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Not in a multimedia machine. The only way an SSD option would work is an add-on that doesn't replace anything, which is how its done in the Xserve.

I'm surprised HD manufacturers aren't offering a ~1TB hard drive with an SSD integrated into the drive's controller board.


And its the next 5-10 years too.

Unless you don't mind paying $3500 for an equivalent 1TB SSD, hard drives are not going anywhere for the next few years.

Price will come down with greater numbers. I agree to disagree. I've seen the future, near and far. I remain convinced the faster the SSD is adopted the better off we will be.
 

Cockroach

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Oct 5, 2006
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SSDs don't have the pins on the back to connect with temperature cable like regular HDD

how did you guys manage to install the SSD then ?

when the wire is not connected, fans are going crazy...

temperature control over the HDD cannot be turned off by software that's why apple used the cable...

As per the first post, I intend on shorting the connector.
 

Gaijin de Moscu

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Geneva

sanjuvarma

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Only if you break something in the process.

Ok so if you don't break anything and have a clean installation/upgrade, and then anytime in the future if your iMac gives a problem that you have to take it to the nearest store and you're under your first year warranty or on APP, they'll notice that your HDD is been upgraded. If your current problem is that SSD related, or not, I doubt if they'll like it that you upgraded this yourself or using any other non-Apple certified technician. Will this situation void your warranty then?
 

300D

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I doubt if they'll like it that you upgraded this yourself or using any other non-Apple certified technician. Will this situation void your warranty then?

A manufacturer cannot legally void a warranty based solely on the presence of user modifications.
If you break something in the process or the modification is the cause of the failure, then they can deny it.
 

sanjuvarma

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iMac 27" Boot time in 21 Seconds

Can anyone post in their XBench results of a similar system or their iMacs with SSD. I wonder if these are comparable results with other systems with the Intel X25-M G2 160GB ....

System Info
Xbench Version 1.3
System Version 10.6.2 (10C2234)
Physical RAM 8192 MB
Model iMac11,1

Stock Seagate 1TB - ST31000528ASQ
Overall Results = 202.69
Disk Test 65.57

Sequential 186.91
Uncached Write 188.29 115.61 MB/sec [4K blocks]
Uncached Write 183.75 103.97 MB/sec [256K blocks]
Uncached Read 158.04 46.25 MB/sec [4K blocks]
Uncached Read 231.52 116.36 MB/sec [256K blocks]
Random 39.76
Uncached Write 11.99 1.27 MB/sec [4K blocks]
Uncached Write 295.28 94.53 MB/sec [256K blocks]
Uncached Read 115.70 0.82 MB/sec [4K blocks]
Uncached Read 192.00 35.63 MB/sec [256K blocks]

After Upgrade .....
Intel X25-M G2
Overall Results = 296.00
Disk Test 302.49

Sequential 198.51
Uncached Write 164.68 101.11 MB/sec [4K blocks]
Uncached Write 158.41 89.63 MB/sec [256K blocks]
Uncached Read 190.96 55.89 MB/sec [4K blocks]
Uncached Read 395.52 198.78 MB/sec [256K blocks]
Random 635.17
Uncached Write 660.48 69.92 MB/sec [4K blocks]
Uncached Write 300.99 96.36 MB/sec [256K blocks]
Uncached Read 2433.00 17.24 MB/sec [4K blocks]
Uncached Read 952.26 176.70 MB/sec [256K blocks]
 

NATO

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Ah good job, I see you got your Intel X25-M installed. Did you find your iMac easy enough to open up and re-assemble? Did the wire trick work okay for you?

My i7 iMac will be here today so I'm planning on getting mine installed this evening. I had the C2D 27" iMac before so it'll be a simple job, I'll try to take a few pictures this time!

Out of curiosity, what mounting bracket did you use and was it a perfect fit in the iMac's HDD bay?
 

sanjuvarma

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Ah good job, I see you got your Intel X25-M installed. Did you find your iMac easy enough to open up and re-assemble? Did the wire trick work okay for you?

My i7 iMac will be here today so I'm planning on getting mine installed this evening. I had the C2D 27" iMac before so it'll be a simple job, I'll try to take a few pictures this time!

Out of curiosity, what mounting bracket did you use and was it a perfect fit in the iMac's HDD bay?

1. Open the iMac very carefully. Trust me, the balancing of the 27" LED screen is pretty important

2. Torx 8 is good

3. This is enough -- http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002EJI6CO/ref=ox_ya_oh_product --- for the bracket

4. Use the old iMac 24" temp sensor wire which doesn't need shorting, and leave it alone.

5. Use iStats widget to monitor your HDD temps.

6. Intel X25 is the BEST. Although, my OCZ Vertex on the MBP 2009 performs great too. I just don't have much on my new iMac 27 to compare the Intel X25 with.

7. Booting up in 20 seconds .. come on!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

TechViking

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Mar 3, 2009
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Can anyone post in their XBench results of a similar system or their iMacs with SSD. I wonder if these are comparable results with other systems with the Intel X25-M G2 160GB ....

sanjuvarma,

Can you comment on the noise level after installed the SSD compared to before?

I am considering getting the i7 imac and replace the HD with the X25-M G2 aswell.

Does the iMac now produce any noticable noise at all, 1) when idle and 2) when doing heavy processing?

Thanks.
 

sanjuvarma

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Nov 11, 2009
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sanjuvarma,

Can you comment on the noise level after installed the SSD compared to before?

I am considering getting the i7 imac and replace the HD with the X25-M G2 aswell.

Does the iMac now produce any noticable noise at all, 1) when idle and 2) when doing heavy processing?

Thanks.

Yes noticeably quieter than a HDD running in the iMac. And a tad cooler as well. I was ripping a 3-4 DVDs to MKVs the other night, using Handbrake, and the CPU Fan started blowing faster - around 1800 RPM noticed on iStat widget and there was a bit of noise. But when the ripping was over, the fan speeds returned to normal which is less than 1000 RPM and all qas quiet again.

But SSDs don't make noise, nor dissipate as much heat as HDDs. What you should be more concerned is the need for speed!!!
 

MesMaker

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Nov 16, 2009
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Sound like you were able to avoid shorting hack with an extra part... Have a part number for that sensor and cable? And/Or picture?
And awesome call on this one...
 

TechViking

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Mar 3, 2009
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Yes noticeably quieter than a HDD running in the iMac. And a tad cooler as well. I was ripping a 3-4 DVDs to MKVs the other night, using Handbrake, and the CPU Fan started blowing faster - around 1800 RPM noticed on iStat widget and there was a bit of noise. But when the ripping was over, the fan speeds returned to normal which is less than 1000 RPM and all qas quiet again.

But SSDs don't make noise, nor dissipate as much heat as HDDs. What you should be more concerned is the need for speed!!!

Thanks. I have two X25-M already, and while the speed increase is nice, for me the biggest advantage over a HDD is it's silent operation. Cant use a noisy computer.
 

i7QuadCoreMania

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Nov 10, 2009
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1. Open the iMac very carefully. Trust me, the balancing of the 27" LED screen is pretty important

4. Use the old iMac 24" temp sensor wire which doesn't need shorting, and leave it alone.

Can you elaborate on what you mean by # 4? Ive had a 24" imac and know that there is a thermistor type sensor attached a plastic clip that is stuck on by adhesive to the underside of the HDD.

So you're saying we can use that same sensor wire on our new drives? do you happen to take any pics? thx.

Also I have a question for those who have taken of the front glass. It seems that on these models you need to pull off from the top the magnets and pivot it out??? the ifixit pictures where unclear. the old 24" units you pulled the glass straight out.
 

sanjuvarma

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Nov 11, 2009
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Can you elaborate on what you mean by # 4? Ive had a 24" imac and know that there is a thermistor type sensor attached a plastic clip that is stuck on by adhesive to the underside of the HDD.

So you're saying we can use that same sensor wire on our new drives? do you happen to take any pics? thx.

Also I have a question for those who have taken of the front glass. It seems that on these models you need to pull off from the top the magnets and pivot it out??? the ifixit pictures where unclear. the old 24" units you pulled the glass straight out.

Sorry, I didn't take pics. The older iMac's wire can be attached to the SSD so thats what I did. The guy at Tekserve told me to, and he sold me the wire for $10 so thats what I did.
 

NATO

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Here's a pic of my finished Intel X25-M installation, I just shorted the temperature sensor wire, the fan runs at 1200RPM which is absolutely fine for an SSD.

To answer the above question, yeah you need to pull the glass away from the top about 30-45 degrees then lift it upwards as there are tabs at the bottom which keep it held at the bottom. There's no force required when lifting the glass away, the only force required is to lift the glass away from the magnets initially.

intel_ssd.jpg
 
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