind , which might be the problem
i bought myself a lacie electron blue 4 22" monitor and using it on my powermac g5 , its like looking through a window and not like looking at a screen and there is no glare at all
i`m a big fan of crt`s
i tried many lcd or tft and i simply hate them , ok they look nice and slim but the colors are so damn unreal , even calibrating for hours on end doesnt realy help , ok i admit i have good eyesight and i`m not half blind , which might be the problem
i bought myself a lacie electron blue 4 22" monitor and using it on my powermac g5 , its like looking through a window and not like looking at a screen and there is no glare at all
i`m a big fan of crt`s
to bring this thread back on topic (as in, drop the whole "pro, not pro" argument bollocks) I'd recommend you get a previous generation Mac Pro. They're epic machines and can be had for a great deal
The problem with the iMac is the lack of extra drive bays. It has firewire 800, but that's not even comparable to real SATA internal drives. Plus, as the Mac Pro gets older, just upgrade the graphics and shove more RAM in it; you don't have to get a whole new system.
The problem with the iMac is the lack of extra drive bays. It has firewire 800, but that's not even comparable to real SATA internal drives. Plus, as the Mac Pro gets older, just upgrade the graphics and shove more RAM in it; you don't have to get a whole new system.
um, cant you just take the glass off?
It looks horrible then.
The glass is my biggest pet peeve about all of Apples new computers, I love it on my iPhone but all it does is add unnecessary glare, sure it looks pretty but it doesn't enhance the picture like a glossy screen vs a matte screen, it just adds more glare to a glossy screen. It really doesn't make sense.
I'm going to go out on a limb here and say the vast majority of professional photographers have now switched to LCD. They produce perfectly sharp images with no geometric distortions, the image is constant, not constantly flashing, which is much easier on the eyes and they hold their calibrations better than CRT. Yes, there are some diehard CRT users, just as there are some diehard film users, but its an ever declining population.
Do some research, I bet many of your favourite professional photographers use LCD's, then again maybe they're just half blind.
Really awesome response. Besides the fact that you prove nothing, you're right on target.
Explain to me how its "tailored more toward graphic designers than any other computer in Apple's product line." Costing less does not mean its tailored for graphic designers.
The base mac pro is more powerfull than the base Imac. Don't compare apples and oranges.
Last I checked, you don't need to buy an apple monitor in order to use the tower.
Yeah, what I wrote was stupid though.
But he wasn't talking about the base iMac. He was talking about the quad cores and for the first time ever the top end iMac is actually quite comparable to the base Mac Pro.
"iMacs are for home users." ???
Stupid might be a little strong. But it was inaccurate.
Sarcasm is totally awesome!
I'm sorry that you feel the 27" iMac is inappropriate for professional graphic designers, but many many people feel it is. Hell, many design studios use previous generation iMacs and with those, you'd have a much stronger argument against. Most of the reviews I've read about the new iMacs say things like it's "ideal for graphic design" and "finally an iMac for graphic designers", and I tend to agree.
As SaSaSushi said, its VERY comparable to the base MacPro, so why WOULDN'T I compare it to it?
Obviously a base iMac is aimed at home users primarily, but I fail to see how an iMac with specs practically identical to a base MacPro (which, as you say, is made for professionals) wouldn't be appropriate for professionals as well.
Feeble, repetitive discussion. Nothing different here to the last argument about glossy versus matte. Or the one before that. Or the previous one. Same stuff all over again.
Can't be bothered to look up the many older threads on the same topic, but I'd wager most of the participants and views are the same as before.
It's as interesting as the fiftieth discussion about whether Spearmint chewing gum is better than Doublemint.
Can't be bothered to look up the many older threads on the same topic, but I'd wager most of the participants and views are the same as before.
It's as interesting as the fiftieth discussion about whether Spearmint chewing gum is better than Doublemint.
As is often the case in these threads there is topic drift and sometimes the discussion veers far off the initial subject. For example, from another whinge about no matte displays to the current debate about the "pro" capabilities of the current iMac line.
I wasn't aware, however, that his highness, Sir Cecil was not in approval of this thread's content. My deepest apologies for my part, m'Lord.
Sir SaSaSushi
a pro photographer? what do you do about lens glare and light seeping into your glass lens?
well do whatever you do for that, for your display.
ive had no issues with the glossy/glass displays. they actually make things look much much more rich and let me produce better quality prints.
matte is just too washed out for a good deep color print and editing.
well do whatever you do for that, for your display.
ive had no issues with the glossy/glass displays. they actually make things look much much more rich and let me produce better quality prints.
matte is just too washed out for a good deep color print and editing.
if you're seriously into your graphic design or photo editing (or a professional), why not get a shield for your monitor that stops light hitting it? don't know if you can get them for the 27" imac specifically yet.
something like this
+1
My prints match my monitor perfectly since switching to a glossy monitor. I use a screen shield and what I see on my 24inch ACD is exactly what comes out of my printer.
I prefer glossy screen to a matte screen for photo work any day. No offense to the OP but I think most people have never tried glossy screens with a shield and just assume its bad for photo editing.
Wow, for a photographer, you sound like you've working in a very light room.
Why not try to look around you and try to fix the way things are maybe?
Dim the lights when you edit, it won't only reflect less, it'll also stand out more in the room.
Or don't put your iMac on the exact opposite side as a window, so during the day you can see stuff.
Why not try to look around you and try to fix the way things are maybe?
Dim the lights when you edit, it won't only reflect less, it'll also stand out more in the room.
Or don't put your iMac on the exact opposite side as a window, so during the day you can see stuff.
i like glossy screen, they are very sharp when looking at movies and picture.
i like sharp.
apple is unique in their high quality screen with glossy surface.
yes, they will gain more buyers if they gave a choice, but they will increase manufacturing cost. basically a decision by apple management, if no one buy because of glossy screen, the management will change.
but the fact is that it is massively popular. they are unable to build fast enough for demand.
no chance in this high demand situation, that they will make non glossy screen.
i like sharp.
apple is unique in their high quality screen with glossy surface.
yes, they will gain more buyers if they gave a choice, but they will increase manufacturing cost. basically a decision by apple management, if no one buy because of glossy screen, the management will change.
but the fact is that it is massively popular. they are unable to build fast enough for demand.
no chance in this high demand situation, that they will make non glossy screen.
with a worldwide marketshare of < 5% for ALL Mac computers I don't think that pure demand is the issue..
You stated something as near fact (actually it read as a fact but I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt)...When you state something as fact don't be the least bit surprised when some jackass comes behind you and asks you to qualify that. Chapter 10.
Ok...
Right...
Damnit.
AppleMatt
if you're seriously into your graphic design or photo editing (or a professional), why not get a shield for your monitor that stops light hitting it? don't know if you can get them for the 27" imac specifically yet.
something like this
No offence but i wouldn't use an iMac that resembled this:
